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11 hours ago, Ali Gator said:
I can't stand wen they keep their baseball caps on. I always ask them to take it off, and most won't - they say they're having a 'bad hair day'. Really ?
I like running my fingers through my guy’s hair. I have yet to meet one who has refused to take the hat off. One time I met a provider named Eddie who I think was wearing a wig or weave (?). I felt it awkward to ask him to put his hat back on. 😂- + Pensant and + DrownedBoy
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Bump. Good reviews on RM spanning three years, but no intel here.
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I texted him today. The incall rate was 500. I’ll pass.
- Dolman and builder boy
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I’ve met him so many times before covid. He deactivated his profile during the shutdown.
He’s my favorite provider.
This provider has never asked for deposits.
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29 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:
Don’t tell someone “don’t put yourself in a position where you can’t handle a cancellation”Don’t put yourself in a position where you can’t handle a cancellation.
If you can’t, find another job.
- pubic_assistance and DWnyc
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50 minutes ago, Camuncapp said:
Drew gives a wonderful massage. Also he is so sweet and friendly that you feel like you've known him forever after just an hour. I have seen some of his social media posts and they made me scratch my head because none of that came out during conversations. But it won't keep me from returning. Half of my family and half of the country believes what he believes. I don't understand it but it is what it is.
I had the same experience. Nothing political was discussed. I’ll never know if he was lying but he said I was the first one to get the full escort experience with him. I booked for a massage, but who am I to turn down such an offer.
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1 hour ago, Monarchy79 said:
if a potential provider flakes on a client, takes his deposit and disappears, his financial loss is pretty much set, and he can’t recoup his loss.
That’s why I will never send a deposit. NEVER! I’m a trustworthy person and am lucky to find providers who trust me enough not to flake on them.
Here’s how much I respect providers. I couldn’t make it to an appointment because something came up. I arranged to meet the provider at a later time to hand him his donation. Since he was about to check out, we didn’t even have a session. I didn’t expect one. I went there to make up for the revenue he lost with my canceled appointment.
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41 minutes ago, MikeBiDude said:
I think @Jarrod_Uncut sometimes feels he’s “educating” us. Unfortunately my feeling is that this forum represents a fairly sophisticated and experienced client base. Not sure a lot of minds are going to get educated/changed here. 🤷🏻♂️
It’s not about having a sophisticated and experienced client base here and out there. It about having a diverse community. Jarrod seems to think that his business model is the only one that works.
- DWnyc, pubic_assistance, peter831 and 2 others
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19 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:
I know I use this term often around here: but that gaslighting term comes up again. You can’t gaslight my experiences, and then reference sales data to back it up. It’s not exactly the same, but I get where you are coming from.
I know the difference between a client who hasn’t bothered to read an ad, but contacts for a session and then doesn’t want to comply with anything…such as deposits. Or reasonable notice. I have seen the same clients who were dismissive, come around again and try to rebook only to do it again. And more often than not it’s the exact type of people I mentioned earlier.
I think @Monarchy79 described it pretty accurately, even though we have differing opinions at times. Many gay guys are streaming multiple options, including the free route. I’m always grateful when someone does go my route.
I think you’re inserting fear tactic where it’s not necessarily needed. You assume the escort is the fault if people aren’t following thru properly. I know that’s easy to do, but you have to think a bit more critically and actually ask the ones who are doing this…what the actual facts are.
Remember that thread I made about longer sessions? This was in a city that is KNOWN for clients to be consistently flaky. I basically went to the area for that 1 client only, because the amount he was willing to pay. Any other time, I would not dare stop in that town EVER, without a client Pre-booked (city I refer to is Indianapolis btw). I know how they are.
Before and while I was there, I had several messages from guys on RM/RMASS who didn’t book. Only 2 showed up, but it was worth the trip. Marketing isn’t always the deal sealer.
I’ll even go further to say: most places in America just aren’t good for the biz. Think about it: ANY GAY MEN HERE LOOKING TO GET PAID OR PAY FOR SEX TODAY? Say that aloud in public and see what happens. And then see how it compares to “sales data”. Yes, sex sells and all but we’re up against a force of nature bigger than just “marketing”. Then add living or marketing in places were the men are cheap, or racist, or family/church oriented…you can’t blame that on the escort. The way people act, is a product of their environment. And the clients come to us with that same mentality. Then somehow it’s our marketing at fault. Hmm 🤔 how does that work.
Some places are more time wasters than others. I have long learned I have to be strategic to where I go. I don’t go to places based on lots of other guys advertising. Other guy’s choice of location or definition of success (some people may only need 2-3 clients a month only, I’m not).
People not in the business, often think that’s always the solution, “go to Miami, go to Los Angeles, go to New York.” Yeah, but that all costs money, and you have to market platinum boost ($24/day) and “available now” constantly to get noticed. And the bigger the city, sometimes the more flakes and even competition trying to stall your business.
The state I live in, there’s only a couple cities where one can regularly get clients: Kansas City and St. Louis. And they both have sucked (pun intended) lately. At this point, I’m where I don’t even want to work in my home state anymore because nobody is booking. I have my select regulars, but there’s been hardly any new clients. I even had one the other week send me $20 consultation, then the next day when we were scheduled, he wasn’t even answering his messages.
That’s why I’m over it. Times like this I usually need to travel for a month or 2 and get into some new markets. Sometimes it don’t matter how good your marketing is, if the guys in an area don’t want to pay and/or can’t afford it: it won’t help.
Why don’t you just do what you want to do? Why bother presenting your business model here? Are you trying to convince us to agree to it?
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9 minutes ago, DWnyc said:
Without seeing / hearing the whole conversation I don’t see what is a lie here.
”I want to book something” isn’t a lie if I don’t end up booking.
”Yes I promise I’ll be there at 2pm on Sunday with a donation of X for Y hours of your time” and then they don’t show up or do but don’t have the donation or expect more than that time - that’s a lie.
Are you saying the only outcome from contact should be setting up an agreement to meet at a certain time and place for specific terms?
If so your expectations from sales outreach are unrealistic.
This provider’s business model is “If you go into my store, you have to buy something. If you ask about a product, you have to buy it.”
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54 minutes ago, maninsoma said:
If an initial contact doesn't enhance the excitement about the prospective meeting or, worse yet, makes the prospective client leery about hiring the escort, then the escort isn't doing a good job of marketing himself.
If the attitude shown on this forum is any indication of how some escorts market themselves, it’s easy to see why clients decide not to hire after initial contact.
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3 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:
But why would I care to do that though?
You looked up an old post of mine from two years ago so I thought you cared.
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