Monarchy79

Would you all judge the guy if he was in prison for….. 
prostitution? 😎

Yours is a very typical experience for me.  I've had a dozen masseurs over the years who started with therapeutic massages with full draping and nothing sexual.  We talk about their wife and kids, etc.  Then, after a few years and dozens of massages, they forgo the draping and start being more sensual.
People change.  The only thing constant in life is change.

I’ve been seeing this masseur for several years. He never advertised on the usual sites, and our sessions were always purely therapeutic. He always had girlfriends, kept me draped, and never gave any sign of going down the sensual route. I kept him in my rotation because I liked his massage style. It was always a proper full-body massage, including sensitive areas like abductors and glutes. He would uncover the area he was working on and cover it again afterwards.
It was obvious at times that I was hard and even leaking a bit. Once I came close to ejaculating, but when by accident my erection slipped out, he just covered me back up and continued.
We lost touch for a couple of years, he moved and traveled, and I didn’t hire him again until earlier this year. He reached out to say he was back in town and asked if I wanted to book a session. I did, and this time things were a little different.
He was more casual with the draping, spent more time on my ass, and even brushed my anus with his hand. At one point, when I flipped over, he left me fully exposed and asked, “Would you like to try a sex toy?” I was stunned. I asked what he meant, and he said, “A Fleshjack.” I agreed, and he proceeded to give me a hand-assisted release with it. I was very surprised by this change, but I enjoyed it.
In later sessions, he continued using the Fleshjack, and his touches became more suggestive, brushing against my erection with his arms and hands while massaging nearby, but so far he hasn’t given me a release with his bare hands. He never gets nude or shirtless, and he’s never placed his dick in a position where it brushed against my arms or hands while massaging me.
He’s an all-American guy: muscular, professional, and very likeable. There’s been no upsell, no pressure, just a different dynamic.
So I wonder, why the change? To make me more happy as a client? What would be a good following step without being too forward or obvious? I was thinking maybe ask him to try other sex toys, buying some and seeing if he wanted to incorporate those? I’m happy with how things are turning. If you have any advice, please let me know. 
One quick note, out of respect, I’m not comfortable revealing the identity of this masseur, so please don’t ask. Thanks for understanding!

You need to write a book. 

You need to write a book. 

Big NAY.
If a provider is strictly therapeutic, then be on a general site (or create your own site), that generally confirms that the services are therapeutic only. 
But to be on a site like MasseurFinder, be scantily clothed, with pictures that allude to everything  EXCEPT for therapeutic massage is intentionally misleading. 
 

Women need to go back to Chippendales. 

He’s an absolutely no.
-No skills
-Smoke cigarettes (and smelled like it)
-questionable hygiene. 

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You want to know what I think is even more sociopathic? 
Creating AI to automatically (and rapidly) deny patient insurance claims, in bulk. 
 
 
 

I schedule only 2 hour sessions with Bodytendr and he works about evenly on both sides. In terms massage techniques, I've gotten the best pain relief and relaxation from him,  including work on hands and feet.  I've had more than 2 dozen massages by Rob, and they were always excellent.  Hyattsville, maybe try again and schedule ahead?  He books up so fast. 

In my city (DC), Sniffies is most effective for orgies, cum dumps, and party & play Tina  junkies (the skanky stuff).
The moment I would log on, the map just explodes with buttcracks and dicks all over the screen…
it also has tons of cruising spots (some historic, and others that people have created).I realized that if I step out at night just about anywhere with a bush or a corner, there a possibility of some action. 
Thanks to Sniffies, I literally got two convenient BJs in the middle of the night within a four block radius from where I live this past summer. 
 
It’s so much open action for free on that app, the last thing I’d even think about is hiring anyone from there .
 

I have always enjoyed my time with this duo.  The massage goes on for about 15 minutes.  Then the fun begins.  It’s obvious that they like playing together and they put me right there in the middle of it all.
How much can I share here?

This.  Less than a dozen posts and already a sniper.  That's cause for question.
It also doesn't help that some of these replies sound either drunk or like they were put into a blender and someone hit the 'frappe' button.

Men should charge what they feel they are worth. 
No one determines a man’s value, but himself. 

You shouldn’t factor this in at all.
The provider should be the one determining the pay.  And his rate shouldn’t be questioned either. 
 
 

That’s awesome.
I’m such a fan of New York Nostalgia and the Glory Years of “gay world”- (70s-90s)

You’ve been to the Mine Shaft!??
 
I bet you have quite a few stories to tell!!!

He’s an absolutely no.
-No skills
-Smoke cigarettes (and smelled like it)
-questionable hygiene. 

I’ve used Day Laborers, for painting, landscaping work, and general contracting. They are great. 
They are not street hustlers for sex, and I recommend not propositioning them for such activities. 
 

 
 

I’ve seen him before. He has no massage skills. 

This guy hits me up.. he has a new account which is already a red flag in my book. But we’re chatting and I drive to his place after sending multiple verification photos. Then he says he won’t let me in till I take a photo outside of his apartment building so I took one from in my car parked out front. He then says no I need to be standing out front. So I explained that sounded weird as I already verified. He said I had to do it so I told him I’m not getting out of my vehicle as there was no need since I already verified. Him wanting me outside my car and to take additional verification in front of his building made me feel like he was the cops. He was also asking weird questions about my personal life like if I was born in the us. I left and he said wait come back you can just come up it’s fine. So I come back against my better judgement and tell him I’m outside. He quits responding then blocks me. The amount of clients that are so paranoid about hiring that end up blocking me after I’ve already driven to there plays is way to much! I was beyond pissed as i spent about 2 hours going back and forth with this guy! Sorry needed to vent 

Lots of enthusiastic members, but no takers.
 

There’s a significant difference between hiring someone in their chosen profession and propositioning someone who is economically disadvantaged. 
 
Nice try though…..
 
 

Am I the only one who just thinks that much of Andrew Christian underwear is just tacky as hell? 😂
(No offense to those forum members who indulge in the brand…..)