More frequently being asked for my picture and tiered pricing for VGL

[Wolfer]

It's happening more and more now that either it states in the provider's profile that the client has to (yes, has to) send a face picture or that they've asked me for one after we work out the details to our meeting.

 

I always had my doubts about this but would still send one. Lately though I've begun refusing to send it because, frankly, my recent experience where I was asked for a picture beforehand the session was really, really bad.

 

Just today a provider asked me for a face picture when I asked to confirm the date. I told him that I don't send them and he asked why. I told him because of recent bad experiences and also the reason I hire escorts is not to be judged on my appearance. He told me: "Okay, if you absolutely don't want to." And then asked me for my age and became quite curt in his replies.

 

The provider by the way told me that he likes to have a sense of who he can expect to show up but I got the feeling he has certain limits/preferences as to what type of client he'll engage with.

 

Well, I did confirm for tonight. Hope I made the right choice. Send me some good vibes, y'all. Thanks!

Although now I'm thinking of cancelling since it isn't sitting well with me. What do you guys think?

 

But another profile really made me do a double take:

This guy had multi-tiered pricing based on the client's age. For example: up to 20 years old he asks 40 dollars and so on (the older, the higher the price).

I was a bit turned off by this...

Edited October 10, 2018 by Wolfer

[+ 7829V]

In restaurants the older the lower the price. With their seniors menu. Also in real estate with the 55+ communities are less expensive.

 

Why can’t escorts be like this?

[+ Keith30309]

......He told me: "Okay, if you absolutely don't want to." And then asked me for my age and became quite curt in his replies.....

At this point I end the discussion - be it regarding a photo or anything else. My experience is that once a vibe of mutual respect and warmth disappears that it's hard to pull it out of the ditch.

 

I feel the same way about being appearance being judged though I put pics in my RM profile in Private. I don't mind sharing them if a meeting has been agreed upon but don't based on a casual inquiry.

Surprisingly I'm rarely asked to unlock them. Occasionally someone I've not contacted will request them, which is weird.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This is not the norm.

 

This remains the exception. Just keep that in mind.

[+ purplekow]

In restaurants the older the lower the price. With their seniors menu. Also in real estate with the 55+ communities are less expensive.

 

Why can’t escorts be like this?

Any escort or any provider may institute a pricing schedule based on age. Blowback should be expected. If they do not care about the blowback by all means continue.

Your examples were hardly equivalent. 55+ Communities are not less expensive in general but they are designed for seniors.

I have never seen a senior menu though I have heard of an early bird special which caters to seniors during the non peak hours in order to try to increase business from a group that might not otherwise be going out to dinner at 4PM.

I suppose for $40 bucks for teenagers, you might increase business from a group which does not usually hire but then again they would be out looking for the ad so that already shows at least a passing interest.

[marylander1940]

It's happening more and more now that either it states in the provider's profile that the client has to (yes, has to) send a face picture or that they've asked me for one after we work out the details to our meeting.

 

I always had my doubts about this but would still send one. Lately though I've begun refusing to send it because, frankly, my recent experience where I was asked for a picture beforehand the session was really, really bad.

 

Just today a provider asked me for a face picture when I asked to confirm the date. I told him that I don't send them and he asked why. I told him because of recent bad experiences and also the reason I hire escorts is not to be judged on my appearance. He told me: "Okay, if you absolutely don't want to." And then asked me for my age and became quite curt in his replies.

 

The provider by the way told me that he likes to have a sense of who he can expect to show up but I got the feeling he has certain limits/preferences as to what type of client he'll engage with.

 

Well, I did confirm for tonight. Hope I made the right choice. Send me some good vibes, y'all. Thanks!

Although now I'm thinking of cancelling since it isn't sitting well with me. What do you guys think?

 

But another profile really made me do a double take:

This guy had multi-tiered pricing based on the client's age. For example: up to 20 years old he asks 40 dollars and so on (the older, the higher the price).

I was a bit turned off by this...

 

Unfortunately some clients lie about their age when or if they describe themselves to an escort, crazy!

 

One more thing an NYC escort once told me that on a trip to Texas instead of charging 250 per hour he should have charged 1 dollar per pound and made a lot more money. He had several 300 pounders showing up to see him

 

Any escort or any provider may institute a pricing schedule based on age. Blowback should be expected. If they do not care about the blowback by all means continue.

Your examples were hardly equivalent. 55+ Communities are not less expensive in general but they are designed for seniors.

I have never seen a senior menu though I have heard of an early bird special which caters to seniors during the non peak hours in order to try to increase business from a group that might not otherwise be going out to dinner at 4PM.

I suppose for $40 bucks for teenagers, you might increase business from a group which does not usually hire but then again they would be out looking for the ad so that already shows at least a passing interest.

 

Is not a matter of age but also a matter of size... also I know escorts to who travel to San Jose (Silicon Valley) and they get a lot of young clients who are Asian or SE Asian and apparently they don't do as well on Grindr and because of that they have to pay.

[+ José Soplanucas]

If you do not like his business model, just move on. There is an abundant offer.

 

Part of the deal the guys may want to make with VGL clients is to film for their justfor/only fans accounts. They can make up for the discount through that extra income pipe line.

[+ purplekow]

Unfortunately some clients lie about their age when or if they describe themselves to an escort, crazy!

 

One more thing an NYC escort once told me that on a trip to Texas instead of charging 250 per hour he should have charged 1 dollar per pound and made a lot more money. He had several 300 pounders showing up to see him

 

 

It is hard to say who is the bigger asshole here, the escort for saying it or you for repeating it. I go with you for repeating it.

Why don't you post a poll and see.

[marylander1940]

It is hard to say who is the bigger asshole here, the escort for saying it or you for repeating it. I go with you for repeating it.

Why don't you post a poll and see.

 

Polls are no longer allowed on the forum, not even on the politics section.

 

Some escorts just can't handle certain kind of clients.

 

There was an Annapolis escort who displayed on his headline "no blacks". I thought it was racist but many on here defended his preference not to see black clients because as a gay man he wasn't attracted to them and therefore unable to deliver a good experience. I still think he was racist!

 

Most escorts perform with all kind of clients, some don't.

 

I'm sorry if my post bothers you but you could have replied using other words to express your discontent.

 

Edit: the subject of obesity (healthcare) has been raised on here multiple times.

Edited October 10, 2018 by marylander1940

[adventurous old guy]

Part of the deal the guys may want to make with VGL clients is to film for their justfor/only fans accounts. They can make up for the discount through that extra income pipe line.

Wow, who knew? This never occurred to me...

[Wolfer]

There is an abundant offer.

Sadly not where I live. Were you referring to the tiered provider or the one asking for a picture? Because I never contacted the former, just the latter.

 

At this point I end the discussion - be it regarding a photo or anything else. My experience is that once a vibe of mutual respect and warmth disappears that it's hard to pull it out of the ditch.

I ultimately ended up cancelling our appointment because I did start to feel like that vibe had not only subdued but had completely disappeared, from my side as well.

 

This is not the norm.

 

This remains the exception. Just keep that in mind.

I certainly hope so, though it's been popping up more frequently lately.

[adventurous old guy]

It's happening more and more now that either it states in the provider's profile that the client has to (yes, has to) send a face picture or that they've asked me for one after we work out the details to our meeting.

 

I always had my doubts about this but would still send one. Lately though I've begun refusing to send it because, frankly, my recent experience where I was asked for a picture beforehand the session was really, really bad.

 

Just today a provider asked me for a face picture when I asked to confirm the date. I told him that I don't send them and he asked why. I told him because of recent bad experiences and also the reason I hire escorts is not to be judged on my appearance. He told me: "Okay, if you absolutely don't want to." And then asked me for my age and became quite curt in his replies.

 

The provider by the way told me that he likes to have a sense of who he can expect to show up but I got the feeling he has certain limits/preferences as to what type of client he'll engage with.

 

Well, I did confirm for tonight. Hope I made the right choice. Send me some good vibes, y'all. Thanks!

Although now I'm thinking of cancelling since it isn't sitting well with me. What do you guys think?

 

But another profile really made me do a double take:

This guy had multi-tiered pricing based on the client's age. For example: up to 20 years old he asks 40 dollars and so on (the older, the higher the price).

I was a bit turned off by this...

I'd actually have given the guy who likes a pic to get a sense of his client the benefit of the doubt. He articulated a rationale for the request. Same thing with request for age. From the client's POV, I like being vetted like that because it evens out expectations before the door opens. Plus, there are some really decent providers out there who understand and get into the fact that they bring value to older, heavier, shyer, closeted, less hung, more insecure or whatever guys who still need sex, companionship, adventure or whatever. Those are the providers I'm looking for and the questions he asked help both sides find win/win in my view.

[Gymowner]

sounds like a young horny gay escort. the hotter and younger you are the closer to a hook up this is for him and he still makes a few bucks. saves him from scruff or the bathhouse.

 

may not be the norm but do not think for a minute that gay escorts that have a natural attraction for men are not doing this in their minds when they are meeting with a muscled 20 something year old vs a 65 year old senior.

 

on the flip side of this, my regular stud that just moved told me over and over he would get texts from trannies trying to set up a meeting. when it got down to the time and date he would tell them his rate for the session. everyone of them he stated would say "what...you want to charge me for this? i get this from other straight escorts for free". so it goes both ways

Edited October 10, 2018 by Gymowner

[+ tassojunior]

I have no idea why but many escorts I know or know of here and in Europe do not like Asian clients. I never ask why because it's a subject I'd rather drop.

 

I do know that personal hygiene of clients is most escorts' main concern.

Edited October 10, 2018 by tassojunior

[+ Gar1eth]

I have never seen a senior menu though I have heard of an early bird special which caters to seniors during the non peak hours in order to try to increase business from a group that might not otherwise be going out to dinner at 4PM.

 

Possibly the reasons why you haven't seen labeled Senior Menus is that you go to more expensive restaurants or maybe the area of the country you live in. Chain restaurants like Denny's or IHOP have Senior Menus. Cafeterias frequently have a Senior Plate of some type too although Luby's, probably to get away from calling it a Senior Plate, calls it a Lou Ann Plate As a point of information, at my former IHOP in the city of Seatac, Wa, you could get a Senior Discount on the bill even without ordering off the Senior Menu.

 

Gman

[Milo Farnsworth]

Whatever happened to, 'He who has the money makes the rules?'

[caliguy]

It's happening more and more now that either it states in the provider's profile that the client has to (yes, has to) send a face picture or that they've asked me for one after we work out the details to our meeting.

 

I always had my doubts about this but would still send one. Lately though I've begun refusing to send it because, frankly, my recent experience where I was asked for a picture beforehand the session was really, really bad.

 

Just today a provider asked me for a face picture when I asked to confirm the date. I told him that I don't send them and he asked why. I told him because of recent bad experiences and also the reason I hire escorts is not to be judged on my appearance. He told me: "Okay, if you absolutely don't want to." And then asked me for my age and became quite curt in his replies.

 

The provider by the way told me that he likes to have a sense of who he can expect to show up but I got the feeling he has certain limits/preferences as to what type of client he'll engage with.

 

Well, I did confirm for tonight. Hope I made the right choice. Send me some good vibes, y'all. Thanks!

Although now I'm thinking of cancelling since it isn't sitting well with me. What do you guys think?

 

But another profile really made me do a double take:

This guy had multi-tiered pricing based on the client's age. For example: up to 20 years old he asks 40 dollars and so on (the older, the higher the price).

I was a bit turned off by this...

Nothing wrong with the guy wanting info about you. He wants some chemistry. Not everyone can sleep with someone that's your grandpa's age or someone that's grossly obese. Although, he could've just asked you to describe yourself instead of demanding it like that. The other one with the tiered pricing structure makes me laugh. You just know he's really hot to be that much of a douchebag.

[adventurous old guy]

Whatever happened to, 'He who has the money makes the rules?'

Still applies, but in and of itself does not get you the best experience. If I'm looking for an experience that's more than going through the motions, there's more to it.

[caliguy]

This is not the norm.

 

This remains the exception. Just keep that in mind.

Asking for details about your hook up is not rare and should be the norm. I prefer they know about me. I don't want someone where I discust them but they go ahead with it anyways like it's some assembly line.

[Wolfer]

Asking for details about your hook up is not rare and should be the norm. I prefer they know about me. I don't want someone where I discust them but they go ahead with it anyways like it's some assembly line.

In my experience the very best escort dates have been with those providers who asked nothing about my appearance. If they did ask something about me it was what I was into and what I liked to do in the bedroom.

In contrast every single time an escort asked me for pictures or stats it was either an underwhelming or downright bad experience.

It could be coincidence, but it's happened enough times now to raise a big red flag whenever I'm asked to send a picture.

 

In a regular hookup I totally agree since men are visual. But when I'm hiring I'm looking specifically to not be judged based on my appearance. It defeats the purpose of hiring for me. Might as well go on Grindr and be ignored for free.

 

But yes, not every provider probably can get into it with every type of client. If that is the case, it probably is better for the provider to ask for a picture and base his decision on that. But from my side, it's a pass from now on.

[Chuckball]

I was once with an escort that I had selected from Rentmen because his photos were very appealing. As we were getting ready to bed down. I asked how he could be so agreeable not really knowing who he was about to go to bed with. His response is that he had an ability to find something beautiful and sexy in all his clients. I thought that was a most professional answer and it went a long way to ensuring our first encounter was entirely satisfying.

[marylander1940]

I was once with an escort that I had selected from Rentmen because his photos were very appealing. As we were getting ready to bed down. I asked how he could be so agreeable not really knowing who he was about to go to bed with. His response is that he had an ability to find something beautiful and sexy in all his clients. I thought that was a most professional answer and it went a long way to ensuring our first encounter was entirely satisfying.

 

That's why I only hire gay men, I don't hire gay-per-pay guys real or fake.

[caliguy]

In my experience the very best escort dates have been with those providers who asked nothing about my appearance. If they did ask something about me it was what I was into and what I liked to do in the bedroom.

In contrast every single time an escort asked me for pictures or stats it was either an underwhelming or downright bad experience.

It could be coincidence, but it's happened enough times now to raise a big red flag whenever I'm asked to send a picture.

 

In a regular hookup I totally agree since men are visual. But when I'm hiring I'm looking specifically to not be judged based on my appearance. It defeats the purpose of hiring for me. Might as well go on Grindr and be ignored for free.

 

But yes, not every provider probably can get into it with every type of client. If that is the case, it probably is better for the provider to ask for a picture and base his decision on that. But from my side, it's a pass from now on.

There are ways to get info without being rude. Tell me something about yourself, what's your 411, etc. If they're demanding pics then it's what Gymowner says and they're most likely just young and inexperienced.

 

Lastly, you're still going through with it so it can't be that big of a nuisance.

[adventurous old guy]

In my experience the very best escort dates have been with those providers who asked nothing about my appearance. If they did ask something about me it was what I was into and what I liked to do in the bedroom.

In contrast every single time an escort asked me for pictures or stats it was either an underwhelming or downright bad experience.

It could be coincidence, but it's happened enough times now to raise a big red flag whenever I'm asked to send a picture.

 

In a regular hookup I totally agree since men are visual. But when I'm hiring I'm looking specifically to not be judged based on my appearance. It defeats the purpose of hiring for me. Might as well go on Grindr and be ignored for free.

 

But yes, not every provider probably can get into it with every type of client. If that is the case, it probably is better for the provider to ask for a picture and base his decision on that. But from my side, it's a pass from now on.

Hmm, I hear you. I wonder if when you get the question, saying just what you said here -- When I hire I don't want to judged on my appearance, it defeats my purpose -- would have the same vetting function. You're giving them a a rationale for your answer that makes sense, and if say, good, I get it, you're off to the races. And if they get curt like this guy did -- well now you both know you're not a fit.

[ChicagoGuy]

I have no idea why but many escorts I know or know of here and in Europe do not like Asian clients. I never ask why because it's a subject I'd rather drop.

 

I do know that personal hygiene of clients is most escorts' main concern.

 

My first ever hire did not like Asians. It was very evident from the time we setting up the meeting. In fact, in hindsight, he seemed to try to cancel it as I was parking the car. But that being my first, I went for it, and totally regretted it.

 

Hygiene goes for both client and escort. Sad to say, even some of the best rated and best looking escorts I have hired had some odor situation.

 

I immediately stop communicating with escorts when they ask for pictures or ask for more descriptions or stats. Not because I have insecurities but because I know I am a good prospect who will pay the agreed amount for services, and I don't have to prove anything more than what I divulge during pre-meeting communications. And true that! Initial conversations and exchanges should build raapport. It is that connection, or lack thereof, that could make such reqiests a non-dealbreaker.