Jamie21

I’ve had guys enquire about booking me to massage their wife, as a surprise. Sometimes they ask about giving her a gift card so she can book a massage. It almost never works out because a) often it’s his fantasy not hers or b) I don’t go surprises so I need to speak to her to book the session which rather makes the surprise gift part of it pointless. I don’t do gift cards because of this. It’s such a personal service that the buyer really needs to make the decision themselves not have someone else decide for them. Best to give your beneficiary the money direct and recommend the provider that they spend it on. Then they genuinely have a choice.

So would I…. and to hear if he was dressed and making payment 15 minutes after full penetration. It sounds like the drive through fast food end of the market.

He’s a pro 😉. I’ve used that line once or twice….

I really don’t care what the Pope thinks, says or does. He’s only the Pope because people make him so. I don’t accept that he has any say whether a man can marry another man. The Church (any Church) only exists because some people want to exert control over others using things like threats, coercion, stories, social control and guilt.

Best to be vegetarian. 90% of the choices are off the menu for you. Much simpler.

Yes I agree. I also find that immediately afterwards there’s a demand spike. As if having spent time with family or unwillingly been exposed to solitude people want a little escape.

My clients are international. Being based in London I get a lot of US visitors, and the Middle East as well as Brits. I’d say the most pushy as to availability are the Middle Eastern clients who seem to like to pick times that aren’t available. As in: Client: “when are you available tomorrow?” Me: “I’m available between 11am and 2pm, or 4pm to 8pm”. Client: “I book an hour at 6pm” Me: “I cant do 6pm” …..and so it goes on with me suggesting available times and him asking for days or times I can’t do. Eventually if we do set a time then he’ll move it by 15 minutes. I think these clients just enjoy the haggle. They could reach agreement quickly but that feels like they haven’t achieved anything so they turn the booking into a haggle. At the session they’re usually very deferential indeed (and super inhibited), but that’s a different topic!

My experience is that pushy clients are extremely rare. If I say I’m not available then they take it as that and either ask for a different day or just say ‘thanks’. Maybe my experience is unusual but I doubt it. The ‘pushy’ client is not really a thing. In fact most clients are more on the deferential, non assuming kind.

Doing this kind of work it is easy to get drawn into saying “yes” to all requests for bookings because you don’t want to turn down the business (you never know when the clients might stop coming). But I’ve found it’s important to draw some boundaries and keep some time sacrosanct for yourself. So whilst I’m happy to see clients on Christmas Eve, I’ll not take any bookings for 25th or 26th.

Yes exactly. There’s practical considerations. Occasionally I get a client who, during the session, indicates a desire to top me. It’s possibly something they hadn’t considered beforehand or they had considered it but were too embarrassed to ask in the ‘cold light of day’, but now here in the moment they desperately want to top me. I have to say ‘no sorry not possible this time because I’m not ready’, which takes a bit of heat out of the moment unfortunately. I don’t mention extra charge for it at that point although I recall one client who in the middle of the session, when I’d said he couldn’t top, say to me he’d pay whatever I asked. I said ‘no, it hasn’t been agreed beforehand’ but he kept asking and offering more money. I told him he’d need to book another session for that but he never did. I’m sure that it was more to do with the power dynamic in the moment of him buying something he couldn’t have than him really wanting to top me. I’m totally fine to bottom for clients but only if it has been discussed beforehand so that I can be prepared and so that I can charge the correct rate. If I’ve been bred by a client I sometimes douche afterwards to clean out. No risk of leakage then.

Or maybe he was desperate 😂

Best to cancel. If you don’t feel well you won’t enjoy the massage, especially if you have a temperature. I don’t mind clients cancelling if they’re unwell. may have mentioned this before but I had a client turn up one time with broken ribs. How he expected me to massage him I don’t know…(he did say “can you just do my bottom half…so actually perhaps I do know what he wanted 😂). I had to send him away to come back when he’s better. Apart from anything else I don’t want to injure him or make things worse.

I’m told to get lost sometimes but I think that’s different?

Yes you’d never find someone from Scotland or Wales speaking with an RP accent unless it was taught to them. RP is not something you hear much these days. When Her Majesty was alive you’d hear it in her Christmas speech but that’s about it. The BBC used to require presenters use it but that’s long gawn 😂. My accent is a London accent. There’s lots of different London accents. Indeed you can go a few miles down the road in some places in the UK and the accent will be different. British people can tell where you’re from quite accurately by the local accent ….but more importantly it’s also a sign of class: very important to know what class the person you’re speaking to is so you can offer tea in the correct way.

Most of the time I don’t bottom but if I am going to then I use a shower attachment if it’s a filming session or I if know the top is big or I’m at a party. I then use a bulb about half hour before just to be confident really. Otherwise if he’s smaller or it’s a quick one then I just use the bulb. I agree with @Funguy it’s a problem if water goes too deep when using the shower. I insert and count to 5 to avoid using too much water. That usually works ok. Diet also helps. But even with a tried and tested routine sometimes things still go wrong!

I hope I have the pleasure of meeting you @Vin_Marco… (spoken in a cut glass English accent 😉).

I have no jewellery whatsoever. No rings, no chains, no watches, no ear rings, nose studs or PA. Since I carried a phone I’ve never seen the point of having a watch, unless it’s some kind of health device to measure physical performance. I used to have a gold chain with a gold cross. I’m not religious so I don’t know why I had the cross but it looked nice so I wore it on the chain. Many years ago I was at a sauna (yes, that kind of sauna). At that time I was very inexperienced (honest!) but on this occasion I hooked up with a very attractive older guy who shall we say introduced me to bottoming. Up to then I was always 100% top. Anyhow, this session with the guy happened in a fairly dark cabin. Normally I prefer to see (and be seen ha ha) but he was insistent we shut the door. I won’t describe the sex because that’s not the point but suffice to say I got introduced to taking it. After he had left I spent some minutes alone in the cabin. At this point I realised I no longer had the chain with the cross on. I felt around in the gloom in case it had fallen off but I didn’t find it. So I opened the door to let more light in: still couldn’t see any chain or cross. Outside I couldn’t find my suitor either. I assume that either I’d lost the chain before going in the cabin with him or he took more from me in that session than I had bargained for.

It works better if you’re new in a small town. All the locals, bored of the same pictures coming up on their grid suddenly see ‘new meat’ 😂. When I used Grindr (before I was banned- thankfully) it was useful only when on holiday to somewhere new. Otherwise it’s definitely a time waster.

If on an outcall to a hotel, walk in as if you own the place. Look like you’re absolutely meant to be there. Understand where the lifts are (elevator to those who don’t speak the King’s English 😉) so that you’re not wandering around looking lost. Also know where the most discreet place to sit is if you’re requested to wait in the lobby, and know where the toilets are so that you can freshen up before meeting the client. If it’s a new hotel to you then it’s useful to scout the place out beforehand should the opportunity arise.

Thank you for educating me! I thought I was experienced in this industry but perhaps not… And I really appreciate the lack of a picture. The one in my mind is enough.

I may be naive here but what is a bumpkin? (Asking myself do I really want to know?)

Good question! I recall one time with a client who had just finished douching when I arrived. I half expected there to be a problem because of that…and indeed there was. So we just cleaned up and he said he’d do another douche. That didn’t help either! It has also happened to me when bottoming for a client so I’m totally understanding of the challenges. I think a good rule to have is to douche early enough because if you’re preparing just before the appointment it’s probably too late. There’s lots of advice on here about that kind of thing so I’m not going to repeat that here. What I will say is that ‘shit happens’ so no one should make a big deal about it. Usually if it’s just a little bit I clean off and carry on (but I’m not doing any rimming after that!).

Oh…I have leg month. Is that enough?

Keep records. Date, time, what the client liked (and didn’t like), what happened etc. Just brief notes, so that should the client book again, possibly years later, you know what gets them going. All GDPR compliant of course (for the non European’s that’s data protection rules 🙂). When you see lots of clients over time it’s easy to forget some or become muddled up with who is who, even to become a bit blasé about things. But to some clients, if they don’t hire very often or especially if it’s their first time, their experience with you is a milestone and they’ll remember it vividly. If they come back then you really want them to feel that you remember them. Usually the notes are enough to remind me….’ah yes, he really likes head massage and he was going to the theatre after our booking: I’ll include more head massage and ask him if he enjoyed the show’.

Never initiate contact with a client. The first contact is always down to the client and any messages sent are in response to client questions or requests. I always assume that the client wants 100% discretion from me. Similarly if you see a client in public do not initiate contact, nor show any signs that you know them. Let them initiate any contact.