Sfojohn

Weird that he advertises in rentmasseur. Called as well and the tone was like I won’t even get nude it is “therapeutic” only.

Saw him for a massage. Average not bad. And  kind of okay sensual touches but nothing more. Also as said before not muscular has a pot belly.

Recommended gyms in Los Angeles where eye candies are guaranteed and probably some discrete action ? Please suggest per the latest! Thanks. 

Has anyone gone to a masseur for the first time and taken a Viagra (or equivalent) before hand?

Had tried Armin a while ago and I’d definitely repeat, it was great. There is an erotic version of his massage where he is nude, and woah has a huge tool. As quoted here, definitely offers full time promised. A bodybuilder extremely hot to be with. His speciality I believe is leather and BDSM- role play which haven’t tried yet.

Wilshire has the most action.  Century has the hottest guys.
FYI - A gent from guysspaguide started a new Discord channel to discuss the LA spa scene.
https://discord.gg/bW7E9wAM

Weird that he advertises in rentmasseur. Called as well and the tone was like I won’t even get nude it is “therapeutic” only.

If you’re close there is a way to stop it: pinch/squeeze the head: finger and thumb, thumb on the front and finger on the back. It makes it back off. Learned this trick from a therapist friend who said sex therapists use it to help fix premature ejaculation. 
 
sam

Yes, I have clients who cum easily especially during massage. It means they struggle to relax and enjoy the massage. What I do is help them cum immediately before we start (I suck them or wank then off) then they can relax at the start of the massage and build up again to a happy ending. So it’s a happy start and end. 
Another client of mine just enjoys the massage and seems to cum randomly throughout and he’s not bothered by it so nor am I. When he turns over there’s a pool of cum where his cock was on the table. I’ve no idea how he manages to achieve it (he’s youngish, I guess that helps!). I do play with his balls and rim him etc during the massage but I don’t touch his cock while he’s laying on his front. He says it’s the pressure of him laying on it and my touch that prompts him to cum.
However more usual is for the client to tell me if they are getting close and then I back off. I’m experienced at spotting the signs anyway but if they’re getting close I ask them to say “7”. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is you’re cuming and 1 is you’re soft, 7 is the point just before no return so to speak :-). All guys understand that. So if they say 7 I go somewhere else on their body and bring things back to 6….

Cool does that mean I cum thru out the massage session? I thought cum signals end of the session!

Called and only does therapeutic 

I have a problem - even during therapeutic massages, I cum easily on touch, how do I control it? Is there any easy way or tried and tested methods. Or is it actually good that I cum easily  please advise!!

I think there's a big misunderstanding between sensual and erotic massage particularly when looking for a great happy end. I have found that sensual is just a clothed masseur teases you prior to jerk you off, while erotic is naked or nearly and actual sex included (oral or otherwise). Have you been "deceived" by letting you think one outcome and it turns out the other. Should we say something before starting or after we get hard, making sure we get what we are expecting?

For that, I would recommend Miles (https://rentmasseur.com/MilesMassageLa). He gives an amazing glutes massage and is very manly. 

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This is who shows up, nice enough guy at around 5'6 with mobile massage table. Therapeutic only, as I guessed.
 

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/41986/
Methinks he's purely Therapeutic, and might give a client blue-balls.

Reporting back. Avoid at all costs. Poor massage asked for deep but was a clock watcher. Too concerned about money. He got very angry when I had a minor hiccup in payment. Does not use any oil or cream enough, very skimpy. Looks nothing like his photos. All in all a very bad experience.
That was just my experience. YMMV.

San Francisco still has some very active cruising, I recently discovered by accident. PM for details.

Latest review on Rentmasseur, looks like Oaktown isn't alone:
 
Reviewed by Zeeker  on Jun 25, 19:42 I am not happy with his service. We agreed on 90 min at $220
I showed up at 10 50 am getting ready for 11 am service and finished at 12 06 noon. I was baffled why the service was brief and he did not even apologize to me when I showed up and he was unprepared. I got ripped off. I will not recommend anyone to use his service. Yes I paid $220 and left. I was not in the mood to argue becuase of the communication barrier. He was awkward with me being deaf. So I learned my lesson and will not go back to him ever.

I imagine that a masseur might target gay men for a variety of reasons. On a practical note, for example, men (particularly gay men) might be more likely to go to a male stranger's residence for a massage or invite him into their home than a woman. It might just be a business decision.
 
I think that many massages are inherently sensual on some level, as you're experiencing pleasure from someone touching your body. Although it has been my experience that many (maybe most) m4m masseurs offer some level of extras (nude, MT, HE), I don't think that these extras are necessarily implied. He just needs to be honest about his services. It is frustrating when a provider clearly uses sex to sell a strictly therapeutic massage. Nevertheless, I still think a client can have an emotional connection with a therapeutic masseur. Hugo, for example, was really friendly and gave fitness advice. By showing interest in the client beyond the massage, he's potentially fostering a connection.

Was planning to learn to swim and go for private swim classes. Was checking out swimcoaches and OMG they are damn hot in those speedos. Scheduled for the first lesson, I’ve been ask to come with a Speedo.
it turns me on!!! Any cool speedo ideas, and how can I take it forward as interesting. Lookin to get some fun wearing a Speedo.

And don’t forget San Francisco has Fleet Week. This year it’s October 3-11

Good for you @Sfojohn 
I took adult swimming lessons years ago, and I wore speedos (as did most of the other men). It was good fun overall. At first I had a poor teacher (who talked about “feeling the Zen of the water”) so I complained to the course-organiser and I asked to be taught by a hot guy I’d noticed. He was a nice guy, 23 who turned out to be on the Olympic swimming squad
What I did was successful but I feel the key was I took it slowly. As the course was limited to 6 lessons, I asked the hot guy if he had time to teach me privately. I explained I wanted to improve and I needed close tuition in the pool 2x a week. I told him I was happy to pay cash and asked him for a rate; his request was modest. 
We went regularly for an hour’s training in the University pool. We’d meet beforehand, strip off together, swim and then shower together before getting dressed.  My instinct was that he was str8 (that proved correct) but very fit with lots of testosterone and no girlfriend; he was also a student with little money.
After 2 training sessions, I suggested coffee after our swim. He was chatty and good company, and he asked me questions. One day he introduced me at the pool to a friend who was also on the Olympic squad; the friend was equally attractive. Later I suggested we 3 go for a drink but he declined because of his intense training schedule. So I noted what evenings he trained with the squad and I suggested I take him out for dinner afterwards. He was sweet, saying he’d be exhausted but ravenous and he gladly accepted. 
 
What surprised me was that I did NOT have to make the first move. At our next session, in the showers afterward, he suggested we use the sauna. In there, he chatted about how it was OK as we were naked and alone, but on a Saturday evening the sauna would be full of fit, horny guys. He asked me if I was bothered by that. I smiled and said No, it’s fine. I told him “there’s nothing wrong with a man helping a friend out if he’s horny and needs a handjob or a blowjob”. I noticed he was getting aroused and so I asked “we’re not talking about guys fucking in public, are we?” He said No but he had seen some guys pair off as they got dressed after the sauna. So I leaned into him and lightly stroked his cock, then I kissed him on the neck while I tweaked one of his nipples. He gasped and reciprocated….That led to us having an enjoyable 6 month fling. When he moved to another city, he even wrote me a very nice letter thanking me for everything and wishing me well. 

Plot twist: The instructors want you to come with a Speedo because they also want to see your package. 😜

Kudos for learning to swim!!! That's awesome! I learned at a very young age and did so mostly as a leisure activity and not competitively. 
 
As for wearing a traditional Speedo, its not something I've ever felt comfortable enough to try to pull off myself, but salute all who do. I do have a pair of aqua shorts, but haven't worn them in public yet. Maybe soon....baby steps! 🤔🤣
Enjoy your swim lessons and Speedo shopping.