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Ah interesting link there lol. I can't help but think of the "bachelorette" though when it comes down to all the guys a woman would have to choose from. I'll stick with my gay 3 ways though. My last one was...something to recall. Even the dog tried to break up the party by plopping himself onto the bed lol.

Lol thanks luv! ? ...was just one of those random sitting on a couch hotel moments, where I felt like getting my selfie stand out.

Met him once for the 1st time years back at @Oliver annual Palm Springs bash. Had a nice 1 on 1 chat poolside at Canyon Club or something like that. We didn’t always see eye to eye, and he could be stern...but glad we were able to put our differences aside and remain cordial. So sad lately, many older “vets” of the community have been passing away this year. I find myself reaching out to former regulars not for money, but just to make sure they’re okay. So important to take care of ourselves, and each other -Jerry

To start: I sympathize with your vulnerability. I recently lost a friend as well earlier this year. It’s hard to keep a straight persona. However, I’m talking to the universe. The universe may include those who happen to be escorts. Even though these questions may feel uncomfortable, I still have a reason to ask them. There’s a lot of stuff that goes on, that I can’t always comprehend. And yes, it gets annoying when it becomes recurring. But 2 minds are better the one, usually. They’re just questions though, not any plot to harp on any individual person. So there should be no hard feelings on anyone’s part. But yes: people send pictures all the time and get laid in the best way. That’s facts. But, I’m talking about a very specific process, that pertains to this line of work. I didn’t want to say it, but you read ? my mind to the T ?? I could see if they sent the picture and DIDN’T flake, but why bother doing it, if they aren’t going to go thru with the visit? Would they not be concerned with a sex worker possibly using their pics in ways that could be, not great? Not that I have a reason to, but hypothetically speaking. Its just ridiculous. On the one hand it’s a very nice and reassuring gesture WHEN they actually follow thru. On the other hand, it cheapens our correspondence to a Grindr chat session, when they send pics and then ghost midstream. Not to mention my ad phone is not plugged into an unlimited carrier. Those pics ad to my data usage.

This is generally an ideal scenario... however it really just depends on the situation. I’ve found 3 ways with another escort does not equate to less work than with 2 clients (it’s also usually never 2 “clients” verbatim, but 1 client who has someone he regularly plays or lives with). In my experience, I personally have mixed feelings about doing a session with another escort. On the one hand it can be fun, but on the other, you’re working harder to “perform” than if it were you alone or with 2 clients. I feel I have more “direction” over a couple that’s 2 clients, than with another escort. When it’s 2 escorts, I feel the client is doing most of the directing. When it’s me and 2 clients, I can direct: okay suck him while I fuck you, suck me while he fucks you, etc. fuck him, while I’m fucking you ? I remember one 3 way where the client wanted a bunch of clothespins attached to his scrotum. I didn’t want to do that. He asked the other escort to. So it was like, okay now I’ve got to be even MORE kinkier to match that? ?

Ha, interesting. I can see the appeal of the fantasy, but it’s just not for me. And like you say, a lot of toying that goes on. I did have one on tour which coulda been genuine, but he sent a picture of them both so I don’t know. I know there’s a market for those type of scenes, but again it’s always the man talking and setting it up. I also don’t like the idea of “surprises”. If this is a 3som, both parties need to be in the know.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. It had even gotten to a point in KC where I had just stopped working all together for about 2 weeks. Most of the incalls would need to meet by about 3 pm, and I couldn’t accommodate those hours after the holidays. So I pretty much just gave up, considering there’s also fewer and fewer clients who can host. During a visit to one city, all of my requests were incalls. I didn’t mind because since I have to get a hotel anyway, it’s usually more preferred they come to me. But people still trying it. I had to block one prior meet client after he said he was “available all day”, then tells me he has plans with his kids at 4, when I said I could meet him at 3. When I’m traveling...I don’t even give these cities “time” like I used to. If it’s not happening after a day or 2...and mofos playing around/not confirming, I’ll leave. If I didn’t have doings in Kansas City, I’d give this place 1 day...and keep it moving. I had to do that in a couple of cities on my last tour. El Paso would have only gotten 1 night from me as well, but I was tired from traveling and decided to bunk and explore there for like 3-4 days. But I had 1 overnight client, while all the rest no showed. COVID stuff aside, I still can’t help but wonder if the continued lack of being able to post rates...is what’s causing some of the reoccurring mayhem. If guys could clearly see from the start what the price is, maybe there would be less turnover. Fortunately a good number are still in the market for the 200/300 expectation.

Yeah I happened in the right time. and arrived to Phoenix the weekend that everything opened. Stayed at a “hip” hotel downtown, and there was music, brunch and crowds on the rooftop. However I didn’t make it to any gay bars while I was there. The traffic in Phoenix also seems to have gotten close to LA status again as well. I actually missed that one (fortunently). I was in Arizona that weekend. There was a couple other “smaller” snowstorms (if you call 10 inches of snow in 1 night small lol) prior to that big one though, and I was there. That’s one thing I didn’t miss about being in Denver (or likely any major northern city) full time. Appointments start cancelling before the snow, and if you’re lucky, you’ll get someone wanting an outcall...despite the roads being snowpacked.

I’m just curious. I can’t help but ask. But what is up with these people? I never really ask for a picture, usually just some basic primitive details like a name, age and whether they are top or bottom. However, some guys will send a pic...and me thinking they’re more serious, still end up being a flake. I’m thinking of an instance during one of my visits earlier this month: guy sends me a picture with his mask on. Fair enough, but I ask him politely in a few messages later: do you care to send me a pic without your mask on (because why the fuck would you do that, not like going to catch COVID over the phone lol). He then gets his panties in a knot saying he is going to cancel, because he shouldn’t have to be “judged” by his looks...and then sends me a picture without his mask anyway ??‍♂️ So now I’m just like, don’t even send me a pic if you’re going to flake. I had a conversation with someone today, telling them that I still can’t have daily conversations with him just because he sent me a couple of pics of himself: at the end of the day I still never met him and he still hasn’t paid his deposit for the future session. So the hell would I even know if it’s him, or him 10 years ago ??‍♂️ Not to say all clients who send pics are this way, but it does seen more and more who do so...end up being flakes. Like today someone sent me a pic, and made like we were doing an appointment today. Flaked. So idk, what’s this all about.

Good perspective. And yes, I do notice overall hotel visits and travelers are down. However I recently was in Scottsdale Arizona at the W, and a visitor was in town for a conference. So it does sound like things are moving along again. However state by state really varies. Some places hotel restaurants are all closed, in others they are doing Sunday brunches. Let’s hope the trend continues. Hope your next itinerary brings you a good f*ck from ☝? ?

I seem to get this request every now and again, and most recently I decided to just emphasize clearly in my ads, that I will not be taking any requests for these type of visits. I've done LOTS of male couples and 3 ways, but only 1 where there was a woman in the room...and she wasn't his wife, but another escort. It's usually always a guy contacting (never the woman) discussing he's looking to plan something for/with his wife and or girlfriend. This seems to be mere fantasy, but I did once accept a booking of this nature once, and it fell thru at the last minute. The client citing his wife became ill of sorts. Just the other day I got another request similar to this: spent a few minutes chatting over phone, he's going on about it being a surprise for his wife but that he too would also be joining and playing...as in she would also be totally okay with this. Never happened, nor did I expect it to. Is this a real life thing going on? I know of swingers events and obviously bi porn out there. But it seems the ones coming to Rentmen and company for it, aren't the real deal. I also don't really do bi encounters anyway, so whenever it is presented, I usually just want to say no anyway.

I know some people have been compelling me to get back on the grind here...but lately when I'm on tour, my free time is usually a commodity. Wanted to see what others experiences have been so far in this post-pandemic (saying post only due to the vaccines rolling out) environment. My opinion so far: things still seem quite up and down, but sustainable. There's more people coming out to play, but having traveled to several cities since the year started, it's hard to guage. I don't feel busy in the moment, day to day. But over the course of a couple weeks, things end up looking good. There was a couple of cities I visited where I've only ended up with 1 in person client. Others fared better, but some still could have been better. I know in many places, I can feel the eagerness to meet. Guys coming out of quarantine and hibernation. But it's coming in waves, often last minute with not much planning or time window. It seems now, one has to just always be available. I rarely put up "available now" because it's rare someone is available the same time I'm available. So I just try to predict and manage. But my last tour had its moments, and I likely wouldn't of been able to recoup from no shows, had I not gotten a couple of longer appointments, and 1 town in particular that had me a client or 2 each day the whole weekend. So overall, it's definitely gotten better...but I wouldn't say it's the roaring 20s just yet. I think the stimulus checks have been an overall godsend, but only to a degree because the market is still saturated just about everywhere.

My thing is: what is considered clean shaven? Bare with a razor, or just trimmed low? Because there’s both. So maybe he did shave, but just left a 5 o’clock shadow trim? If someone asked me to be clean shaven, I would not take the appointment, even for extra money. Especially since I have no issue getting laid with it. However, mine would be more about health versus image. I cannot take a full shave. I can get line ups and even straight razor, but not a full clean shave. I would break out and get quite bumpy, and the irritation of growing it back would last for days. I can however trim to a low length, but I personally don’t like the look on me as I feel that it detracts my look a bit and brings attention to features that the beard helps conceal. Times have changed tho!!

I learned that scam when I first was looking for places in Denver lol. If the budget is less than $1,200 a month, cherry creek was actually Glendale, or worse: Leetsdale. I was looking at apartments that looked nice on the outside, but when there's 1 washer and dryer for the whole floor of units...that's not cherry creek lol. Some of those areas are even a bit sketch. Not dangerous, but not quite highlands ranch. Reminds me of when in Miami back in the day: all those "close to the beach" budget motels were actually more populated by palmetto bugs than actual tourists. Some of these properties give neighbourhoods a bad name.

Yeah, I'm thinking of sending an email to Rentmen letting them know my thoughts. But, I figure they did their research and have their reasons. But Adam4Adam used to do the same thing as well: lots of cities and neighborhoods to search in. Great for proximity purposes, but not great when your neighborhood has the same 3 guys online day in, day out. That's why I prefer if things were simply separated by area: north Chicago, south Chicago, west Chicago, east Chicago. Far north, far west, far south, etc.

Lol, this! That's why it's important manually choose an area that's in the city. If a new client sees something like that, he could get freaked out and think it's some kinda of operation going on. I've seen a few cities default to a governmental buildings, including what you mentioned. L.A. is a city where I think the extra listings are important. L.A. could be anywhere within a 75 mile radius. But, I can understand why someone wouldn't want to be defaulted to one neighborhood for opportunity reasons.

Possibly, however I feel there's more clarification. Sometimes I've found rentmasseur to have more flakes than Rentmen. But I've found that Adam4Adam used to have more flakes back when "escort" was an option for advertisers. However, I still get some people on the site contacting me, then telling me they don't pay for s**, despite my pro ad saying "masseur".

It's good that you bring this up, in fact I was just in Denver and was able to see how all of this works. Rentmen just recently updated a lot of the cities now. I think it's good that they are including more neighborhoods, but there is a problem with 2 things to be aware of: "Glendale" area is pretty much any of those hotels along S. Colorado Blvd. On the advertiser end, when a provider clicks on "find me, show current/home location", the map will place the provider wherever their location is. With the addition of smaller towns and cities (this was something Rentboy used to do years ago), one can easily be defaulted to a smaller, lesser known location. Having just finished a 45 day tour this week, I've seen 1st hand how it works in many cities. Phoenix is another area with lots of towns within the metro. So if a provider just clicks "find me" and share map...they could end up being placed in a town that's not under the main city: e.g. Cherry Creek instead of Denver The issue with the additional options is: if an advertiser clicks the automated map me feature, it may list them in a location that’s not of the main city they may want to be in: e.g. Glendale instead of Denver (or Los Angeles or Phoenix since both cities also have a suburb named Glendale). In fact, Glendale has its own police department, which I learned after a buddies liquor store was robbed at gunpoint ? always something in Colorado, right? However, the fix is easy: just ensure your map is pinpointed to the main city, but turn off the map me feature. Otherwise clients may see it and think you’re in an area that you’re not. I personally prefer to keep mine off unless I’m actually in the city area, and show as such. I did use Cherry Creek a couple of times, because it was the location I was in, and it gives a chance to standout amongst the sea of ads which is Denver. That said, I was happy with the level of biz happening in Denver this go. Idk if it was 1 thing or a combination of things. I do know that I wasn’t trying to do a lot of “hanging out” and kept a hotel location the entire time, versus crashing with friends and hoping to get advanced appointments. The only things that slowed it down, was the 2nd blizzard BEFORE the 3rd big blizzard. Which caused a couple appointments to fall thru. By the time of the 3rd one, I was already clear out to Arizona lol

I find the same. I think many times it comes down to the "legality" mindset, unless referring to Adam4 Adam which has defaulted all sex workers as "masseurs". Some guys feel safer browsing for massages. Not to mention, the very word "escort" is not even in existence across many sites description. Which sucks, but it also seems to have bridged the divide. I don't even consider myself an escort or a masseur anymore. I just consider myself someone this expertise happens to be erotic in nature. I feel "escort" is what people outside the biz refer to us as. Then they compare it to the H and P word, which is short sighted considering I'm also knowledged in massage, trip planning, sex counseling, the works! But people's idea of it is so skewed, I rather just drop the labels

?? Hi,I’m back (feel like it’s been like a couple of months lol). I might have said something along the lines of that. I also have 3 type of sessions that I offer, and I probably meant that I would prefer orgasms for the sessions that typically go beyond the hour. But as everyone in the biz knows, few experiments in the biz are ever permanent lol. I mean, most appointments in certain markets tend to only be an hour, and there’s only so much one can do about it. However, at the end of the day: I think some clients OVER think the idea. And then make assumptions. For example, the OP says he’s hesitant to see the provider at night because he probably has been cumming all day/already? That’s quite assumptive (not a bad assumption, just a variable assumption). I would actually be MORE willing to cum at the end of the night, than in the morning or afternoon, where it could potentially zap testosterone and energy to do a workout, see a client, or cruise for a personal hookup. The best time to get me to cum, is before I go to bed, but that doesn’t mean I’m not able to in the morning or afternoon. At the same time: clients shouldn’t assume anything. Remember: many “clients” tend to postpone or have change of plans anyway. The other morning, I had 2 clients wanting to see me. I was strategizing how I was going to be able to cum for both, if I needed to. Or cum for 1 and not the other. Turns out, the 2nd client couldn’t make it due to a valid reason...so I decided to just blow my load for the 1st one b/c he is a long time regular. Then later in the evening, in a different city...I had a client, but he was just like, “you can cum if you want to”. But since there was no sucking or fucking involved, and he came 1st...I decided to save the testosterone for my gym workout today. After many years, I think a provider will know how to pace himself. If he’s gone a week or 2 without work, he may be able to cum 2 or 3 FULL loads in a day/night. I’ve done it before. Some days I can cum twice in one night. Other days, I may not. Maybe it’s a busy week or a slow week. There have been times where a guy does something or turns me on to where I can cum twice within a few minutes lol. However, I’m not privy to clients who say outright, “how many times can you cum” or “I want you to cum twice, one in my mouth and one in my ass”. I’m not a dairy cow. I’m not going to promise ANYTHING when it comes to cumming more than once. You get ONE load during your hour, anything more...will need to be booked 2 hours, the evening or an overnight.

I meant to add as well, 1 of my biggest challenges that I’ve faced when traveling..and clients here have mentioned it as well, when seeing providers. It’s can be a challenge to be ready on time (either at your hotel or to their place) for every appointment, when you’re traveling on a non routine route. Then clients cancel even if you let them know ahead, because they may have planned something AFTER the appointment that usually they don’t mention until the cancellation Then, many clients want to push the time earlier than planned, or come earlier. It lessens the time to get ready before the appointment, when I’m already losing time commuting, sorting luggage, waiting in drive thrus for food, etc. Yesterday I arrived to my hotel at 4:30 pm... which isn’t “late” by any means, but my guest wanted to meet around 3:30-4. He also asked if I could meet sooner, at 2. I had to let him know, that I couldn’t do anything sooner than 4 because I was already pressed for time due to a number of things. He ended up not being able to come today, but I had to explain to him, we can “shoot” for a time, but that doesn’t guarantee meeting at that time sharp, when the day comes. It’s too many variables at stake, to put so much expectation that an escort can be ready and available by a certain time when traveling...unless that escort just happens to be at their local incall place, and can plan time accordingly. And I’ve just come to accept, it’s not my fault or the client’s fault. But it’s still frustrating because the client feels like their time isn’t being valued, and I feel their time isn’t flexible (I notice my free “dates” tend to be more flexible, whereas some clients seem to plan with not as much ??‍♂️) At one point I was getting angry at myself for not being able to be ready on time when traveling (even @Epigonos made a joke about it 1 year while visiting Palm Springs) ?. BUT...I find when I’m in the city, and have my incall place set, that’s rarely ever an issue. Especially if they want to come to me. I temporarily had a private incall studio from December thru earlier this month in January, and the stress level of trying to catch appointments on time was pretty much non existent. I wasn’t late for any appointments. Travel has a way of throwing wrenches into the schedule. I’ve even missed appointments because of complications in the process of checking into a hotel, if the client wasn’t willing to wait (long line, unexpectedly high deposit, rooms not up to expectations etc.). I’m almost considering coming up with a disclaimer to send to every client while traveling: PLEASE PREPARE THAT THE APPOINTMENT START TIME MAY RUN LATER THAN PLANNED. PLEASE NOTIFY IF UNABLE TO ALLOW SUCH WINDOW. But of course, things like that tend to get seen as being “off putting”, so I try to just explain on a case by case basis. Even though I did miss my 1st client today, I was able to gain 2 more clients... and timing wasn’t an issue since they were evening visits. I find most of the issues with timing with travel, come when guys want to meet at the ever popular: between noon and 3 pm. It seems many clients need to meet during those times, and it can be a 50/50 chance of working out because if I’m traveling, usually can’t check into a hotel until 2 or 3 anyway... and I usually like to have 30 min to an hour to get set up.

Everything he said.... However the reasoning for travel can vary, for all the ones Shawn mentioned. Some guys may go to the same cities on rotation, or back to back. But I sometimes find that if one travels to a city too often, you may find it gets slower on subsequent visits. Probably considering that there may be guys who see travelers for the "i don't see local guys" reasons. But that may also mean they might not be a regular on every trip. I like to travel to meet friends, and it gives the chance to turn it into a tour. Other events like pride tours and "sex fests" can also be a good excuse... just as long as one isn't overly optimistic. Lot of times, I just travel to wherever my vibes are telling me to go. But this past year I've been only comfortable going within an 8 hour radius, no long cross country trips. I'm not much into flying because it feels limited to me. I have booked week long flights, and wanted to cut it short. Or I may book 2 day trip, and need to extend it. I've learned to never say never when visiting a city lol. There's been places I've swore off ever going to again, only to return 3, 4, or more years later and have a great time. Indianapolis is one of those. I couldn't STAND that city lol. Flakes and racist vibes out of this world. But couple years ago I went twice in one summer, and was busy and had a good time downtown. Still ran into some Flakes, but overall it was a good couple trips...and I've still got the post it note the front desk guy gave me saying he'd like to meet for dinner ? But like Shawn said, there some cities that have consistently proven to not be easy, and I wouldn't advise going to without advance bookings, and extra money already on hand, to avoid disappointment: namely Los Angeles, Vegas, I'd probably say New York, Miami, Detroit, Atlanta, and Houston. All promising markets, but often too dense to go to overly optimistic.

Thankyou, that definitely put everything in perspective. It’s all very true. I guess it just gets to me sometimes, that many “relationships” end up turning sour. Well, that’s bit exaggerative. I’ve not been in a lot of “confirmed” relationships, but I also have had the ones that turn into friends, or the dude who drifts off suddenly after a “great” meet or 2. Of course, I’m not insinuating that I “need” somebody to begin with, but it’s great to have that. Issue is like you said, people are so fucking stuck on their bullshit, they can’t make room for anyone else. They portray they want someone, but can’t actually HANDLE having someone. That’s what I told the last guy; he wanted to be so controlling about things, I told him he has no business being with someone if he’s so stuck up his ass about things being HIS, when in a relationship it should be US. I’m still going to keep an open mind and heart. I’m not one to be jaded or paint the whole culture as untrustworthy (I now understand, but equally feel sorrow for guys who claim, “I don’t do relationships”) But it makes sense why. A lot of guys just be doing too much, to want to give up your own life, and be with them. oddly enough, I find previously Bi-married clients “tend” to be the best catches ? Seems they learned all the pitfalls, and just be so easy going and no unnecessary nonsense and post sexual gripes ?

I get what you're saying 100%. And I did see the humor in what @Benjamin_Nicholas said (e.g. ? thankyou for being a friend ?). But here's the sad truth: few of my friends have done any of that for me. Some have done it, only to use it against me later in an argument or as a way to gain leverage. I’ve confided in “friends” during rough periods, and all they’ve done is talk shit, criticize, and made me feel worse about myself. I’ve had 3 people recently who’ve done that, and they’re all in my trash bin now. I mean don't get me wrong, I don't underestimate or take for granted the chivalry and commarderie of a good friend...But too often, especially with GAY MEN, it seems conditional. Like they'll do those things, provided you have sex with them, or be of some disposable use to them, and don't call them out on any of their behavior, or don't show any adverse behavior yourself. I'm getting to a point now where I just don't want to accept anything a gay guy offers me, unless it's for paid arrangements...because I've had time and time again, a guy do nice things for me; then at some point make it seem like they have the power to pull the plug on whatever they offered when they are having a bad day. It's for the reason, I just filed my 1st lawsuit against a (former) client last week. He came off very friendly over the past few months. We were “dating” which I guess doesn't count as "client", but offered something to help me with my biz...But then he became this irritable control freak who wanted everything on his terms, didn't approve of anything I did, and then pulled something that completely violated the agreement and friendship. I'm like...not so fast. Some guys must think we as sex workers are so afraid and/or ignorant of the law. He's going to learn the hard way, I'm not one of them. I know that's deep...But it just goes to show. It's sad that making friends has to end the way it does sometimes. Which is why sometimes I do prefer to just travel with an open mind and heart, just go to a city and meet someone, hang for a couple times and keep it moving. I'm just finding most gay guys are too much drama to maintain friendships with. Even the ones who claim to live a “quiet, drama free life”, are drama when you get to know them. Past hurts, conditioning, etc. Only a select few aren't that way (or maybe some are only that way around certain people, like I asked the last guy how many other gay black male friends he associated with outside of me, he could only name 1...his ex. Who cheated on him and is with someone I fucked. I said friendship not luggage lol). I'm starting to think I just need to change up my whole crew. I'm starting to think harder about the type of dudes I should be around, versus the ones to keep sparingly, even if it seems we get along well initially. I would even spend more time with women, but I'm just not one of those gay guys who likes to surround himself with feminine energy or female friends. I appreciate women, and seem to have a lot in common with some..But I just don't seek out friendships with.

Seattle is expensive in July! I opted to stay near the airport to get something in my range. But that was several years ago. I also imagine now, we won’t be seeing $350 a night hotels considering hotels are eager for biz. I’ve been browsing many cities, and even the most expensive cities like San Fran, have cut down over half the price. I’m really hoping to take the travel game by the reins this year, last year I didn’t get to take as much advantage of the circumstances as I would of.