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Facts, my man! You really put it in the right perspective. Somehow I hadn’t caught onto how the gesture of sending a pic can be a maneuvering tactic, but it makes clear sense. However, what I can say is even more disenchanting...is the off chance that a “client” browsing a rate-less RentMen could be “imagining” that we are everything but what you specified as it relates to the nature of what we do. I’ve had the occasional person claim (via phone...God forbid, not during or after a meeting) they didn’t know I was for hire. So some of these guys may be disillusioned to believe that we are simply a high end Grindr (and doesn’t help some escorts are using these obvious selfie photos as main profile pics. I’m of the old school that a PROFESSIONAL site should not be plastered with selfie shots.) And there’s no harm or foul with that. I actually like to know more about the client, and I also like receiving pics. Just to be clear. But what I am not too hot about, is someone contacting and including a pic of themselves, having a good chat about my sessions and what hotel they’re or I’m at...and then they retreat to, “okay, I’ll let you know”. Which never happens. And then when I call them on it, they come with the tired old “I never made an appointment” line. Well then why the FUNK did you bother sending me pics of you, if you didn’t funking have any intent to make an appointment ??‍♂️. I’ve had more than enough guys do that, and now hearing @HoleTrainer giving his 2 cents...I’m definitely going to not give as much of a time of day thinking, “oh great they sent me a pic, so this is definitely a serious client” ??‍♂️ However, I will say exception to every rule: I did have a client send me a couple of pics of himself, one which included his jizz shot. We did end up meeting later that day and....all was exactly as pictured in the end ? So like I say, sending a pic won’t be met with hostility, but if someone is going to do it, do it with genuine intent. Unfortunately, today’s app society makes this hard to do. People are so busy playing gigapet on their iPhones with other men, gay sex has become a gaming app for many. That’s why it’s important to just have a biz setup at the door. Some guys get caught into the rat race of answering every call and text and being “available now” round the clock. It’s just a waste of time. I want quality, not quantity.

I’ll just say though, there’s a hallway for every oversized hot dog ? he just gotta keep hope alive. Maybe visit a bathhouse on a Saturday night, the parTy guys will definitely not have an issue ?

This I agree! I think “we” as gay men focus ??‍♂️ so much on dick sizes and materialistic attributes. That’s why I’ve had to cut out a lot of the superficially sexual guys out of my “zone” (and some have even passed on their own due to drugs/addictions used to take such large cocks). Bottoms can be part of the problem, and the solution. Not just those who are non-monster cock guys. I think some guys out there, namely bottoms, make finding a big dick too much of a their daily focus. But someone can have a big dick, and actually be a big dick lol. Some even try to “makeup” for their shortcomings by seeking out bigger and tougher tops. My last “fuck buddy” tried to make it seem like I wasn’t aggressive enough, like they are in porn. I’m like dude, you’re like 5’9, 160 pounds and I’m 6’2, 205 pounds and my dick is twice the size of his. Any rougher, and he’d need an extra top to fill the new hole I just split him ? Plus, I’ve had the time or 2 where rough fucking has made my dick slip out of their ass. And that’s easily a recipe for a fractured penis. That’s why when bottoms start aggressively throwing their ass back...I tell them to STOP. That said, I’ve been from time to time told I wasn’t too big down below. But in my case, I’ve realized that I’m a “grower” not a show-er and that also the camera tends to play tricks with my dick. Because my legs from my waist to my knees are something like 18-19 inches, me being a soft 3 or 4 inches can look disproportionately small from a distance. But when it’s like eight ? and in their face, I’ve not had much complaints lol. That said, there’s things that have been clinically proven, that can help guys “grow” a bit. That includes slimming the midsection, exercising (increased flow), trimming pubes (not necessarily bare, but just some grooming versus a full on “bush”, and many porn stars are trimmed to give this effect also), and also taking natural herbs helps. Even having sex regularly, can make it bigger. All assumes you want or need to be. If a guy is a “superficial” size queen, it doesn’t matter if you’re 9, 10 or 12 inches. His goal isn’t to find a big dick. His goal is to just find “many” big dicks. So yours won’t really matter after you fuck him ??‍♂️

word to the wise and this isn’t sexist: how female (and even MTFs) escorts do on a tour, shouldn’t always be an indicator or deciding factor for what city will best. Miami is an example: some drive Mercedes and have brought condos off of selling sex. But we’ve already discussed the market for Miami/S. Florida for gay male escorts. That said, Boston is good for other reasons...however I did 1 trip there back in 2009, and haven’t been back. It was “ok”, but there (was) also a plethora of flakes. However, I’ve said before; cities change, me as a provider changes, websites change. So I can’t mention how it would be now. Some cities that sucked years ago, I’ve gone and been run off my feet with bookings years later. I would have liked to take a post-covid tour since hotels in even the most expensive cities have dropped substantially, but I don’t know for how much longer the trend will continue before I get out there. I wish I could say you were correct, but I have to counter and say that it doesn’t quite work that way. In fact, it’s just the opposite. As someone who’s been touring since 2008, 90% of the time the more escorts there are, the less your chances are of making big numbers. HOWEVER, I find there are exceptions. If a city is wealthy, large and “gay” enough to support the supply, it could work. These include San Francisco, Palm Springs (varies), Washington DC. But beyond those cities, I’ve not found hardly any large city that is brimming with escorts, to really be worth going without careful scheduling and/or a FEW anchor clients. These include Orlando, Atlanta, Dallas, LA, etc. Even places like Kansas City, Denver, Salt Lake City, Charlotte, Raleigh, and even Phoenix: these cities are not easy anymore like they used to back in earlier 2000s because so many guys are filling into these cities. And it also doesn’t help (well, actually it does in a way) that there’s not many sites competing. Clients used to be able to go to higher end or lower end sites. Now it’s just RentMen and Grindr. For example, I went to a smallish Midwestern city last week (I can’t reveal all my secrets...which aren’t really secrets because I see more guys going to even the smaller cities from time to time). I literally went with NO notice. I just went spur of the moment to drive another escort up, after he missed his train. I was able to squeeze in 3 clients, and I could have had 5 or 6 if the others didn’t flake. Idk how my other escort friend did because he seemed kind of jealous and annoyed that I decided to stay in town. But we are different from each other (other than both being Black), so I wasn’t too concerned. However, if a town has 0 escorts...say, some cowpoke town off the interstate, then no. Don’t expect anything unless a client happens to just call from that city. Happens with me every once in awhile. Tiny town with no escorts, and a client exists there. I actually spent some time in Fort Collins, and it was refreshing to get away from Denver. Denver starts to get annoying after awhile. It’s becoming like Phoenix in terms of “traffic”. I was at 1 hotel, and there was another escort staying right next door to me. I like how you said every trip to every city is different. It’s very true. You can do good in Washington DC one month, and go back a year or 2 later and be completely dead. And then a week later, be right back busy. True story lol.

it is crazy, however I’ve dealt that same story more times than I can even count. Usually happens after the 1st or 2nd meet (in my personal life outside of escorting, but many of my clients end up regulars), however not 13 years. I find there’s only 2 ways, many gay guys handle working on a relationship: either they leave without notice, or they’ll talk about things only with the goal of putting down the self esteem of their partner. So if a mother fucker wants to get up and walk away, go. Whatever it is a person doesn’t like and can’t say in the moment, is more a reflection on them. As it relates to the topic, I did find myself in some “relationships” with clients. But going by my last one, I stood by the idea that I didn’t feel we needed to go that route. And my intuition proved right. He was an affectionate, lovable guy...but he was also needy and controlling. Add in unresolved parental issues, sex/porn addiction and prescription medication use... the guy was a bit of a whack job. But I looked past and was starting to love him, but he was just a 24/7 dick. He always had a problem with something I said, or didn’t say. Eventually it crashed and burned. That said: I personally won’t go into anymore serious dating situations with a client. That’s not out of lack of trust or my experiences. It’s more of just I understand what the relationship is. It’s not meant to be monogamous or committed. It doesn’t mean that there can’t be mutual respect, a long term “friendship”, or even genuine like for each other. Heck, I even have a couple who I stay with. Clients can make great housemates or travel buddies. But it doesn’t mean we have to chart into being “boyfriends” while “being ok” with me being an escort. I feel the basis of a client-escort interaction is to be free from the intricacies of a traditional relationship. That’s a perk! For less than the cost of the monthly rent for a 1 bedroom apartment in most cities, a person can have an arrangement with a guy... without the skeletons lol. Relationships are hard. And that’s not even touching the surface. Men are difficult. Personalities are difficult. It’s hard enough trying to find 1 attractive man to stay in a relationship with, let alone one that you met based on a fantasy. The most I’d want it to be is 2 guys who like each other and enjoy spending time with each other. Once the “partner” role comes into play, people get disappointed when they realize... suddenly you’re NOT in love. I had a former client who we parted ways, because I told him I didn’t want to be his boyfriend, especially while he was still married AND I just wanted a steady regular. The other day I seen he messaged me, and I noticed the number. I was like, hey is this so and so from....? It seemed like he blocked me once realized who I was. Some of these guys portray to escorts that they are relationship material, but some of them have work they need do within.

It’s unfortunate that some of the posters (or shall I say, posers) do these things. I recall a friend I knew from Washington, DC, someone had catfished his ad in San Jose California. It’s just the by product of internet escorting and social media being highly sought after. One thing I’ve started to learn (from one escort to another escort), if an escort posted doesn’t have a “name” for themselves, majority of the time it’s going to be a flake or fake. Or they’re not serious about the business or serious about their reputation. I’ve seen it face to face. These no name, knock off brand guys with names that sound like “screenames” will lure clients in, and it’s not even them when they show up. On the off chance it is them in the pictures, they may be sketchy and “off”. Best way to avoid, is to make sure they have a “real” name. That name should generally include other profiles and references across the net.

Awesome sauce ? I ❤️ 3 ways and it’s extra fun with another top. However, my last 3 way included 1 bottom and 1 verse top. I gladly fucked them both while the main guy (client) also took turns fucking him and gave my 1st ever double facial. 4 days worth of jizz ? ?

ironic, a client and I were just talking about me going to London. It was on my bucket list for 2020, but of course travel was all out of whack. If the stars align and I can make it, I might be able to make the leap lol.

Right, all of the above. And yeah...once you agree to something you have to stick with it. If either party don't agree, don't let them waste their time coming. I had to battle with myself on this today. A client was coming, and I agreed to let him come over close to my hotel checkout time. I would have to pay extra by the hour to stay longer, so no biggie. But I had typed up a couple texts telling him I couldn't do it because I wanted to continue on to my destination, but then I deleted them before I sent it. I would feel like a shitty person to cancel on the guy, when he was on his way (even though he was coming to the city anyway for other stuff...at-least that's what he said but who knows maybe he did come just for me). But otherwise yes, I'm not going to work with anymore guys UNLESS the client has met me and the other escort already and knows both our demeanors OR the client chooses to contact individually (I've had a few successful 3 and 4 ways in this manner before). But I can't be confident that another guy will arrange a session with the same intent that I would. I don't do secrets and surprises when it comes down to it. I even seen a female escort who did such thing years ago. The client called both of us to arrive. She came in, got the 200... and then was like, "this is just my arrival fee. If you want to do anything beyond this, it'll be an extra 200". And she did nothing more than just watch him suck me off. ?

You said this very well! Definitely bridged that disconnect, and it makes sense. And I see it. That’s why I told one of the escorts before we met: If I take my time out to meet another escort 1 on 1, it can’t be a situation where you’re ready to rush off to the next client after 30 minutes. However: I went ahead and went out on a limb to meet one of the advertisers who I mentioned in my earlier post. I’ll just say: I think the other thing that will probably be a “block” for me, is that I find some guys have ways of working that I may ethically don’t agree with (and even I have been subject of disapproval by some on the board on things). That said, I’m almost feeling lucky to have not been in a worse situation the other night. The escort guy I met up with had arranged a 3 way visit for a client (he met him on Grindr, which is another way of working I don’t regularly pursue, but he uses it religiously). The client wasn’t able to afford the MSRP of having us both. But he said what he could pay, and escort agreed. Well, after the client arrived and paid us upfront...we started the action, but before we could get into the “main course”, the other escort decides that he wasn’t being paid enough, and was only going to do vanilla service. At that point, the client is like...well we agreed to do that. And I’m like, hey...I’ll go ahead and continue, it’s not an issue for me even though it is less than what I’d normally do. But the guy was from Grindr. You don’t always get regular price advertising on Grindr. It’s like the Groupon of escorting. The other escort is like no, I don’t want to do all that. Then the client starts asking for the donation back, and I’m just there like...trying to mitigate the situation. Other escort isn’t budging. Client is getting angry. On his way out, the client said; “you guys go fuck yourselves”. And this is at the escort’s hotel. Which is a security breach. But then come to find out, the escort didn’t even have his client’s phone number. The client also agreed to pay the rest the next day, but I’m telling the escort, how would you have gotten it if you didn’t have his phone number to begin with? I always ask every client to include name, age, and phone number. It’s just a responsible thing to ask. I don’t mention this to bash the other escort, but it’s an example of the things one can run into, dealing with other guys in the biz. I felt so bad for the client, I almost wanted to run out to the client and say, “call me...I’ll meet you for no charge next time.” I was telling the escort, the “client” was from Grindr and he was already here. There’s no guarantee he would have become a regular or even paid us the rest of the funds, but it certainly guaranteed the client won’t come again. I’ve been in very few confrontational in-person situations with clients, and that was one I would have never let go down on my watch. Other than that, the escort seems like a guy with a good amount of common sense and class. But we work so differently, that I almost don’t feel right about it. Like for one, he wanted to do the 3 way on a PULL OUT SOFA. I’m like, what are you doing? I would never do a session like that. Put a sheet over your bed if you must. But it just goes to show, when it comes down to it...we may both have the same end game, but it doesn’t equate to being on the same page on things when it comes down to running things.

That’s right. And that’s why I referenced him, because he’s not in the biz any longer. I spoke to him maybe 4 years ago when I was temporarily residing in Orlando, after he had moved to Washington State. Mostly along the lines of, “I like it out here”

I know people like that also. I mean, if we've learned anything over the last 4 year's: a person can be a billionaire and still be frugal and treat people with little worth. I used to come across guys like that all the time: I knew an older guy (not a client, but just had miscellaneous boy toys he'd take out to dinner, etc) years ago when I was younger and dumber, who was decently wealthy: not rich, but had a home in Miami and Pennsylvania. He was so cheap, I had a vehicular emergency occur in his driveway. Had AAA tow me to the shop. Repair bill was like $250. I was already in the area from out of town, which made it worse. He didn't even try to offer me anything, so I could at the very least; make it to a client if one called. But then again, I've found some of the worst "rich" guys are the ones who keep Black "boy toys" around. They have their 1 trophy they keep around and take care of all their expenses...but anytime their others have an issue, they categorize them as just another guy with "problems" and their insensitivity kicks in. That's why I don't care to keep the company of "rich" guys unless we're in a communicated exchange situation. Not that it always has to be about money, but with the understanding that if I need it, they'll be willing to share likewise as I'd be willing to share my craft. But if they think they can get access just because they offer me a room in their home or a fancy dinner... please. That's why I'm so glad on my last tour, I took MYSELF out to eat majority of the time (except when out with my buddy @jbm500 who was courteous to treat a couple of times) and stayed in a hotel nearly every night of the trip except 2. I've grown tired of people doing things for me and thinking since they did it, they don't have to do anything else or that I'm somehow "indebted" to be grateful for what they offered, no questions or substitutions asked

"Brank warned that he would tell people that Burns was gay and paying for an escort if he didn’t pay $500,000 in cash and hand over his $100,000 Audi sports car. Burns quickly followed Brank’s demands, but that only led to Brank wanting more. Brank then demanded that Burns give him Burns’ Los Angeles apartment and $1 million in cash. While Burns agreed, he also called the FBI." I don't want to get wrapped up in gossiping about a person's downfall, because at the end of the day we don't really know the situation as it played out. but this example reeks of White privilege. It sounded like the guy was already making good coin as it is, yet he abused the situation far beyond what was necessary. Yet it seems like the 3rd degree is given when a genuine provider asks for a cancellation fee or deposit: despite the provider already spending money out pocket in anticipation for a booking that may or may not happen.

To start: I don’t refer necessarily to the interactions between providers on the board, or the annual meetups/luncheons that go on...because these are coordinated events where people have the opportunity to connect as a group in a public setting, versus 2 individuals in a private space. I think it’s beneficial resource to have. I used to be more optimistic about cultivating friendships/connections with other male escorts in real life, but I’m starting to realize I really don’t care to anymore. I finally start to see why guys like the former Micheal Vincenzo (think I got it right?) who I’d chatted with, told me he only sticks to clients when he travels. I’m just finding many of my last couple meetups with another escort 1 on 1, have just had no depth beyond the video we shot. 1 guy, I’ve known him as a bartender for years, he rushed thru our video shoot, and was dashing off to a client the minute we finished. I also suggested he come to the chic air bnb spot I had, with ample natural lighting and “props”...yet he wanted to call the shots on the whole scene, meeting at his hotel (is it just me, or does anyone else feel like hotel backgrounds cheapens the porn? One video, it was obvious they used a courtyard Mariott) with dim lighting and probably thin walls to boot. There was also another guy I linked up with, who we’d been trying to fuck for awhile...but he was always pushy and kinda condescending about it, and admitted he was “sober” now, but we finally did. And it was great. Except afterwards, he just completely went MIA. Not sure what it was, but whatever it was I wouldn’t know. So fast forward to this weekend, there was another escort guy in town who we’d previously tried to meet as well. But he seemed kind of sketchy, so I never went thru with it. This was time I was like, let me not be judgmental about other sex workers. But once again, it was just a mess. The agreement was to shoot a video. But then he tells me can we do it without our faces in it. Before that it took him 4-5 hours to respond back about meeting up. At this point I’m like, I’m not even about to leave my house to meet him, because that’s just inconsiderate. So I told him today, I really haven’t been meeting a lot of other guys in the biz lately. Not to mention, at the end of the day, we are competition. We can pretend to look at it like we’re not, but fact of the matter is, we are. How can sit and be cheesing (smiling) and grinning and doing freebie hookups, with a guy who may have very well offered full service for $100 to one of my potential clients? Not to say that I should be mad about it, but how does that benefit our interaction? Going back to the other guy I knew as a bartender, there’s been a couple times we’ve been in the same city. Most every conversation is, “I have a client scheduled at this, this, and that time.” Like, why do I need to know everytime you have a client? How is that supposed to make me feel inspired, if I’m maybe had a slow or bad day/week, or just not in a position to take calls. It doesn’t. I find some escort guys, that’s the bulk of what they talk about. The last client, and the next client. And I just don’t find that conducive to me at all. Maybe I’m tripping, but part of me feels like some interactions I have begun to outgrow. Not to sound selfish, but if there doesn’t seem to be a purpose or foundation for me in a certain interaction...I almost don’t see the reason.

not to mention, the stimulus checks are the actual economy booster. I was on tour the 1st weekend it hit, the malls were jammed packed.

I also have a tiered level of service as well. My lowest rate is $150, and my highest is $400. There’s no rich guy, poor guy sliding scale here. It’s just a basic service for an hour, versus a full service for a couple of hours. and the “rich guys don’t need to hire escorts” statement is asinine, but has a slight bit of truth that’s unfounded. I do know that the most “flamboyant” show of wealth guys: don’t always be the ones doing the hiring. I find just your average Honda Accord type of guy, can be your biggest paying client, but the Mercedes Benz dude could be the one asking for $100.

I’m flattered. If I was the last escort on earth, it certainly would be of least concern as to whether you wanted to meet me...considering I’d likely be so busy with other clients who have no other escorts to see ? Well that does sound like a good way to go about things. Is it male escort based? I know of a female based site that does that. The suggestion I make is from back when Men4Rent used to have such a feature. It was called review clients feature. Whenever I had an issue with a client, I could see that another provider marked them. Occasionally I’d reach out to the provider and ask them what happened, and they would confirm perhaps something similar

I’m flattered. If I was the last escort on earth, it certainly would be of least concern as to whether you wanted to meet me...considering I’d likely be so busy with other clients who have no other escorts to see ? Well that does sound like a good way to go about things. Is it male escort based? I know of a female based site that does that. The suggestion I make is from back when Men4Rent used to have such a feature. It was called review clients feature. Whenever I had an issue with a client, I could see that another provider marked them. Occasionally I’d reach out to the provider and ask them what happened, and they would confirm perhaps something similar

Yes, or even a different scenario: being in a codependent relationship with someone who's simply an atm. I recently lost an "old" friend likely due to some kinda drug overdose (old because I let go of the friendship after receiving disparaging messages from him a couple months earlier) who was critical about my lifestyle choice about being an escort, yet he was living off of a guy and their relationship was volatile, but both of them seemed to enjoy their brewing toxicity amongst the lavish good times they would have. That said, I'm not sure where this drug addiction reference came into play. Nothing in the article seems to point to that.

Right, and in some areas much more than others. I went thru my iPhone blocked list, and it’s long...but it should be 3 times as long as it is lol. I haven’t been blocking enough. But now, I’m going to even go so far as to just block anyone who’s texts and “ghosts” the 1st time. Because I been finding they more likely come back around and do it again at a later time, and I forget how they handled things last time. This week alone I’ve already blocked 3 numbers, all in the same area. It’s exactly why I initially wanted to just freeze my ad until I was ready to go on tour again. Why have an ad up, just to be irritated ??‍♂️ That’s not what I paid for. But I spoke to RentMen, they assured me that soon they may be considering taking my suggestion to add a “portal” that only escorts can access, that will allow us to share contacts of problematic people...that way we can avoid running into the same jokers over and over again. Because those same jokers are likely running the same game on multiple escorts, and we should have some way of knowing to use judgement or avoid seeing a particular person, if another provider said he stood him up as well.

Ah interesting link there lol. I can't help but think of the "bachelorette" though when it comes down to all the guys a woman would have to choose from. I'll stick with my gay 3 ways though. My last one was...something to recall. Even the dog tried to break up the party by plopping himself onto the bed lol.

Lol thanks luv! ? ...was just one of those random sitting on a couch hotel moments, where I felt like getting my selfie stand out.

Met him once for the 1st time years back at @Oliver annual Palm Springs bash. Had a nice 1 on 1 chat poolside at Canyon Club or something like that. We didn’t always see eye to eye, and he could be stern...but glad we were able to put our differences aside and remain cordial. So sad lately, many older “vets” of the community have been passing away this year. I find myself reaching out to former regulars not for money, but just to make sure they’re okay. So important to take care of ourselves, and each other -Jerry

To start: I sympathize with your vulnerability. I recently lost a friend as well earlier this year. It’s hard to keep a straight persona. However, I’m talking to the universe. The universe may include those who happen to be escorts. Even though these questions may feel uncomfortable, I still have a reason to ask them. There’s a lot of stuff that goes on, that I can’t always comprehend. And yes, it gets annoying when it becomes recurring. But 2 minds are better the one, usually. They’re just questions though, not any plot to harp on any individual person. So there should be no hard feelings on anyone’s part. But yes: people send pictures all the time and get laid in the best way. That’s facts. But, I’m talking about a very specific process, that pertains to this line of work. I didn’t want to say it, but you read ? my mind to the T ?? I could see if they sent the picture and DIDN’T flake, but why bother doing it, if they aren’t going to go thru with the visit? Would they not be concerned with a sex worker possibly using their pics in ways that could be, not great? Not that I have a reason to, but hypothetically speaking. Its just ridiculous. On the one hand it’s a very nice and reassuring gesture WHEN they actually follow thru. On the other hand, it cheapens our correspondence to a Grindr chat session, when they send pics and then ghost midstream. Not to mention my ad phone is not plugged into an unlimited carrier. Those pics ad to my data usage.

This is generally an ideal scenario... however it really just depends on the situation. I’ve found 3 ways with another escort does not equate to less work than with 2 clients (it’s also usually never 2 “clients” verbatim, but 1 client who has someone he regularly plays or lives with). In my experience, I personally have mixed feelings about doing a session with another escort. On the one hand it can be fun, but on the other, you’re working harder to “perform” than if it were you alone or with 2 clients. I feel I have more “direction” over a couple that’s 2 clients, than with another escort. When it’s 2 escorts, I feel the client is doing most of the directing. When it’s me and 2 clients, I can direct: okay suck him while I fuck you, suck me while he fucks you, etc. fuck him, while I’m fucking you ? I remember one 3 way where the client wanted a bunch of clothespins attached to his scrotum. I didn’t want to do that. He asked the other escort to. So it was like, okay now I’ve got to be even MORE kinkier to match that? ?