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That’s a happy ending (pun intended). However, it’s important for others to understand that one person’s reasons for escorting may differ from another. Some may be in it to make extra money and play, whereas others may have more interest invested in it. Not saying you are, but I think some people view escorts who are just “doing this for fun and extra money” on a higher pedestal than those who are relying on it for their day to day/month to month expenses. As if, they’ve “arrived” and are above those who are having to essentially have it as their main or sole source of income. There’s nothing wrong with that either, right? I bring that up because: clients on the forum often mention being flaked on by an escort sometimes. Well: if a guy is only doing it for extra money or fun, maybe it’s a bit more convenient to flake out if they feel like it. If you’re working another job, just got a paycheck and feeling a little tired +there’s a hotter guy who wants to hookup: that’s a no brainer: flake on the client. Whereas if someone who’s invested and taking it seriously, they may (as in my case) be more trying to leave themselves available for a booking. Not saying that a person who has other sources won’t take it seriously, but it probably lessens the chances. And if the person in question is 50s and has a home paid off, the question as it relates to the topic would be: was it from escorting or something else? Because if it’s from something else, I’m not sure it would fully cover the topic at hand. Anybody can do other stuff and escort on the side once a week. That’s not going to give much solace to a guy who’s trying to revitalize a tanking 🚢 client base…

Yeah it’s crazy. So many attractive, “horny” athletic guys are into that lifestyle. It can be hard to avoid..

With that said, there may even be connects out of Las Vegas, Reno, San Diego or Phoenix also. Rental car rates have been so crazy lately that, I decided it would be better to get a 2nd vehicle. Hell, don't forget https://www.amtrak.com/home either. I did Amtrak twice last year, and as long you're not going cross-country: business class can be so comfortable. You aren't constrained on bags and have ample room to sit and walk.

For anyone not familiar with LA traffic, that's just driving at night with NO traffic. Plan on it taking 3.5-4 hours... LA, Chicago, Atlanta: add 2 hours to anything over 100 miles lol.

Thanks for your perspective and willingness to be open. If the avatar is your pic, it’s their loss because I’m mmm mmm loving the view from the back. I just wanna massage all over those tats 😆 But as it relates to your story: it sounds like the failure to meet wasn’t just due to the hookup site, but the fact that there was 2 DL married guys who also hooked up with each other (red flag). Even though such things do happen in real life (I can attest), those things tend to be built or more popular among confirmed m4m couples, versus sought after online. I know a gay couple now and it seems like they open to me to join their relationship, but I’ve spent the past couple years being friends with “couples” to where I need to move forward with my own life and plus: couples often want to move at their speed and pace. I ain’t got time for that shit. Trust me, you didn’t miss out on anything except maybe 1 good fling. Maybe they were serious and looking for that, but when you add wives to the mix, that’s a recipe for “something never going anywhere”. I met a client in Denver who gives the white daddy vibes. But every time after we met, it was always “because the wife”, etc etc. So we only met once so far. Like dude, I didn’t sign up to just keep hearing about how hard it is to get away from your wife all the time 🤦🏽‍♂️

I remember staying at a "budget" hotel in Orlando, and there was a note posted saying that there would be a $50 fine for cooking in the hotel room. I guess it was akin to smoking as far as fire danger goes. On some trips I'd take a George foreman grill along, but you have to carry your own cleaning stuff to avoid staining the hotel rags when cleaning it. I guess I've done all of the above already lol. Sometime I get tired of going to grocery stores too because it's like..dealing with various crowds in various cities lol. I think too my mood changes day to day or time of day. @Shawn Monroe remembers: we ate out 1 night, then the next night I just wanted to eat in and make our own food. Especially when it comes to seafood. If I'm entertaining i prefer to make it myself. But, I do love it when a client shows me to a nice seafood restaurant lol. I just don't make enough disposable income to just randomly go to legal seafoods or ocean prime just because I'm hungry. I guess the real question was: who avoids sitting down at restaraunts and just takes to go lol. Now that I read it, i don't really like cooking unless I have a room at residence inn or towneplace suites or similar. Problem is, ever since post pandemic: many of these hotels have gotten to be so expensive ru where you almost end up spending same money going out. And when the possibility of a client coming is looming, it can be tricky to commit to cooking. But i kmow when i cook myself i lessen my chance of food poisoning, which happens far too often!!!

That's not my first choice for protein (I tend to get the tubs or grab whichever ones the store has in the fridge) But as @Benjamin_Nicholas said it's definitely a lifesaver especially after long workouts. Only issue is, the protein shakes aren't enough when needing to take pills/supplements..when I do, I tend to like the high protein drinks: Yah when I have points or can find a good market I'll go with rooms with a kitchen. But even then (I know I sound uncompromising), sometimes I'll do that, cook once or twice and get tired of that too. I've actually lost interest in the cooking at hotels thing also because it's too much work to grocery shop, buy/carry seasonings, sometimes hotels (even Marriott branded) don't have enough pots and pans. Then I have to buy my own, and then carry them around the duration of the trip. But I also worry about nutrition and making sure I'm eating enough to build/maintain muscle while traveling. So is hard for me to eat something like 1 pizza for a meal, and feel okay with myself. Maybe the money part is "relative", assuming I budget my hotel expenses and not overspend on things like going out (which lately I've been feeling stupid wasting my money going to shitty ass gay bars, only to stand around and look at cliquey people or drugged up types make out in a corners). The last night of my last trip, I ordered 2 prepackaged wraps from a gas station ($5.99) and that was my dinner. I actually felt okay with that because the little Podunk country town I was in, I wasn't really trying to explore (like @nate_sf said). But the next day I had a mediocre hotel breakfast and then went to the ihop type of diner across the street for brunch lol.

I was reading something similar on a travel forum, about people who challenge themselves to go on trips without eating out: but their alternative seemed to have involved having some sort of camper or traveling with more than 1 person and doing groceries/cooking. I ask because one thing that's kinda taking the fun out of extended travel for me, is the eating part. I joked around with a friend and said I'm going to take up the "addict" diet, that way I won't really be eating much to think about going out 😄 I suppose eating out is supposed to be a fun part of travel, but after a few days of doing it, and not having a "stipend", I start to feel like it's just an extra expense that should be cut out. On some trips, I've done the air bnb style hotels with kitchen for a couple days just to get a break from eating out...but sometimes I've found by the time I get groceries for what I'm making, I've already brought a dinner out, and the cost of the time buying/making it. It's crazy because, there's so many restaurants in a normal sized city, and I've known people who live off of uber eats/take out/dining out. I'm considering switching to non perishables and microwaveable when traveling, and only going out to eat if its client or friends involved 😄

That's all good info, but I must interject and say it sounds like you're referring to what cities make best for "clients choices", versus what would be the best for escorts. I guess technically that "could" be a 1 in the same list, but I'd consider it a "results may vary" simply because being in a city with tons of hot escorts like Miami, doesn't guarantee an escort will actually make any profit by going there. But very good point on the San Francisco market. Can you elaborate? A friend of a friend is relocating there and we talked about making a visit out there. I haven't been since 2016 (when people were running up the hills protesting the Trump winning). I ask because I'm debating between going west coast or east coast next month. I feel even though there's more cities on the east, the west might be the better opportunity for what I'm looking for in terms of art and model gigs and client opportunities. It seems like the only cities in the east that are tolerable to me (so far) are Washington DC and Indianapolis. The rest just seem either too congested or too conservative for what I'm going for. I lost track of this post and never seen the rest of the response until now. Well I guess, thanks? For the heads up...I guess it's no wonder I went into Seattle without much enthusiasm, spending 2 days in an area like you mentioned lol. It's disappointing that so many cities in the country are like that. Cities like Atlanta, Chicago, Denver, and I suppose Seattle are surrounded by some not so liberal areas. And since I do majority of my tours not flying into cities and going straight downtown (I find that stressful and uninspiring), I see a lot of it 1st hand. Even the capitol of DC is surrounded by some pretty iffy towns.

Each year I've done...I've always driven. After 5 months of winter, I don't want to think about a "return flight", I just want to take my time and stay as long as I feel I need to. It's not bad coming from the middle of the country and stopping in places along the way. Next time, I'm going to arrive on Thursday or Friday because...getting in on Saturday, it's too much having to get settled on the first day. Better just to chill.

Well I’m not quite sure what it’s supposed to mean, but based on the demographics of the city it seems about right I suppose: However, seeing a city having lots of other Black providers isn’t much of a determining factor or “it will be great for me too” assumption. I’ve found cities like Chicago, Houston, Atlanta, even the bigger cities in Florida…aren’t really that great in terms of having a busy schedule. Places like that tend to have enough Black providers already, and even if there’s guys who are doing well…it doesn’t guarantee another Black provider will meet the same experience right away (it took me a couple of trips to Chicago before I was able to break in and meet some good clients).

Appreciate the perspective. I have also noticed less of the blatant stuff on the apps (I also tend to be in areas where there's not much diversity anyway, so my inbox stays pretty full lol). However, there's also the "White" app Grindr /Scruff and the "Black" app, Jack'd. So in some ways, the gay world is still divided. However, don't get me wrong: I am very much aware of the dynamic and the most efficient ways to let that be advantageous. I recently did a 5 day extended "weekend" run, and by the end of it, I was so depleted sexually that I needed to go home and stock up on vitamins and electrolytes lol. I even had a fairly hot White guy client come thru and we smashed. But I still feel I should have gotten "more" clients. I know there's not always an immediate thing I can do about it, except wait and change up pictures, but sometimes the insecurity of things being "slow" versus having a steady stream of bookings round the clock, can make me wonder and get paranoid about things. Especially if there's another person saying he's getting x amount of booking requests each day. Not that people don't lie but...I don't necessarily doubt the validity of such claims when I see it 1st hand: how White guys often get preferential placement in gay world business and other scenarios. Ha, interesting. Well...that's good you're able to see a broader perspective. I can't vouch on Philly because I'm from a bit a ways south of there by the way of Florida, but I can say growing up my encounters generally were Black and Puerto Rican at first...but I think one of my 1st White guy encounter was someone in Tampa who sent me a cab (think, 2002 and under 18 lol) there and back...and gave me a wild all night blow job...and after that I was an equal opportunity fucker 😛

Not quite always the case though. There's a guy who goes by https://rentmen.eu/Xandre and he's from Brazil. a client booked us both for a session. I won't kiss and tell but, let's just say I was still horny for days after I bust 🤣 . So, even though I know there may be some merit in the stereotype, it may not apply to all Exactly. In fact, I actually find many clients are POPULAR and either have partners or wives, kids, grandkids, etc. etc. Sometimes I wish I could model the lifestyle my clients have, but I also realize it's different levels of spectrum. What may seem like an ideal lifestyle during the day, may not be so Wait. wait. Stop. Back up. Rewind. Let's just start here: having a workout routine is no guarantee of "free" companionship. First off. Secondly, there's still no guarantee you would have met any of those guys you mentioned, "for free" even if you were Brad Pitt, Arnold in the 80s, or Bradley Cooper WITH the dick of Cutler X combined...I am in shape, have done lots of work on my body, dental, personality, money/cars, you name it: and I STILL have a hard time finding the relationship I want. The only difference is, I get guys easier than I used to. However, most of the guys are in just for sex or "what can you do for me" bullshit...which is why I stay escorting. I already know most gay guys out there either want sex or someone to use. The people who manage to stay in relationships, usually have found a way to either tolerate it, or incorporate that into something meaningful. I also don't "hookup" just to hookup. I have so many guys hitting me up on the apps. Some of them have hit me up on RentMen and been a client. Even one the other day, cute face, body was not impeccable but not out of shape, early 30s. Not bad by any means. But I wouldn't of met him "for free" because I was traveling and I came for the purpose of meeting clients. So, he wouldn't of met me for free, because I wasn't offering that to begin with. And if I wasn't an escort, he'd of never met me because I wouldn't of traveled there for any other reason except at the invention of me being a traveling escort. Some things in life: are on a biblical level of understanding. It involves a degree of cause and effect 😆 I have to say, for your benefit: there's nothing you need to regret. You did it, and now you don't. That's the challenge in life, decisions. I make them all the time, and regret them...all the time. But at the end of the day, you decided what you decide based on the best knowledge you have of the situation at the time. In your case, your decisions were based on WHICH and HOW to find the best escorts, not IF you should be hiring in the first place. I'll also say where you might have gone wrong: 100+ guys in your 30s is an exorbitant number of escort hires. Some of my best and longest clients were those who had only hired once or twice previously. If you're hiring 100s and hadn't stuck to a regular, there's certainly something blocking you. And in my opinion, a person like that (not saying you, but in general) would likely be a problem client: likely to flake or be disrespectful because, it's a numbers game. It's like the shitty clients who say, "I'll call someone else" when I tell them my rates or that I'm not available until a certain time. Well fucking call someone else, good luck with that, and you're now blocked 😄 It's okay to have variety, but similar to the Grindr circuit: if you're just hooking up with new guys (even if it's for free) every day/week...you're going to burn out and your experiences won't be fulfilling. So handle that. Maybe down the line (and this is not being funny, because I'm in counseling also and it's not a bad thing), perhaps you can take sessions with someone who can direct you in the right direction. You can stop seeing providers, but it may still help to read self help books and see a counselor on certain issues.

I can understand your concern for this type of scenario, but like @RadioRob stated…there’s so much more aspects to the equation. I can attest I’ve been in that situation (actually still am). My client list in my 2 home markets of KC (home of the unstoppable Kansas City chiefs, but just a tragic City for single gay men and escorts) and Saint Louis have dried up significantly. I’m also in my mid 30s However, I have a game plan to change the situation. The 1st thing to do in that type of situation, is relocate or travel. Sometimes a base can dry up not just due to the escort, but changes within the city market itself. In my case, traveling isn’t enough. A full on relocation is going to be the ONLY way to alleviate the circumstances. Also 30 isn’t a “declining” age by any means. Unless a person isn’t working on themselves/exercising or doing drugs. I’m actually in better shape now than I was in my 20s. I struggled to gain ”mass” in my 20s, and now I’m at 215 pounds. I’m also a bit older and wiser, even though my tolerance level probably isn’t where it used to be. I don’t like to schedule things without deposits and I’m more quicker to burn bridges with problem clients than I used to. But that’s just a by product of dealing with the same shitty type of clients over and over, and the stress of being in a shitty market: which like I said, it’s URGENT that I fix this. There’s no reason to “fade into the sunset”. There’s so many things out there to do revolving around sex work, you don’t have to JUST be an escort. I recently did a nude calendar and majority of the guys were 30-40+. It opened doors to 2 subsequent events where I was able to get more exposure. So basically, there’s nothing to worry about. You can retire at 25 or 55. It’s all a matter of personal drive and decision making.

Well it goes both ways. I had to turn a client down yesterday because he reached out to me right after a late morning/noon appointment, and hit me up out the blue saying he could ONLY meet at 2 p.m. When I tried to suggest meeting at 3:30/4 or the next day, he wasn’t able to do that. I understand clients and people in general may be busy, but sometimes shit isn’t my fault. I feel in some ways, clients “create” problems for us unintentionally. Can’t name how many times someone has contacted me and rushed me to meet with no notice or flexibility in their schedule. I can’t do much if you only have 1 hour out of 24 hours to meet. Don’t come to me wanting a solution, but not willing to be patient. At the end of the day, I’ve realized clients and escorts can be very different in the perception of time sometimes. I know that’s just the way it is, due to the sometimes spontaneous nature of the biz…but it’s easy to get frustrated and burned out when clients expect miracles without much consideration. For example: yesterday I wanted to go to the gym at the time the client contacted me. I haven’t been all week, and was intending to do that. I started to just take the appointment, but I needed more time in between my last appointment also. But in that situation, it’s like “I don’t care what you’re in the middle of, I need to see you at 2 and only 2.” However, when I try to get clients to change their plans around, they can rarely ever do it. But I feel we are expected to when they want to meet. That’s bullshit. So I just be like, if you don’t want to change your schedule for me, don’t expect me to change my schedule for you. You don’t get superiority just because you’re paying. I’ve gotten to a point where I’ll tell people, my time is just as important as yours. I hate losing money and turning people down, but dignity and respect is a price to pay as well. And I find when I allow it once, they expect it again and again, and eventually the interaction fails.

Right, but that’s just one of the parts to the equation. There’s been plenty times where I’ve advertised in advance, but someone still managed to contact me as I was checking out of the hotel with a cart full of luggage. But otherwise yes, in theory it is better and practical to advertise in advance of going to a city. However, if someone is say; a flight attendant (and I’ve discussed the caveats of trying to be a flight attendant and escort before)…you won’t really know too far ahead. They’ll just pop up. I knew a guy who flew into Phoenix at 4 p.m. and was out of there by 5 a.m. hypothetically if he was an escort he coulda squeezed a client or 2 in. But that’s not a conducive way to plan an actual escort tour in real life.

Well, what’s the incentive for someone to stay much longer? And what region are you in? One thing that has to be remembered, hotels are EXPENSIVE. And I’m not just talking the ritz or Westin. Even so called “budget” hotels can end up costing $150+ just to check in for 1 night. If they ask for a $100 deposit (which is becoming even more common in budget hotels) which is why I’ve been using them less often. So, to just hang around a city for days and days on end, is not a smart move unless it’s actually busy like that. I’ve done that before, mainly in DC, Phoenix, Denver. But, if it’s not steady enough, it can start to feel like a casino: break even, break even. Get a couple wins, then you’re paying money back into the lodging. Like I say, probably best compromise is to either just be ready or sometimes: I’ll even stay in a destination longer if a client sends a deposit. Like, if I’m planning to leave, but it won’t hurt to stay, I’ve asked for deposits and extended my room for an extra day or so. But not much beyond a couple days. I won’t extend a whole week if I’m not planning to.

It’s unfortunate you both are citing very similar things that “real” providers (like me) are also dealing with on a DAILY (sometimes multiple times per day). I can’t really speak on any 1 person’s circumstances, but sometimes it may come down to the little things. And I’ll mention: In my experience; anyone who doesn’t show their face in an ad even on a free site…is likely to bail last minute. It’s not like that for clients for the obvious reasons, however it IS like that for adam4adam clients. I will not see an A4A client who doesn’t have a picture, and it’s usually a bad sign if they only have 1 picture, or if all their pictures are of their dick or ass. Secondly, are you going with people who have a “name” or just a “screenname”? Someone with a name like “SexyStud4U” is going to more likely be a flake than not. That just sounds like a screenname where it’s 1st come, 1st served. And your appointment will likely be treated as such. Also, I know some clients here don’t like the sound of a deposit…but look for guys who are asking for a deposit/cancellation fee in their ad or other site. A deposit gives both clients and provide more incentive to show up. Last month, I was running a little behind to an appointment out of town, and as I was on the highway, an unexpected snow storm came and packed the roads. I had to drive like 45 mph for 30 minutes, which made me run even more late. But since the client made a deposit, he didn’t jump to conclusions and cancel out like some other guys will do (because when you think all escorts are flakes, you start to think any issue leading up to the appointment, is going to lead to a canceled visit). I eventually showed up, we had a great time, and are meeting again. Just yesterday, I had a RentMen client cancel a session with me. It was supposed to be an outcall to his hotel. I reached out the day he arrived, “do you want to meet tonight?” He says, tomorrow will be better. Tomorrow comes, I follow up to reconfirm (notice the pattern? I’m contacting him first). He seems all good to go, but then once we discuss the time frame that I’ll be arriving…he comes up with some work excuse about meetings canceled, and he’s going to try and fly back home early (which I believe might of been a lie). Just wasted my time. He’s supposed to send half cancellation fee, nothing. Then tried to make it seem like it was my fault. Idiot been kicking tires since 2020. Now his number, is on Mr. Number (the site no client wants to be on). So now, I have to go right back to what I was doing, and making sure every client knows they have to send a deposit when booking. Or cancellation fee of half if they bail.

As a follow up: there’s a truth in what you say but, some of it is on the “surface” and just for “show”. I connected with 3 Asian guys over the past year, 1 who was half, the other a client, and another who was a “down-low” escort/massage guy. Anyhow, the down-low Asian guy and I hooked up 1 on 1 before. It was a good time, and he was very into it. But, down the line we had a client 3 way, and he definitely seemed into it (client is White). Later on, I seen him out with an Asian and a group of White guys. I was like, I knew it. He’s open to a Black guy behind closed doors, but wants to display to the scene that he’s only into White guys. All too common scenario, SMH 🤦🏽‍♂️ At the same time, Asian guys can be very hard to read. They’re often super upfront, but also don’t seem to express what they want when getting to know them. That’s been my experience many times. Like, I’m not about to keep playing these games with you ✌🏾

Well, you know the market there moreso then I do, so do tell what the local providers have to say about Buffalo before I consider that! lol. However, I also would imagine its proximity to Niagara and Toronto would make it a good summer time destination at the least. But that’s also something I have to be on the watch for: seasonal cities. Umm, umm…last time I was there was around August 2019ish I believe. I’ve been out there a few times over the years, but it never grew on me in the end. North Carolina in general, it “should” be the next California or Atlanta, but it’s far too conservative and has a “vibe” I didn’t necessarily “vibe” with. That’s not a good or bad thing, just my take. The area has also become much more flaky on subsequent trips. Hence why it may be underserved. I remember a guy on here, I think Devon Hunter, who lived in Charlotte and he hated it. Probably in the same way I can’t stand my current market and want to leave like yesterday…

Good analysis, and I’ve been in that position many a times. I remember last year, I drove to Las Vegas somewhat last minute, and stayed from 10 pm to about 3 am. I wasn’t trying to get a room and spend the night because I had to be elswewhere by 5 pm the next day. It was basically a “drive thru and see my friend, and keep it moving” but I was open to see a client if one booked and was hosting. I think what’ll help, is clients should avoid “window shopping” if they aren’t prepared to meet at that moment in time. I always say: clients love to expect us to be available right away, but they would never expect to be available right away if we called them. Even if the escort says, “advanced notice only” and you are just “checking”, still be ready to book right then. You never know, if you’re available and he’s available, why not? I don’t understand some guys who lurk around the escort dens looking for basically nothing. Same with the Grindr circuit (which I logged on for the 1st time in 20 days, because I’m over THAT shit too). They aren’t really trying to connect, they just want to browse and kill time. Maybe they’ll get around to meeting, one day. I don’t have time for that. Keep it moving

lol, I’m not laughing “at you” in this post, but certainly laughing at the mutual understanding behind it all. I totally get it because often times, clients will do the same thing: call at the last minute, after I gorged myself on either food or alcoholic beverages, only to tell me, “I can’t tomorrow, I have an early flight”. Well sorry I didn’t know you even existed 2 hours ago 🤦🏽‍♂️ It all comes down to preparation though. That’s why often times I’ll post ads up long before I even have dates planned. And like @Shawn Monroesaid, even that can backfire because maybe they are looking now and not available in 2-3 weeks for shipping and handling. I just wish once again, RentMen would allow more providers to design their ad and travel city dates in a more conducive, productive way. They obligate us to put dates up, and we can only put “near travel” if it’s a city within 250 miles. Then clients get mad at me because they say, “your dates kept changing”. Well yeah, because I never intended to have a set “date”, I intended to advertise before I arrived, to allow clients to get a chance to speak with me and coordinate a date. People see a date and think, “oh you’ll be here Friday?” No…I never said that. I’m just putting a hypothetical date on an ad, and if I don’t have anything scheduled ahead of time on that date, I won’t go until a day I am comfortable with. I learned long time ago: never go to a city without at least 1, preferably 2 appointment booked ahead of time (unless you have someone you can crash at for free, otherwise you could end up wasting money before you even get your first client). There’s been a couple times I’ve been able to go somewhere with no one booked but turned out well, however it’s not something I normally do…and there was often another incentive behind it.

Yeah, I can see that. However it seems on my last couple runs, I actually did pretty okay out there. I think it might of changed up, because Albuquerque used to be a good destination for me, but now I find ABQ is usually dead and have been rude/flaky clients, whereas Santa Fe seems to be more busy. It’s crazy how these markets change. But at the end of the day, it probably is better kept as a destination versus a full move. I kinda want to move somewhere that’s a little more “normal”. Not that NM folks are abnormal, but it’s a very “niche” state. It’s a culture that idk if it’s for everybody long term. I’ve been thru that area before, Providence. Didn’t spend a whole lot of time there but wish I’d of stopped there maybe instead of Hartford Connecticut. I know I mentioned Buffalo because it’s location seems convenient to both the northeast and the Midwest (likely at the surprise of @BuffaloKyle) but Providence is probably a bit too far northeast. And idk how I’d feel living in the nation’s smallest state. At the same time I can see the appeal being between 2 megapolis’s. At the same time also: idk if I want to rely on such big cities for biz. Even “small” markets like KC and STL have far too many ads up than the city even supports. I see all these ads up and wonder why anyone bothers because there’s nothing going on out here. Just 24/7 flakes and BS.

I think at the end of the day, it‘s not going to be a direct hit on providers…thus, it’s really not likely to make any huge changes on us. You might just have to count a little bit here and there. But with the way business is so dry and dead right now in many markets; I doubt it would amount to much of anything…

Just taking a shot here: but I’m asking because I’m urgently ready to leave my current “market” this year, in exchange for a bigger or more lucrative city. It just seems harder to find apartments these days. Many of the private landlords have sold out to air bnb (and despite the practicality, a recent browse thru Chicago air bnbs gave me a less than optimistic chance that it’s a better alternative than hotels). I know there was a provider who posted his luxury unit in DC a couple years ago, but I’m just going to say straight off the bat: I wouldn’t be relocating with bank rolls. Having to regularly return to a dead market after a few days or weeks of being on tour, recurrently does damage to my finances. It’s a little harder (but generally what I’ve done) to handle bills while traveling, so when I return home and most of my tour money goes into that and I’m not getting enough bookings to make up for it, that’s just recipe for setbacks. But I won’t go too far into the logistics: I’m just ready. I’m even ready to move to a city without a place lined up. I’ve lived in a lot of cities over the years, but I don’t know why some cities are like that. You can travel thru, and do okay…but once you move there, it’s a whole different story. However, I recall Missouri not being great as far back as 2012. I used to travel thru here on the way to/from the east coast, get a hotel for the night and hardly anyone would ever show up. I’ve been residing here part-time since 2018. Some weeks I’m comfortable with the level of biz, other times it’s unsustainable and I’m out of town. And lately it’s been that way since summer ended. I’m just ready. I am not “desperate”, but I am desperate for a change. I can’t do another season, another year here. I’m hoping to be done with this place by February/March. I’m not even looking for the biggest cities, but something sustainable. I’m eyeing Seattle, Buffalo, Santa Fe, even Texas is sounding appealing as a lot of people I talk to are leaving Missouri for Texas. But, that’s also an oversaturated market. I want to make a careful next move.