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I ran into a client at a naked beach in Mykonos one time. He was with his partner. It didn’t seem to be a problem.
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There’s really no excuse for it. Have a shower beforehand. In my experience though it’s rare. I can think of a few times clients haven’t been clean and I’ve simply not gone anywhere near their bum (even after discreetly wiping them).
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Rate question (no its not what you think)
+ Jamie21 replied to BeefyDude's topic in Questions About Hiring
I’ll consider it because I get payment via the subscribers to the film we shoot, so I’m not doing it for free. This is my work. Suppose your boss said to you one day “business is quiet so can you work for 20% less today?”. Would you feel like your boss valued your work? Clients can ask for discounts of course. They’ll rationalise it: ‘he won’t mind’, ‘he’s only a sex worker so he doesn’t really matter’, ‘he’s probably desperate for any money so I can get away with asking for a discount’, ‘I’ll feel like I got one up on him’, ‘I deserve it’….all sorts of reasons to justify it to themselves. The response is always ‘no sorry no discount’. -
Rate question (no its not what you think)
+ Jamie21 replied to BeefyDude's topic in Questions About Hiring
I offer it, if the client wants me to use the bed. It’s their massage so their choice. Only on out calls though, if you come to me then I’ll use a table or there’s the Futon option (firmer than a bed). Sometimes it’s impractical to use a table on an out call (space restrictions, or the client doesn’t want me turning up with a table!). I agree though that it’s not really a massage and it does bring some postural issues for the masseur. You aswell? The image is vivid. -
Rate question (no its not what you think)
+ Jamie21 replied to BeefyDude's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s one way of looking at it! I’d say if you’re that enamoured then pony up the money 😂. For me it sometimes happens that he sends a pic and expects I’ll be so attracted to it that I’ll offer services for free. But in those instances it’s a ‘no sorry, this isn’t Grindr’. However I do sometimes suggest to those guys that if they’re happy to be filmed as a volunteer in my massage porn movies on justforfans then that’s possible (subject to release forms etc). -
Providers - how often do you get stiffed?
+ Jamie21 replied to + DrownedBoy's topic in Questions About Hiring
Happened to me recently. I don’t think he intentionally did it. Was an out call to his hotel, a visitor to London from China. He offered payment by card at the start but I never accept payment until afterwards (it kills the vibe I think). So we finish the session and he’s very happy, he inserts his card but it’s declined. So I suggest another card (after trying twice) but he doesn’t have one, nor any cash. There’s a language issue too. In the end I sent a PayPal request but he couldn’t settle that immediately either. After that I gave up. It’s never happened to me before and I put it down to experience, because there were a couple of red flags. Strange thing is he’s not blocked me and replies to my chaser for setting the PayPal request by promising he’ll do it shortly. I think there is an issue for him regarding using his Chinese card. Anyway, I’ve written off the money (don’t tell him!). -
Rate question (no its not what you think)
+ Jamie21 replied to BeefyDude's topic in Questions About Hiring
I get asked for discounts…the answer is always ‘no’. Usually the client goes away without booking which is good because I don’t want to see them. In the instances when they do book (paying the normal rate) there’s usually hassle: they either cancel last minute, turn up late or when it comes to paying their credit card doesn’t work etc. There’s always some drama to their session. Asking for a discount is a red flag to me. If my rate is too much for you by asking for a discount what you’re effectively saying to me is “I don’t think you’re worth what you think you’re worth”. That’s not a good start and in my experience it doesn’t improve so that’s why discount requests result in no booking. There’s enough clients out there who will pay the rate so why reduce it? -
How do you feel about providers wearing jewelry ?
+ Jamie21 replied to Ali Gator's topic in Questions About Hiring
I did hear of a fellow provider losing a ring whilst fisting a client (you can insert your own jokes here about the client’s ring). I was told that he was sure he had the ring on his pinkie finger when the fist went in…but it wasn’t there when his hand came out. I think it’s apocryphal…. -
Longer session clients are golden…wish there was more
+ Jamie21 replied to TallMuscl37's topic in Questions About Hiring
That’s it, from someone @Jarrod_Uncutwho knows. Ask most guys who do sex work and they’ll say similar. It’s got nothing to do with looks or whether the client is ‘hot’ (however that’s defined, here I’m using it conventionally as in someone most people would say is attractive) or not. I get hired by all sorts of guys, old, young, large, small, able bodied, disabled, hot and not hot. In most instances I don’t know until they walk the door. If they’re attracted by me (and they’ve seen my advert, my pics, read about me etc so I’m assuming there’s at least a superficial attraction otherwise they wouldn’t be here) then that’s a turn on for me. If they become more turned on during the session, by what I’m doing then that’s even more of a turn on. And so the more fun they have with me the better it is. Absolutely nothing to do with looks. I’ve filmed porn with some of the most attractive guys in terms of looks and there’s been hardly any sexual energy…that’s hard work! It’s not what you look like it’s what you do that’s sexy. I’ll be confident that any provider who’s done this work for any decent length of time will say the same. Client looks is irrelevant. Client behaviour is what matters. -
Absolutely he does, he advertises a second cumming.
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You can slip it in anywhere, I’m not fussy……….Same applies to the tip 😂
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No you didn’t. You met someone pretending to be an escort. A proper escort would not have behaved like that. If you did anything wrong it was probably when you decided to hire him because it seems you didn’t hire a professional. Sorry it happened to you.
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What does Erotic Massage Include
+ Jamie21 replied to acaressandakiss's topic in Questions About Hiring
Yes this is highly regulated. The Association for Sexwork Knowledge (ASK) has a pamphlet that stipulates the exact content of an erotic massage. The pamphlet describes that all erotic massages must include at least 3 touches of the client’s genitals (and the final or 3rd touch has to keep hold until the client climaxes or the time runs out). A minimum of one nipple must be tweaked and at least one ball gently cupped or caressed. If the client has a non standard number of nipples or balls the masseur has to ensure that 50% of the total ball / nipples available have to be touched. Clients with a preference for bum work should indicate this either verbally or by parting their legs wider than table width. If the client does this then the pamphlet requires that the masseur insert a lubed finger (spit acceptable if no lube is available) past the first knuckle. The pamphlet is called Hire for Intimate Massage. In short it’s the ASK HIM document 😉 -
Tipping is definitely welcome in London. Particularly in the area of my studio. Inside it in fact. In my hand. 😉
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Although having said I start with the scalp I realise that actually I don’t start there. When my client is laid on the table, for sensual massage I start in their head.. mean in their brain. That’s where a lot is going on especially if they’re anxious or they just arrived after a day at work or after a long journey. So I start by leaning in, whispering in their ear some words (come for a massage and find out what I say 😉) …and then I ask them to breathe deeply for a few long slow breaths where we coordinate our breathing. Only then, once my client is calm does any pressure touch begin. If they’re not relaxed the muscles are too tense so I find the best place to work on first is their mind. Get in there and you’re going to give a great massage 🙂
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Most Annoying Masseur Behavior You've Experienced
+ Jamie21 replied to + Just Chuck's topic in Questions About Hiring
I once booked a massage with a masseur at his home, without checking much into his set up or professionalism. I was young and naive, and this was before I actually joined the profession myself (call it my research years). I turned up at the address given. It seemed ok. The masseur answered the door (I’d seen no pics of him, only a description and an outline of his services). He didn’t match the description but I was too scared to walk away…so I went in. He was very friendly, indeed he was delighted to see me. I’ve written in more detail about it before so I won’t relay the whole story but the following behaviour occurred: - Using his loft (attic), a windowless cramped space accessed from the bathroom by a pull down loft ladder as his massage space. It didn’t quite have the right ambiance. - Letting me know, mid massage, that his wife would be home soon and I wasn’t to worry because she couldn’t get up the ladder… - Talking almost all the way through about how he wasn’t really gay but he liked massaging guys whilst he was naked. The massage was mediocre, the ending wasn’t very happy and his wife called up from the bottom of the loft ladder if I’d like a cup of tea. I didn’t return to him. The tea was too weak. -
If you ever visit London…
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Yes it is, although at my massage studio there’s no bed! So it has to be the table.
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I did a collab with him about 18m ago for our respective fans sites. Nice guy.
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Agree! And it’s about the position, generally I prefer to ride it if it’s a big one because I can be in control of the pace and depth, at least initially. In some cases small dicks can be difficult. I had a client who was quite overweight and his dick was small, I guess around 2 inches? He’d booked a massage and wanted to top me during the massage. This is fairly unusual because if clients do want an escort type session they’re usually bottom….(or they turn into a bottom on the day 😂) My client hadn’t mentioned anything about his size (dick or body) when booking so I was surprised when he turned up as he was really large and I wondered how he’d fit on the table. He seemed quite anxious and shy so I tried to make him relaxed and we started with a cuddle before he got on the table. Fortunately my table is quite wide and electrically adjustable (I can raise and lower it using a foot pad) so I lowered it a bit for him to get on see that he fits ok. I then raise it up to the correct height (where my crotch is beside his hand at his side 😉) and we begin the massage with him face down on the table. With larger guys it can be quite challenging to get to certain areas and I find that this guy’s no different. Even with his legs spread to the width of the table I couldn’t easily massage his bum hole or dick and balls. After a while I ask him to turn over to his back. As he turns I see he’s hard but it’s not very big. I’d planned to mount the table and ride him but I realise that might not be possible. I tried to get on the table from the side but it was difficult because there wasn’t much space either side of his waist to kneel, so I went to the legs end and knelt between his knees to suck him for a bit while I worked out how I was going to get him inside me. I did try cowboy but kneeling on the table meant I had to squeeze his waist in either side and that caused his cock to disappear into the flesh so I couldn’t get it in me. We tried a couple of times and just managed to get it in but as soon as I started to ride it fell out. So I lowered the table right down and stood on the floor either side of the table. This was ok as he did get in but with my legs so far apart and his belly in the way it wasn’t comfortable. I then turned around to face away from him which was better but still challenging to keep it in. I thought it best to ask him if there was a position he preferred but he said he didn’t know. I’m guessing he’d not had sex before… so I suggested that I lay across the table on my back, he stand at the side and I lift my legs. I’d thought I could put my legs on his shoulders but that didn’t give him enough depth…so for those familiar with yoga I assumed the ‘happy baby’ pose and that seemed to give him enough space to get it in (he held up his belly with his hands) and it didn’t take long for him to cum which was fortunate because my happy baby isn’t a position I like to keep for too long 🙂. I was glad we managed to get there because he seemed delighted by the session. Nothing was said about his size by him or me. I think he was self conscious about it so I tried to make sure he knew it didn’t matter. Must be difficult for him wanting to top but facing those physical challenges.
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When clients book with me, sometimes months in advance, then it’s booked: I’ll be available and expecting them. At the time of booking the client gets my address, directions (or if it’s an outcall I just ask for their location), and all the info they need, and I tell them I’ll confirm all still ok with them the day before. This ‘day before’ confirmation is important because it serves as a reminder and ensures that I screen out anyone flaky before the actual day. If they don’t respond to the day before confirmation then I cancel it. If you’re having booking confusion with your masseur or escort then that’s a sign that they’re just playing at the job, they’ll be indifferent to you and it will probably be a bad experience. Don’t hire guys who are messing you around.
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That might offer reassurance (someone with recent test results would appear to take their sexual health seriously) but of course even if the results are a week old they’re not any guarantee he’s free from any sexually transmitted disease. I think the best thing to do is protect yourself and not worry about what anyone else is doing or says they’re doing. Stay safe and rest regularly!
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Whether or not he’s on Prep shouldn’t affect your approach. Prep protects him, not you. Nor should you take as definitive anything he says because you can’t prove he’s on Prep, you’re just taking him at his word and that’s a lot of trust for something so critical to your health. Because of my work I take Prep daily and I really can’t imagine why anyone doing sex work wouldn’t be on Prep unless they’ve a health issue that prevents them taking it. All of the guys I know who do similar work are on it. They also include it in their advertising. It’s free here in UK and I get tested regularly (also free) to ensure it’s safe for me to use.
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Providers not responding? Am I blacklisted?
+ Jamie21 replied to afterfallhours1's topic in Questions About Hiring
Most clients don’t provide any of that information and that’s fine by me because I don’t need it. All I need to know is when they want, how long, and what their name is. I definitely don’t want a picture.
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The Company of Men
C/O RadioRob Enterprises
3296 N Federal Hwy #11104
Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33306
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