Trick

On 3/13/2024 at 11:41 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Plus, I’m not too sure about you anyway. You said in another thread, that you seen a provider and afterwards forgot your wallet in the car. You sound sketchy AF. 
 

You can ask this provider if I reneged on my payment for him.

https://rentmen.eu/Dilancristian

It happened with him too so ask him as well.  I asked him to accompany me to my car as I went to get his donation.

https://rentmen.eu/JakeDaddy

Honest people forget things, you know!

4 hours ago, wsc said:

Well, that's wonderfully graphic!

Yeah, the oozing cream out of those donuts have given me hard-ons at Dunkin’ Donuts! 🍩

As an aside, I may have brought such donuts to my sessions before.  Licking the cream off the guy gave my tongue some good exercise.

25 minutes ago, JamesB said:

You may be right.

I might be thinking of the Boston cream donut pie. 😂 

1 hour ago, JamesB said:

I believe it's commonly referred to as "creampieing" or engaging in "multiple rounds," but I could be mistaken.

I thought creampieing was when the cum oozes from the hole.

41 minutes ago, SubNick said:

 

no I think he deserves to have as many clients as he wants!

 

But he can only love me!

5 hours ago, SubNick said:

Just met him. Looks better than his pics. Beefier - less of a twink and more of a daddy. Incredibly handsome and sexy. Deeply kind and easy to communicate with. extremely kinky if you like that, a total deviant but also a really good boyfriend/companion. A dick like no one else’s. Im in love 

I’m gonna fight you for his love! 😂 

13 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Sure, but the constant back and forth is just annoying as fuck and not getting anyone anywhere. 

Time for pizza.

Already finished a box since I let go of the back and forth.

Just now, Jay_lucas said:

What  I’m seeing is everyone going back-and-forth in insulting one another and I don’t want that. As I said please keep it civil . 

Okay, for your sake, I’ll let this go,

1 minute ago, Jay_lucas said:

Someone please help me how to close this topic , please. I don’t want anyone to fight if you don’t agree with a deposit because of a lot of cancellations that’s fine do you have your opinion and everyone else has their opinion I don’t want anyone fighting on here 

 
There’s no fighting here, just expressing opinions. 

8 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Okay, story 📖 time. I’ve said what I needed to say, time to hear it from other people on websites elsewhere:

“… compensation for the time we set aside to see the client, getting ready, touching base with them…”

That’s part of the fee or donation or roses or whatever it’s called. I’ll pay it when I see the provider, not before.

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

And, good for you. What does name dropping have to do with the discussion? If you have to resort to “who you hired” as some sort of leverage to prove a point, then that goes to show once again your character.

 

I didn’t drop names to brag. I did so to prove that there are a lot of successful providers who never ask for a deposit.

BTW, many of these providers are members here but I never see them complain about the business.

To my fellow clients:  Don’t feel bad about saying NO to providers who ask for deposits.  There are many other providers who don’t.

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Because last time I checked: I have not been stood up by a client who’s sent a deposit at all this year.

 

When I talk about flakes and time wasters, those are the ones who haven’t even gotten to first base:

 

If you’re getting clients, then what are you complaining about all the time?

You’re like a store owner who’s got customers in his store but keeps complaining and ranting about the passers by.

9 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

You can’t learn if you stay stuck on what you want and think is fair for YOU.

That’s ignorant if you can’t be willing to accept why some do it. 
 

Let’s see who needs this more, Jarrod or Trick

Jarrod:  Has been insisting on requiring deposits for sessions for years, but still always complains about flakes and time wasters.  Deposits haven’t solved his problem with flakes.  Always unhappy with his escorting experience.

Trick:  Has NEVER sent a deposit for years; has met the likes of Tristan Baldwin, Mike Gaite, Cade Maddox, and lots of other well-reviewed providers who don’t require deposits. Very happy with his hiring experience.

Who needs it more?

On 3/12/2024 at 4:18 AM, Jamie21 said:

Oh no! The deposit question 😱…

Here’s the answer: the provider decides his business model and the hirer decides whether or not to play it. You do you. The end. 

Thank you.

1 minute ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Okay, well if the thread were: “why I don’t care to give escorts deposits” then perhaps you would be on the right track. However, the basis of this was a client who booked a 3 hour session but didn’t send a deposit, and the person was considering it. Why does it have to turn into a discussion about what you do and don’t care about? 

I already gave my advice to the OP not to ask for deposits.

You’re the one refuting my advice to him. Whenever this topic of deposits comes up, you talk about flakes and time wasters.  As a client, that is not my problem.

12 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Your point? No I won’t, because you’re not making any sense talking about a waiter. Then somehow trying to relate that to a sex worker who pays to advertise, and sees clients privately. It’s not the same. Whether you care or don’t care about their overheads is irrelevant. That’s not the discussion. The discussion is: how can escorts ensure they aren’t going to be stood up when reserving time and spending money to see clients? Deposit.

Matter of fact, escort yourself out 🥾 

My point is, I don’t care about the employees’ circumstances when picking a business. I find the business that suits me.

When hiring an escort, I don’t care about his circumstances, his hotel bills, or gas expenses.  I hire him to provide a service, I pay him at the rate he sets and I never haggle. It’s not my responsibility to keep flakes from ruining his business.  My responsibility is to be a good client and not be a flake. But I will NEVER send a deposit. 
 

6 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Wrong analogy. The waiter is covering multiple customers in a setting that is already paid for by a company. It’s also tips, he’s not reliant on 1 table. Gas is not an overhead. And what waiter you know is driving 2 hours to work that you know? I’m sure it exists, but maybe in Gordon Ramsay’s kitchen.

On the other hand, a catering company with multiple staff WOULD likely charge a deposit to host 1 client, who wants an event. See the difference?

You’ll never get the point.

13 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Well that’s fine, do what you please. If you wish (not saying you are) to be selfish, uncompromising and self-centered when it comes down to deposits: That’s your choice. But where it becomes an issue is when you reiterate it like it’s some type of disadvantage or wrong doing on the part of the escort. 

Even though I often encourage and require them: I have done with and without over the years, so I’m not just speaking from one side. I’ve experienced both. You keep saying “never never never”. Well then you have no experience beyond what you know. 

 

Every consumer is selfish, uncompromising, and self-centered when it comes to the product or service they’re getting. 
 

Does anyone say, “I’ll eat at that restaurant because the waiter has to drive 2 hours to get there. I hope I help him pay for gas.”?

35 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The only solution is SOMETHING NOMINAL UPFRONT, BEFORE YOU SPEND MONEY OR SET ASIDE TIME. Period.

The only solution for me is NOT TO GIVE ANYTHING UPFRONT.  It’s working for me and the providers I like.  Period.

27 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

It’s toxic because you’re ALWAYS on the one side of things, regardless of the information and experiences that are posted. You don’t even acknowledge the circumstances, you just immediately say what you’re not going to do…and then reference other escorts who supposedly don’t) 
 

If many clients don’t like it, then they should be doing their due diligence when it comes down to arranging bookings. Like I said before, I occasionally offer compromises to deposits but some don’t want to do it.

And “putting yourself at the mercy” of flakes and timewasters is unavoidable simply because unless you’re encouraging to stop advertising all together: it’s going to happen anyway. The only way to mitigate best, is to have a fee for contact like I mentioned before.

Also having regulars isn’t necessarily foolproof either. They cancel and flake just as well. I was going to meet a regular in Cincinnati last month, when he seen me posted up. A 2 hour session. Fortunately before I started heading up, the morning of I asked if we were confirmed and to send location and he’s like, “no schedule changed”. Considering the drive was hours away, good thing I didn’t start heading their the night before. And I didn’t even mention deposit because he usually shows up, but he’s often last minute and cancels every other appointment locally. I knew better than to trust him meeting in a different state because, he’s not reliable. Regular doesn’t always mean “reliable”. Let’s get that straight.
 

The only solution is SOMETHING NOMINAL UPFRONT, BEFORE YOU SPEND MONEY OR SET ASIDE TIME. Period.

I’ll just remind you that I’m the client here.  So I do what I like.  Why would I consider the other side when I’m happy with the side I’m on.  I don’t care about provider’s circumstances, that’s their problem.  I’ll pick the providers who run their business in the way that benefits me.

42 minutes ago, Jay_lucas said:

I never said I was looking for a deposit. I was just asking for advice. 

I didn’t say you were.  I was just putting my vote in for “no deposits.”

To put it in the form of an advice, I say, don’t ask for a deposit, many clients don’t like it.  Another advice: Don’t put yourself in a position where you’re at the mercy of flakers and time wasters.  Establish a roster of regulars in places you visit.

20 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I think pinning providers against one another is a bit toxic habit,

 

It’s called free enterprise.  I like Company A’s business model more than Company B’s, so I go to Company A. How is that a toxic habit? 
 

Today’s business world is driven by reviews, so I will post reviews and tell other consumers what I don’t like about Company B.  I’ll say, “Avoid this company, they ask for deposits.”

Just now, MikeBiDude said:

I believe the gentleman meant “new” to our forum, that’s what I picked up in the context.

Sorry, my bad. I think I’ve met him.

5 hours ago, Jay_lucas said:

Thanks for the advice. I’m new so thanks for the advice 

How new?  Your profile on RentMen says you joined in 2018.

https://rentmen.eu/JAY_LUCAS

I will never put down a deposit for a session.  There are a lot of good, well-reviewed providers who don’t require them.  I’ll stick to hiring them.