Jamie21

I know this is switching it around (as in this is the client’s requirement of the provider) but I have a client who doesn’t want me hygienic; he specifically wants me to not shower beforehand, not wear deodorant and be a bit sweaty (maybe after a gym session) when I meet him. He likes that musty sweaty smell.

Is that a thing?

That’s the great thing about guys making their own porn. People of all shapes, sizes and age can make it and find an audience. Studios wouldn’t make it because they’d perceive it as being too niche, probably correctly because most porn features traditionally hot looking guys, but there is a market for non ‘stereotype’ look and it’s fantastic that guys can make it. I make porn with a range of different guys, some of them have the usual type of body you see on porn, but others are more average looking. I can see that the films featuring ‘hot’ guys are usually more popular. You generally need at least 2 of 3 things: a hot body, a pretty face, a big cock (or bubble butt). One of the 3 is ok. None of them? That’s a struggle…then we’re talking about a niche market (such as the fat guy, or someone with a tiny cock, or some kind of disability). There will still be a market for those but it’s not as big as the mainstream market. If you want to make money at it you need to pitch to the mainstream or be right at the top of the alternative market.

This. If you’re happy then so am I.

Most of my clients are middle of the day bookings between 11am and 4pm is most frequently booked. Sometimes it’s also the 5pm to 7pm slot too, which is known in France as Cinq et Sept. The traditional time when men see their mistress after work before they head home to the wife. “Hello dear I’ll be home just after 7, it’s been a busy day at the office and the trains are delayed”….

It’s the law here. Tea must be provided

I love the depiction of imperial as ‘normal’ 🙂. Height should be in feet and inches. Distance in miles unless I’m running then it’s in kilometres. Weight is in imperial (stone) if it’s a body or kilos if it’s on a barbell. And …Cock size is always in inches…. I know what 8 inches feels like but 20.3 cm is just unknowable.

Ha ha there’s shit everywhere…sounds like the time I hadn’t douched properly 😳😳😳. Seriously though I guess it’s not about winning and losing. It’s just about opinions!

It wasn’t always the way. I used to be very looks oriented. Then I started to do this sex work and making porn, and I learned that once you got over the initial looks attraction there’s a lot more to sexual attraction than looks. I think it’s about attitude and confidence plus stuff I really can’t describe (if I knew what it was I’d bottle it!). So I think it’s a learned skill. You probably need a bit of an aptitude for it of course but I’m sure it can be learned.

‘Are selfish’ - an extreme. ’only a hookup’ - an extreme. You’re misrepresenting comments by making them extreme and binary so that you can argue the opposite and cause conflict. I see what you’re doing and I feel foolish for falling for it. So let me say this - actually I totally agree with you. You’re 100% right in everything you say.

I did already know that. I’m glad it isn’t everyone’s model (that’s an extreme) because I don’t want the competition!

Oh god I seem to have ended up in one of those Twitter exchanges where all nuance and shades of grey are lost and things are binary… I’m not on Grindr.

I don’t think it’s right to describe someone as disgusting! Not to your liking or attraction yes.., but to describe someone is disgusting? I have to say when I hear something like that it says a lot about the view of the person saying it. Yes, there are. I wouldn’t call them sex workers though, especially those looking to monetise their sex life. I still argue those guys will be paying attention to their own gratification during your session rather than being focused on your enjoyment. If you’re ok with that then go with it, but don’t complain if he treated it like a Grindr hookup. Yes I agree, it doesn’t mean that. I looked back and I don’t see that I wrote that they were ‘malignant narcissists’. I don’t know where you got it from? Everyone has limits, but I still argue that true a sex worker’s limits will be of a behaviour and attitude kind rather than a physical kind. I don’t mind about someone’s physical appearance but I do have limits about their attitude and behaviour. Anyone who is ignorant, disrespectful, arrogant, dismissive or entitled won’t be seen. If somehow they do get through they get as little as possible and won’t come back. Fortunately these kind of people reveal themselves very easily, as is evident.

Those guys haven’t quite got the idea of what the job is. Definitely right to move on. Sometimes I get clients sending me a description of themselves and they ask if they’re suitable to book. They might even include a photo. They have this perception that they need to be ‘fit’ to come for a session. I tell them they only need to be healthy, as in no health conditions that might be a problem, but that their physical appearance is immaterial. This belief that you need to be conventionally fit arises because so many bad sex workers have criteria or age caps on who they will see. I don’t think those guys are worth booking. Your session will be all about them.

I’ve an out call regular client who sometimes bakes a cake and we have it with some tea after the session. The cake is delicious. It’s nice to have a chat over tea and a slice of whatever he has made. He’s an interesting guy. I appreciate his custom.

A young therapist presumably? 😉

I really don’t need or want clients to send me pictures. I kind of like the surprise when I open the door. When someone turns up I’d not mistake them for Amazon or a pizza delivery guy. The former tends to dump his parcel outside and if I mistook the latter then it would be a great porn scene wouldn’t it? 🙂 Seriously though, if it makes a client feel better to send a pic then I’m not going to refuse it…but I won’t comment on it. I just say thanks.

I’m not bothered to know what they look like although sometimes clients will send a picture. I can make guesses by the way they book (no one under 40 will book by phone call for example) or by language used when messaging. Clients do sometimes ask “was I what you expected?” or something along those lines. It’s difficult to answer. What do you say? “No I was hoping for George Clooney” or “well at least you’ve got a pulse so that’s something” or “there’s so much more of you than I expected”. The truth is it really doesn’t matter. As @Simon Suracisays it’s not a consideration beyond practicalities. I care that they’re a nice person and that they have a great time. More important is the environment we’re using. That’s much more of a consideration. The room has to be suitable so I do much more thinking about that than I do the actual client I’m meeting.

I much prefer to use a table but on out calls some clients simply don’t have space for the table or they specifically want to use the bed. If they’re paying then I think it’s their prerogative to choose but I always suggest it’s a better massage experience on the table. Some people aren’t too bothered about the massage experience though and are more interested in other aspects…

Even Martini’s are called porn stars these days.

Women providers I know seem to have to be much more careful with their vetting process than I do. It’s understandable. I don’t really do much vetting atall except if during the booking exchange they seem weird or want to use drugs etc then they get declined. If it’s an out call I’ll check the area out and will decline if it’s to a bad area.

I’m mostly top who likes to rim (and suck) but I agree with @BenjaminNicholasit has to be for someone who has showered and has a clean hole. I avoid rimming once something has gone in there and if it comes out it’s not squeaky clean. I find that happens with clients sometimes. It’s much less prevalent if I’m filming porn because guys bottoming tend to be really good at douching. You can do things like ass to mouth and be confident it’s all ok.

Dom top vibes

I think this could be because sex work is legal in the UK. You don’t need to hide behind a euphemistic massage therapist label and be coy about rates and services as is necessary in the US where selling sexual services is against the law. Everything can be communicated clearly in a society where attitudes to these things is mature. The other reason is the restrictions of RentMasseur’s system. My rates are on my RentMasseur profile but their page doesn’t give much flexibility: just an in call and out call rate. You can’t quote for different durations or styles or services…at least not when I last updated my profile. But I quote more rate details on my website. The thing is, you can put the basics on the website, rates for the different durations etc but clients sometimes want special things like a 4 hands, or their partner to watch, or for me to play a role (e.g. sports coach massaging player after the game and…well you guessed it…the player gets feedback on their game😂) and those things can take extra so for those it’s ’ask me’.

I look down on short people.