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    socurious reacted to SouthOfTheBorder in Is the escorting/massaging scene good in San Diego for providers?   
    an escorts listed rate means nothing.  
    a rate that a,client will pay has so many variables that it’s impossible to quantify without complete information & seeing the escorts profile.  even then, what somone will pay is not some standard formula.  how many positive reviews does the escort have, how long has the person been advertising as an escort, what do the pics look like & what will the escort do ? Is the escort a porn star, or does the escort have a big social media following like OnlyFans or Instagram ?
    Based on a previous threade, you said no kissing.  That’s a huge turn-off for majority of potential clients & completely removes most potential clients from ever hiring you.  You also said only one review - that’s another problem where people won’t hire you.  Unless you have some special type of service, appeal to a niche group, or are social media famous ……it doesn’t look good. 
    Becoming a successful escort takes work and some self-awareness re: what you’re willing to do vs what people are willing to pay.  I can’t imagine anyone paying $300 for an escort with one review & wont do the basics.  The chances are worse once you get outside of the major cities.  it’s not an easy job and many did that out the hard way.
    Any city that has nice weather & decent quality of life is going to be saturated with escorts. That’s a fact 

     
     
     
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    socurious reacted to Simon Suraci in Is the escorting/massaging scene good in San Diego for providers?   
    Agree 100% with @SouthOfTheBorder. You have to be good, no matter where you’re working. Some markets will be better for certain providers, but overall, the best providers do well most anywhere that has a sizable population to support them. Traveling is another strategy. Moving to San Diego won’t magically change your businesses overnight.
    I’m from San Diego originally and currently work in the San Diego market as a masseur and escort. I was successful in Dallas for a couple years too. 
    Yes, SD is a smaller city, and a smaller market, and more difficult in some ways. We have more than plenty of provider choices, and a great many traveling providers constantly passing through. Fewer permanent guys, but plenty relative to the population.
    The gay porn industry is anchored here, and by extension, LA and the rest of SoCal. Many years ago I used to work my desk job on the floor above “Suite 703”. It actually was located on the seventh floor of my building. Sean Cody is here, among many others. A lot of those models are active here, or retire and remain in San Diego long term. I know some of them. A lot of them escort or do massage, or personal training. For example, you might recognize Anthony from his films: https://rentmasseur.com/AnthonySD
    All that to say, there is a lot of fierce competition here among providers. We may be a smaller city relative to NYC, LA and others, but we have no lack of attractive working men. Arguably the *quality* massage talent is lacking. We have lots of rub and tug guys who get by seeing one and done clients. There are a just a handful of good masseurs. For escorts, we are spoiled for choice. Lots of those.
    There’s what we like to call the “sunshine tax”, which means the cost of loving is very high, but wages across the board remain relatively very low in comparison to the high cost of living. This year SD is ranked the most expensive city to live in the US, topping even SF, Miami and NYC. Most years prior it was ranked below those. People move here because they love being here and are willing to sacrifice some aspect of their standard of living for the trade off of enjoying the less tangible benefits of living in SD. Having access to beautiful beaches, nice weather, the laid back attitude, lots of metropolitan institutions, and a thriving economy, among many perks of living here.
    NYC metro is also very expensive, so it may not matter if you’re comparing the two, but keep in mind business is challenging anywhere you go. You have to master your craft and how you do business. After that, you can go almost anywhere that makes sense and do well.
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    socurious reacted to SouthOfTheBorder in Is the escorting/massaging scene good in San Diego for providers?   
    I don’t think escorting is that much different from other professions.  There are people that excel & become the best, regardless of where they are located - of course, competition is a factor to consider because in a super competitive market it requires a lot of work & dedication to make it.  
    The very best providers are in NYC because it’s the #1 market in the world for potential income - that’s based on the number of providers working there & the rates they charge. There are very few other places that have an affluent population, lots of gay men with disposable income and a steady influx of tourists & executives with money to burn.  London maybe comes close, yet the rates are less.  LA would be right up there too.  The top tier guys I know & hire are based in NY/Miami (between the two cities) and then have a loose travel schedule around then world based on where their target clients go at specific times.  And they keep in mind that can’t charge NY prices in Greece, for example. 
    Versus a relatively small city like San Diego that can’t compare to NYC in any way.  It’s not close enough to LA to make both cities work together. And because of the small size it would be an everyone knows everyone situation very quickly.  Providers based in small cities have their own set of complaints - small base of potential clients and people unwilling to pay. 
    It really comes down to a lifestyle choice & being satisfied with those circumstances.  I’ve found that people seeking geographic solutions to their issues in specific places very seldom cure the problem with a move.  The issues seem to follow that person wherever they go.  But, way easier & cheaper places to live than NY where almost everything is complicated & expensive. 
    The things that make an escort successful are reliability, professionalism, positive attitude & the ability to quickly determine which potential clients are right for them vs the time-wasters/flakes.  Most people think it’s being the youngest, best body or best looking- yet none of that matters if the person is unreliable or a flake. The top-tier guys I know never ever complain about their clients, hotel costs, cancellations, the cities where they work or anything else: they just make it happen. The true mark of any kind of professional is when it just appears effortless to those on the outside. And, the successful guys have figured out that reviews & reputation are everything in an increasingly online & competitive marketplace. 
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    socurious got a reaction from Hen in 411 Jared Cross - NYC   
    Is he totally masculine? I mean like straight-acting. I say straight-acting because many gay men I've met would say they are masculine but when you meet them in person you can tell the strong gay vibe going on even if they don't seem too effeminate. I know you all understand exactly what I mean. 
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    socurious got a reaction from Shawn Monroe in Is the escorting/massaging scene good in San Diego for providers?   
    I'm thinking in moving to San Diego and need to know. Here in NYC the market is oversaturated (way too compititive for newbies like me). 
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    socurious got a reaction from Jarrod_Uncut in Is the escorting/massaging scene good in San Diego for providers?   
    I'm thinking in moving to San Diego and need to know. Here in NYC the market is oversaturated (way too compititive for newbies like me). 
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    socurious reacted to CuriousByNature in 411 on Leomuscle in NYC/   
    Maybe he changed his name because he hopes people will give him Thebenefit of the doubt?  🤣
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    socurious reacted to Enronnja in 411 Jared Cross - NYC   
    You even responded in that thread.
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    socurious got a reaction from pubic_assistance in 411 Jared Cross - NYC   
    Is he totally masculine? I mean like straight-acting. I say straight-acting because many gay men I've met would say they are masculine but when you meet them in person you can tell the strong gay vibe going on even if they don't seem too effeminate. I know you all understand exactly what I mean. 
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    socurious reacted to Simon Suraci in How do you buy poppers online?   
    Here is a source. Their poppers are milder than the more well known labels. The payment process was a little roundabout, but you can obtain poppers pretty easily online.
    I tried the linked brand below hoping to actually enjoy poppers. They were milder than most but for me it was a bust. I hate poppers of any strength or brand, period. Taking a hit makes me go limp, lightheaded (in a bad way) and feel all kinds of sick. More power to the large segment of the community that enjoys using them.
    In person, in sex shops, you have to ask for “popcorn”, at least here in California. I’m assuming there’s a legal reason they can’t explicitly use the common street name. Technically, poppers are still illegal, but still widely available everywhere. The laws regarding poppers are not strictly enforced, and in some pockets of the US not enforced at all.
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    socurious reacted to MikeBiDude in How do you buy poppers online?   
    Informational thread here
     
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    socurious got a reaction from + glennnnn in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    Do you guys think we providers should tell the client directly that we don't kiss or the "not listed" thing on RM is just enough for them to know? I always try to encourage my clients to ask anything before we meet.
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    socurious got a reaction from BriansBodywork in Providers: Do you take time to go on vacation / holidays?   
    Oklahoma City seems to have a few nice museums. Salt Lake City seems like a watered down Denver. 
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    socurious reacted to Simon Suraci in Providers: Do you take time to go on vacation / holidays?   
    OKC is an underserved market. They can always use traveling providers and masseurs. I did well there and plan to return. 
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    socurious got a reaction from Simon Suraci in Providers: Do you take time to go on vacation / holidays?   
    You can work while traveling if you decide to visit somewhere in the USA. I just think the whole "working thing" will ruin the vacation experience. But that's just me.
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    socurious reacted to Danny-Darko in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    True. Good to always ask and confirm, because many advertisers on RM just check all the boxes to up the odds and some frankly don't even know what many of them are especially if they're from other countries. Some think that putting "Native American" means they are from the USA or live here now! 😄 
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    socurious reacted to Danny-Darko in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    That works fine for me! Kissing on the mouth is something I only do with somebody I'm involved with emotionally and have an ongoing relationship with. It may sound bizarre to some. I once had a friend who couldn't grasp how I could rim a guy but not kiss him on the mouth! LOL And I prefer to give head than to get mostly, so the type of men I usually hire fit that category of providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral. Just my cup of tea! Everybody has their own likes and dislikes and what's important for them in a sexual partner. 
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    socurious got a reaction from Danny-Darko in Providers that aren't into kissing nor giving oral   
    How is it? Do they get to book clients? Would you hire them? If the provider is hot enough I can see many hiring them just to bottom for him. 
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    socurious reacted to marylander1940 in Do most clients hiring masseurs expect a happy ending?   
    An overwhelming percentage of them do and they want to get off with something cheaper than hiring an escort. 
    We even have frequent poster who bragged about not telling masseurs he was about to cum but if he tells them only 5% of them would swallow.... his post got plenty of 👍 on here! 
    @socurious DON'T do massages is a waste of time, is exhausting and you'll get paid less for the same amount of time and 4 times the effort! You can be thinking what's for dinner while getting/giving a blow job but if you're massaging you have to be focus, it's just not worth it. 
     
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    socurious reacted to Rudynate in Do most clients hiring masseurs expect a happy ending?   
    I have noticed that you can be disappointed when you hire for sensual or erotic, I always hire for therapeutic, which often morphs into sensual or erotic.  If it doesn't it's OK because therapeutic is what I hired for, after all.
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    socurious got a reaction from marylander1940 in Dahmer? Extra precautions after watching it?   
    My last client had a skull in his living room. I couldn't stop thinking about that movie when I saw it and freaked out a bit, lol. I told him about it jokinly after we met but I'm sure he noticed it anyways. Funny not funny. 
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    socurious got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in Dahmer? Extra precautions after watching it?   
    My last client had a skull in his living room. I couldn't stop thinking about that movie when I saw it and freaked out a bit, lol. I told him about it jokinly after we met but I'm sure he noticed it anyways. Funny not funny. 
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    socurious reacted to + StLouisOct in How do you buy poppers online?   
    Try asking this in the Lounge. You’ll get more discussion. We come to this particular forum to discuss fetishes.
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    socurious reacted to + keroscenefire in Do most clients hiring masseurs expect a happy ending?   
    This is what I (and I think most clients) would anticipate based on the following Rentmasseur levels of massage:
    Therapeutic: A great, therapeutic massage to relax the muscles probably with a clothed masseur, maybe in his underwear. If I got a hand job, great but I would not expect it.
    Sensual: A great, therapeutic massage to relax the muscles done likely nude or in skimpy underwear. Almost for sure a hand job to climax, perhaps some mutual touching (his body and probably his dick), oral unlikely but possible.
    Erotic: A great, therapeutic massage to relax the muscles almost for sure done nude. Definitely a hand job to climax, almost for sure some mutual touching (his dick/body) , probably including oral (maybe receptive and giving), probably not fucking or anything else, but possible, more likely for an "upcharge" to escort services.
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    socurious reacted to soloyo215 in Do most clients hiring masseurs expect a happy ending?   
    I don't think there's anything to judge. It's a simple legitimate question (IMO), though it might not have a simple answer.
    The way a provider told me when I asked about happy endings is that he is as much of a man as the rest, so he thinks about what he'd like to happen and "gives clients a choice". The specifics are up for negotiation. Sounded rather vague, but I understand that the answer can be simple or complex, depending on who you ask. It's one of those things that mean different things for different people
    I believe that clients might expect being happy after the experience, but not all expect something sexual. That's why they are specifications about therapeutic only in RM. However, the other side is more vague and (IMO) coded to some degree.
    I am not much of a person who asks specifics and I have gotten happy endings that range from one end of the spectrum to the other end of the spectrum. I leave happy every time (that is discounting the experiences where the provider has ripped me off, there were never meant to be a happy ending of any kind for me on those).
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