Jarrod_Uncut

I'm not convinced the male sex drive needs a "funnel" to seek out real men. Unfortunately, actual physical contact is one thing AI won't be able to provide for a loooooong time.
(and when it does, there goes not only escorting, but probably dating, marriage, etc.)

It is…. But it’s a bit different for homosexual men, because dick and ass is always available. Which is why so many gay men flake out on each other… in one scenario, a gay man can be wavering between a hookup on a app, a bar/nightclub, the gym, sex party/orgy, hiring a masseur or an escort, or even public cruising. He’s always flaking for something better, because the likelihood of something better is actually possible. 
 
For a straight man, he doesn’t have many easy options for women. And many options can burn his pockets, as your average woman isn’t simply down for easy sex, especially because of the culturally imposed norms regarding a woman’s “virtue”. If he wavers for too long, he can wind up stuck with blue balls, or entertaining a lot lizard/crack whore…. LOL. 
 

This provider’s business model is “If you go into my store, you have to buy something. If you ask about a product, you have to buy it.”

So … 4% conversion (don’t know if you mean just serious leads or paying clients) 
Here are some metrics from sales professionals:
 “out of 100 leads, you can expect 2 to 5 of them to convert into paying customers” 
or this:
“According to a study by Ruler Analytics, the average conversion rate across various industries is approximately 3.2%”
(From Bloomberg Sales Metrics 2023)
Unless you’re saying you have less than 1 in 100 inquiries turning into actual closed sales I’m not sure you’re experiencing anything any sales professional doesn’t in their day to day roles.
I depend on sales for my Income and these numbers look right to me based on my experience. 
   
 
 

I think I market  myself pretty well. There’s always gonna be flakes no matter what . 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I think you’re putting the 🛒 before the…dick lol. 
 
You’re making like the escort comes to you, and then initiates contact because a client is ugly…that’s not how it works. We are not a “we buy ugly homes” model.
What actually happens is: people hit us up and most times we have no idea what they look like besides perhaps a bit of screening on age, top/Btm preference, etc. The attraction part is icing on the cake. You think if someone who looks like Beiber opened the door, I would say: “don’t worry about paying me, you’re attractive to me!” No, Beiber would be paying just like anyone else. And sometimes those types pay even more lol.
 
For me, it’s not even about looks. The attraction for me comes in the form of how attentive and desirable they are to turning me and each other on. If they seem pleased and eager to please, that’s attractive to me. However, it’s not uncommon to come across clients who are truly just hot and I enjoy myself with them. But I’m not sleeping with them because they are ugly and I’m hot: I just know they have a need to fulfill, and discretion. 
 
Rather than do the same thing with one random guy after the next on hookup apps, I find it more purposeful in what we do. Works for me because I avoid the drama and reputation of “sleeping around”  on the small world 🌎, which are hookup apps. That’s just by default, whether the client is hot or not. 

On the ethnic diversity point, yes it is a function of where you are. The Midwest USA is the least diverse area of the country.
Mapped: The Most Diverse States in the U.S.
WWW.VISUALCAPITALIST.COM In this graphic, we show the most diverse states in the U.S. based on the Census Bureau's Diversity Index.  

Yeah, he handled it better than I would have.
Then again, I have very little to lose and enjoy telling trolls to go fuck themselves  

Sorry for the delay. I missed your message.  I agree with that. Unfortunately I had an issue in 2021 where a client flew me out to TX for a three night weekend and never paid me anything. I do take responsibility for that, because it does go back to my question should I get ask for a deposit so I don’t get messed up financially. I’m fine with clients not giving me one if I know they are serious and not going to just waste our time. 
 
 
a lot of people forget  it’s not just mine time , it’s OUR time together and I want both parties to be respectful of it. It sucks haha 

If I send someone a dm on rentmen.com and block them will they still get the message if they are blocked?

While I'm conventionally attractive (not super-hot) for my age, the providers who I most enjoy bring the energy and generosity that @Jamie21 and @Jarrod_Uncut both espouse. I went for a massage yesterday, and the provider was much more attractive than his photos, which were just cute. The session went much further than a typical sensual massage because we had chemistry. Sexual chemistry is much more than appearance. It's pheromones, voice, personality, and countless other factors. We had a nice chat before and at the beginning of the massage. Afterward, we talked about how far it went, and he said he's attracted to older guys and what we liked about each other from our conversation and interaction. This was not romantic, but it was enjoyable for both of us.  
For me, if clients hire only "10s" who are likely obsessed with appearance and also go in thinking, "A guy that looks like this would never fuck me," then that will be your experience. If you hire attractive guys who also enjoy their work, love providing pleasure and find a variety of types attractive, your experience will be different.

Well, I could claim that I'm a dead ringer for Jacob Elordi and all you have to go on is my word. "Conventional standards" for what passes as hot - particularly Insta models - are actually guys who are taking steroids, HGH, and have eating disorders. Over the past 20 years, men have begun to show disordered eating and body dysmorphia at rates comparable to women. 

That’s it, from someone @Jarrod_Uncutwho knows. Ask most guys who do sex work and they’ll say similar. It’s got nothing to do with looks or whether the client is ‘hot’ (however that’s defined, here I’m using it conventionally as in someone most people would say is attractive) or not. 
I get hired by all sorts of guys, old, young, large, small, able bodied, disabled, hot and not hot. In most instances I don’t know until they walk the door. If they’re attracted by me (and they’ve seen my advert, my pics, read about me etc so I’m assuming there’s at least a superficial attraction otherwise they wouldn’t be here) then that’s a turn on for me. If they become more turned on during the session, by what I’m doing then that’s even more of a turn on. And so the more fun they have with me the better it is.
Absolutely nothing to do with looks. I’ve filmed porn with some of the most attractive guys in terms of looks and there’s been hardly any sexual energy…that’s hard work! It’s not what you look like it’s what you do that’s sexy.
I’ll be confident that any provider who’s done this work for any decent length of time will say the same. Client looks is irrelevant. Client behaviour is what matters. 
 
 

I think you’re putting the 🛒 before the…dick lol. 
 
You’re making like the escort comes to you, and then initiates contact because a client is ugly…that’s not how it works. We are not a “we buy ugly homes” model.
What actually happens is: people hit us up and most times we have no idea what they look like besides perhaps a bit of screening on age, top/Btm preference, etc. The attraction part is icing on the cake. You think if someone who looks like Beiber opened the door, I would say: “don’t worry about paying me, you’re attractive to me!” No, Beiber would be paying just like anyone else. And sometimes those types pay even more lol.
 
For me, it’s not even about looks. The attraction for me comes in the form of how attentive and desirable they are to turning me and each other on. If they seem pleased and eager to please, that’s attractive to me. However, it’s not uncommon to come across clients who are truly just hot and I enjoy myself with them. But I’m not sleeping with them because they are ugly and I’m hot: I just know they have a need to fulfill, and discretion. 
 
Rather than do the same thing with one random guy after the next on hookup apps, I find it more purposeful in what we do. Works for me because I avoid the drama and reputation of “sleeping around”  on the small world 🌎, which are hookup apps. That’s just by default, whether the client is hot or not. 

I think you’re putting the 🛒 before the…dick lol. 
 
You’re making like the escort comes to you, and then initiates contact because a client is ugly…that’s not how it works. We are not a “we buy ugly homes” model.
What actually happens is: people hit us up and most times we have no idea what they look like besides perhaps a bit of screening on age, top/Btm preference, etc. The attraction part is icing on the cake. You think if someone who looks like Beiber opened the door, I would say: “don’t worry about paying me, you’re attractive to me!” No, Beiber would be paying just like anyone else. And sometimes those types pay even more lol.
 
For me, it’s not even about looks. The attraction for me comes in the form of how attentive and desirable they are to turning me and each other on. If they seem pleased and eager to please, that’s attractive to me. However, it’s not uncommon to come across clients who are truly just hot and I enjoy myself with them. But I’m not sleeping with them because they are ugly and I’m hot: I just know they have a need to fulfill, and discretion. 
 
Rather than do the same thing with one random guy after the next on hookup apps, I find it more purposeful in what we do. Works for me because I avoid the drama and reputation of “sleeping around”  on the small world 🌎, which are hookup apps. That’s just by default, whether the client is hot or not. 

I think you’re putting the 🛒 before the…dick lol. 
 
You’re making like the escort comes to you, and then initiates contact because a client is ugly…that’s not how it works. We are not a “we buy ugly homes” model.
What actually happens is: people hit us up and most times we have no idea what they look like besides perhaps a bit of screening on age, top/Btm preference, etc. The attraction part is icing on the cake. You think if someone who looks like Beiber opened the door, I would say: “don’t worry about paying me, you’re attractive to me!” No, Beiber would be paying just like anyone else. And sometimes those types pay even more lol.
 
For me, it’s not even about looks. The attraction for me comes in the form of how attentive and desirable they are to turning me and each other on. If they seem pleased and eager to please, that’s attractive to me. However, it’s not uncommon to come across clients who are truly just hot and I enjoy myself with them. But I’m not sleeping with them because they are ugly and I’m hot: I just know they have a need to fulfill, and discretion. 
 
Rather than do the same thing with one random guy after the next on hookup apps, I find it more purposeful in what we do. Works for me because I avoid the drama and reputation of “sleeping around”  on the small world 🌎, which are hookup apps. That’s just by default, whether the client is hot or not. 

This makes me wonder how attractive or pleasant you are IRL. You seem to think if you weren't paying, the providers you engage would cross the street to avoid you.
But I think a lot of us have nice, collegial, and enjoyable conversations and time spent with providers. Do you assume everyone you hire is not attracted to you? In my experience, some guys seem genuinely attracted, and others seem to enjoy our company. We don't hire again if we don't get either of those vibes. 
But this is part and parcel of some clients' views that men are solely visually attracted and that attraction is only skin deep. Attraction is complex. In some cases, a guy who is interesting or can make me laugh becomes sexually desirable, and that's not accounting for pheromones, sexual chemistry, etc., all of which are not primarily based on appearance. 

Which massage sites do you refer to? Because I know on RentMasseur, one can disable email messages accordingly. And of course it’s definitely not 1999 lol, however email is still the shit: in the form of instant messaging. Now THAT was the shit I remember lol. 
 
I can do RentMasseur emails, but not so much RentM instant messages. I always try to send at least 1 reply even after my auto message goes out: just to let them know I’m real. But not many seem to transition to phone. I won’t use messenger solely to book an appointment. 
 
I rarely ever take unexpected phone calls from my ads anymore. Too many times, I’ve been sucked into chatting with someone or asked explicit questions when it was off timing. So even though people may have preference to call, it doesn’t suit everyone.

I recently encountered a visiting provider to Chicago who refused to list his phone number, and would only use RM Messenger.
That was a red flag, especially since a quick search on CoM revealed that he has a habit of lying to future customers.

And then there's another old saying...
'Some of us get paid to stay.  We get paid a lot to stay.'

As I've mentioned, I almost always hire for 2 hours -  2 orgasms separated by relaxation and conversation.
 
Personally, I enjoy just letting the providers talk. A lot of them like to tell stories (with no names, of course), and quite a few got me to ROFL. Laughter is truly the ultimate aphrodisiac.

^Agree. This is work for us, NOT a vacation. Part of that work is making it seem as though it is. A true vacation to me is going where I want, with who I want, when I want, and I am paying for it with my own money because I value and choose everything about the experience and do not have to perform anything for anyone, or be beholden to anyone for my time or attention or sex.
Good for you @Thelatin for finding an arrangement with two guys you like for such a relatively low cost. I understand it may be a big total dollar amount out of your pocket for the three days, but it’s actually a low fee per day per person when you break it down. If it works for them and for you, great. For me, I stand to make the same or more over three days taking several clients without having to entertain nearly 24/7, so the economics of it make less sense for me.
I couldn’t do a “vacation”, however glamorous it may be, for $500/day… I currently charge $500 for two hours which my good clients regularly pay without hesitation. I charge $1k for five hours. Some of my select long term loyal clients I will do more like 7-8 hours +/- for $1k. That’s in line with what you’re paying for TWO guys, and you’re getting the extra benefit of nearly 24/7 company from each. Wowza.
The meals and drinks, etc are not part of our compensation, by the way. Sure it costs you and it feels like you’re treating us, but that’s just a necessary and customary cost of longer term hiring. Feeling like you’re treating us is part of the emotional benefit to you. Not that we don’t enjoy food, beverages, sometimes gifts and so on, but we can’t pay our bills with meals and drinks we consume with our client or an article of clothing he buys for us during an afternoon out. All of these things are for the benefit of the client, to enrich his overall experience, to make him feel great, as much as some of it is a practical matter for us. We all have to eat.
All that said, I really enjoy longer term hires. The best ones are clients with whom I’ve built up a good working relationship over many shorter hires. They say it’s worth every penny and more. It’s like giving someone the best day (weekend, week, whatever) of their life. Or at least the best day they have had in a long time. For some, it’s once. For others, it’s once a month. For all, it’s special.

I just spent 5 nights at an airbnb with 2 providers.  I spent 3000 on them, plus paid for the dinners, booze etc. 
It’s all about what each party wants.  It was a “vacation” for them.  Plus they made a bit of bank. 
We are planning our next trip. 

…and not to seem unappreciative of the hourly/under $500 bookings. But:
I had a booking over the weekend that was a longer visit over 1,000. I only had 1 other visit like that all year, and it makes a big difference.
I know $250+ is a lot for most dudes to give for an “experience” anyway, but I had to run it by someone who sees me occasionally the other day: Higher amount bookings tend to be the most important thing to biz, next to regulars of course. Some of these guys only want to throw a couple hundred bucks, but they’ll talk all about how they spent $1,000 on this, or $2,000 on that luxury like it’s nothing. Which is fine, it’s their money and prerogative…
But at the same time, I can’t always multiply 200 or 300 by 5 clients in a week. Especially in markets that already have plenty of new and local escorts and masseurs, but not really enough clients to go around. So as I explained to someone the other day, “I feel like you expect me to feel asking $250/$300 is too expensive”. What if that is the only booking I have that weekend, or in some cases the whole week? Figure out how to make that last. It really doesn’t.
I know some clients probably don’t wish to spend an overnight or two days with someone. But it’s looking really attractive to go the longer session only route when doing certain bookings/locations. Like lately, I’m cutting back on the “go to a city and see 5 clients” because that’s not really always the turn out. Even after  sifting thru 1,000 messages. If they haven’t texted and done what’s needed to confirm, most times it’s just inquiries and guys bullshitting around…
So 5 “clients” could end up only being 1 actually booking (true story last month in one city, but fortunately it was an extended time booking). 

…and not to seem unappreciative of the hourly/under $500 bookings. But:
I had a booking over the weekend that was a longer visit over 1,000. I only had 1 other visit like that all year, and it makes a big difference.
I know $250+ is a lot for most dudes to give for an “experience” anyway, but I had to run it by someone who sees me occasionally the other day: Higher amount bookings tend to be the most important thing to biz, next to regulars of course. Some of these guys only want to throw a couple hundred bucks, but they’ll talk all about how they spent $1,000 on this, or $2,000 on that luxury like it’s nothing. Which is fine, it’s their money and prerogative…
But at the same time, I can’t always multiply 200 or 300 by 5 clients in a week. Especially in markets that already have plenty of new and local escorts and masseurs, but not really enough clients to go around. So as I explained to someone the other day, “I feel like you expect me to feel asking $250/$300 is too expensive”. What if that is the only booking I have that weekend, or in some cases the whole week? Figure out how to make that last. It really doesn’t.
I know some clients probably don’t wish to spend an overnight or two days with someone. But it’s looking really attractive to go the longer session only route when doing certain bookings/locations. Like lately, I’m cutting back on the “go to a city and see 5 clients” because that’s not really always the turn out. Even after  sifting thru 1,000 messages. If they haven’t texted and done what’s needed to confirm, most times it’s just inquiries and guys bullshitting around…
So 5 “clients” could end up only being 1 actually booking (true story last month in one city, but fortunately it was an extended time booking).