+ oldNbusted Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 I've been using this online tool to see how much carbs/fat/protein are in the stuff I eat. It also breaks out sugar. Although it says recipe and I mostly eat food I make from scratch, there are a lot of prepared and restaurant foods in the database. You don't have to have an account just to enter a list of stuff and get the digits. It helped me adjust a few things I was eating just a little bit too much of... https://www.myfitnesspal.com/recipe/calculator
thickornotatall Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 I followed the diet in Sugar Busters and lost 20 lbs. I also began walking 8 miles a day...I now weigh the same as I did in high school.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sugar-Busters-Cut-Trim-Fat/dp/0964814900/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EQ6DNZKP5PXECR2G44RR MikeBiDude 1
MikeBiDude Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) I followed the diet in Sugar Busters and lost 20 lbs. I also began walking 8 miles a day...I now weigh the same as I did in high school.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sugar-Busters-Cut-Trim-Fat/dp/0964814900/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=EQ6DNZKP5PXECR2G44RR I lost about 45# once on Sugar Busters. Ironically I was just talking to some friends about it today. I always called it a “superset” of a sort of Atkins...or nowadays “Keto”. I’m a big believer in what works for one person doesn’t always work for another. The no sugar, low carb worked for me...I always had lots of energy too. Edited May 2, 2019 by MikeBiDude + oldNbusted 1
+ MasssageGuy Posted May 2, 2019 Author Posted May 2, 2019 I've gone from a 36" waist to a 30" waist since eliminating all added sugar and switching to a plant based, whole food diet. I am also down to same weight as in high school. marylander1940 and bendable2019 2
+ oldNbusted Posted May 2, 2019 Posted May 2, 2019 I’m a big believer in what works for one person doesn’t always work for another. I believe this is key. It's why when people ask me what I do, I spend a lot time talking about how I didn't adopt any existing plan, I did a lot of research (and still do), identified useful tools, and made changes slowly, so as to avoid bad reactions that can happen from abrupt changes, and to see what fit me. Whatever strategy one develops, adherence is key. To underscore this, a couple of people I had shared with took time to find a custom strategy that worked for them and have seen lasting results, while one person didn't and not too surprisingly, hasn't seen any changes. + MasssageGuy 1
+ oldNbusted Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 As an example, here is a horrible story about an alleged professional imposing her own bias onto a person who had found a strategy that worked to help her cope with what could possibly be an eating disorder. For 3 Weeks, I Gave Up Intermittent Fasting For Intuitive Eating and Here's Why I Hated It My point is not to advocate for or against any of the strategies mentioned in the article, but to point out that, as the story is told, it really appears the nutritionist allowed her apparent personal dislike for IF to advocate a one size fits all strategy to someone it is clearly not appropriate for and most significantly, that person allowed her life to be totally destabilized. I think the hilarious part is everyone was so clueless about this, the nutritionist's name is used in the article. I think she's lucky the end of the story is not getting a complaint filed against her. My advice? Do your own research and develop a strategy that works for you. If someone tells you something, don't hesitate to ask them to show you recent research that supports their point. If all they do is point to the string of letters after their name, walk away.
+ tassojunior Posted May 4, 2019 Posted May 4, 2019 I've been trying the green smoothy thing a lot with mixed results. Spinach, carrot juice, pineapple, chocolate protein, ginger, cinnamon, etc. Not losing much weight but my fingernails are growing like crazy.
Montyd Posted May 11, 2019 Posted May 11, 2019 Yes, I have changed my eating habits drastically since being diagnosed as diabetic. After cutting out sugar, processed foods and high sugar content fruits my blood sugars are within normal range and of course I’ve lost a huge amount of weight. + MasssageGuy and + oldNbusted 2
+ oldNbusted Posted May 18, 2019 Posted May 18, 2019 Processed foods lead to weight gain, but it's about more than calories This was surprising to me: ...ultra-processed foods make up a staggering 57.9% of energy intake in the United States. When I go shopping, I frequently notice families with kids with tons of ultra processed food in the cart. I was telling myself this was just anecdotal. Perhaps not...
+ MasssageGuy Posted June 12, 2019 Author Posted June 12, 2019 Another nail in the Sugar and Processed Food coffin... Processed foods are a much bigger health problem than we thought They’ve been linked to disease and overeating. Could our microbiome explain why? https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/6/11/18652653/diet-weight-loss-ultra-processed-foods-microbiome + oldNbusted 1
bendable2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Recently, I've been watching lots of documentaries on Amazon Prime about the food we are consuming. Frankly, we are killing ourselves with the processed food we are consuming. Just look around at the epidemic of obesity, diabetes, heart disease. Anyone else come to a realization that each of us needs to change our dietary habits? So true... thanks for sharing + MasssageGuy 1
Boink Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-soda-industry-quashes-bills-20190703-story.html
+ MasssageGuy Posted July 4, 2019 Author Posted July 4, 2019 Same tactics that tobacco industry used. Corporate greed over public health. It will be our undoing as health care costs will bankrupt us and many people will die.
BSR Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-soda-industry-quashes-bills-20190703-story.html I stopped drinking fruit juices for the same reason I stopped drinking soda. A glass of fruit juice can have as much if not more sugar than soda. Don't kid yourself that fruit juices are healthy just because they're a natural sugar. Besides, a paleo dieter will tell you that there is nothing "natural" about the fruit we eat today. Modern apples, oranges, plums, etc. have been so selectively bred that they are nothing like their progenitors, which were much smaller and had far lower amounts of fructose.
mike carey Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 I stopped drinking fruit juices for the same reason I stopped drinking soda. A glass of fruit juice can have as much if not more sugar than soda. Don't kid yourself that fruit juices are healthy just because they're a natural sugar. Besides, a paleo dieter will tell you that there is nothing "natural" about the fruit we eat today. Modern apples, oranges, plums, etc. have been so selectively bred that they are nothing like their progenitors, which were much smaller and had far lower amounts of fructose. Agree, if you're going to drink fruit juice at least drink one that has 'pulp' in it, or juice your own fruit and eat the pulp separately. (Better still juice vegetables and incorporate the pulp in your cooking.) I wouldn't stress about modern varieties of fruit, they are bigger and have more fructose but they have more fibre-bearing flesh too. MikeBiDude 1
bendable2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Very informative and sugar is such sweet sorrow + MasssageGuy 1
+ EVdude Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 Interesting thread... I was all excited about seeing the impact on my cholesterol after not eating meat for 6 months. My doc called... yes the cholesterol is down (considerably) but my sugars more than quadrupled. I apparently over compensated eating too much fruit. Cut back on the grapes and mangoes which I love!
Walker1 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 Interesting thread... I was all excited about seeing the impact on my cholesterol after not eating meat for 6 months. My doc called... yes the cholesterol is down (considerably) but my sugars more than quadrupled. I apparently over compensated eating too much fruit. Cut back on the grapes and mangoes which I love! Interesting. I have read conflicting info on fruits. Apparently berries, apples etc are considered good-in moderation of course.
+ EVdude Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 Processed sugar is very bad, but if you’re addicted to fruit like me... Teaspoons of sugar in 85 grams of fruit Grapes 3.54 (10-15 grapes) Mangoes 3.1 Cherries 2.7 Bananas 2.5 Kiwi 2.3 Tangerine 2.25 Apples 2.20 Pears 2.10 Blueberries 2.1 Oranges 2.0 Peaches 1.8 Nectarine 1.6 Grapefruit 1.4 Watermelon 1.3 Papaya 1.25 Avocado 1.0 Strawberries 1.0 + pitman and liubit 2
Walker1 Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 Processed sugar is very bad, but if you’re addicted to fruit like me... Teaspoons of sugar in 85 grams of fruit Grapes 3.54 (10-15 grapes) Mangoes 3.1 Cherries 2.7 Bananas 2.5 Kiwi 2.3 Tangerine 2.25 Apples 2.20 Pears 2.10 Blueberries 2.1 Oranges 2.0 Peaches 1.8 Nectarine 1.6 Grapefruit 1.4 Watermelon 1.3 Papaya 1.25 Avocado 1.0 Strawberries 1.0 From what I read-and this is the interwebz-this sugar is different than just plain sugar. Because fruit has fiber also and so processes differently-if eaten whole? But in your case you said sugar level quadrapuled -did you eat whoe fruit or just juice/smoothie.
Rudynate Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 I think it's probably true that ingesting sugar in the form of fresh fruit is qualitatively different from eating processed sugar. That doesn't mean it's a "free" food, like green vegetables. My partner loves fresh fruit and easily goes overboard with it. When this happens, he invariably starts to develop a gut, and wonders "why?" I always remind him that he can't eat unlimited quantities of fresh fruit, no matter how good for you it is supposed to be. When he dials it back, the gut disappears very quickly.
+ EVdude Posted July 10, 2019 Posted July 10, 2019 From what I read-and this is the interwebz-this sugar is different than just plain sugar. Because fruit has fiber also and so processes differently-if eaten whole? But in your case you said sugar level quadrapuled -did you eat whoe fruit or just juice/smoothie. Good question... I’ve always been conscious of processed sugar intake but I eat a lot of fruit both whole and juiced. On the juicing front, I make my own from fresh fruit and only add water. I never thought about the possibility of juice having a different impact. Worth some research!
+ MasssageGuy Posted August 6, 2019 Author Posted August 6, 2019 Evidence for sugar addiction: Behavioral and neurochemical effects of intermittent, excessive sugar intake Very interesting and well done study. Harkens to the days of tobacco. I'm sure the food conglomerates will squash these types of findings. "Food is not ordinarily like a substance of abuse, but intermittent bingeing and deprivation changes that. Based on the observed behavioral and neurochemical similarities between the effects of intermittent sugar access and drugs of abuse, we suggest that sugar, as common as it is, nonetheless meets the criteria for a substance of abuse and may be “addictive” for some individuals when consumed in a “binge-like” manner. This conclusion is reinforced by the changes in limbic system neurochemistry that are similar for the drugs and for sugar. The effects we observe are smaller in magnitude than those produced by drug of abuse such as cocaine or morphine; however, the fact that these behaviors and neurochemical changes can be elicited with a natural reinforcer is interesting. " https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2235907/
JayCeeKy Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 Anybody else a big fan of Pinterest? I have a great interest in Civil War photos and came across on Pinterest the photo below of a Civil War soldier who died 157 years ago - before the advent of the large Slurpee and sugar-laden snacks. Notice how decay-free this gentleman's teeth appear to be ( though I can't see his front teeth from the photo)? Halloween is coming soon- the celebration of King Sugar. Or, the 500-year-old Buddhist monk's mummy found in a monastery high up in the Himalayas: http://www.freshtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/momia-1.jpg
LivingnLA Posted September 30, 2019 Posted September 30, 2019 It's not only the sugar. It's more about how we consume it. Controlling sugar intake provides many health benefits, but it's how sugar is consumed that's a major driver of tooth decay. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-sugar-destroys-teeth JayCeeKy 1
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