Marlfox

They probably just saw the writing on the wall. They were paranoid after the RB thing to the point you barely knew what the site was about anymore. No talk of sex as in what you like. Must wear clothes, etc.

Kevin Slater

I've been several times. It's WAY tamer - it's basically a 1 block street fair. It's a nice social outing, but don't go thinking you'll experience anything remotely close to a "Folsom experience." The only upside is that there are fewer people who are there just to gawk and make comments.

Rumor is it is tamer than SF.
 
My first time, too.
 
We should all meet up while we’re there.

I’ve done several Body Electric courses and have found them to be amazing. Lance is correct, everyone would benefit from experiencing the camaraderie and erotic and spiritual growth shared at them.

It looks like this profile was deleted as well ... or is there yet another handle change?

Bumping this one.
Any wisdom?

You're a cool dude cool. Your self sacrifice is appreciated:)

I have met with Dave, a few times, before his moving to the Far East; a couple of overnights and one full day visit. In fact, Dave is the only escort I ever hired for an overnight for the first meeting. Each and every meeting was more than exceptional. The very best boyfriend experience, with a twist here and there. He makes the experience completely mutual. I look forward to a time when he is stateside, our schedules match, and I can experience a threesome with one of his favorites.

years ago, when he was primarily MyrtleTony, he did have face pics on his ad and I remember them as classic dark-and-handsome stuff.....wish I was out East.....
 
and though I know providers - never - talk about other providers , a well-regarded, now-retired DC-area provider I met a couple times, who has strong Maryland roots, highly endorsed Tristan/Tony

People are amazing leaky, it's diabolical. That's why the most effective interrogation techniques are not openly adversarial and involve a lot of listening.
 
To answer your question, I would try to avoid it, if possible.
 
Now my twist on the original question. As a client, I actively don't want to know this information. I am a data hoarder, and if I learn this, I will want to know what data it will lead me too. One time this happened, I didn't like what I found and even though it wasn't that terrible, it did make me glad I attempt to be somewhat discreet with my personally identifying info.

That's what I take it to mean. The guy was saying "go ahead, touch all you want".

I had alot of interesting experiences at that place. I went fairly often in the 90s. I remember the renovations - the current main entrance was an emergency exit when I first went, and the configuration was different. They tried shower shows, and then tried selling webcam access to the showers. They frequently reconfigured the small theater space at the back of the main level, added, removed, added again little booths for private play. There was a multi-level deck out back; over the years, they blocked off access to lower levels. They served alcohol when I first went there.
 
The arcade downstairs also went through multiple makeovers. The booths had glory holes, then all were closed, and there were "magic windows" between booths with opaque glass that became transparent when the video was paid/activated. That prevented guys using the booths without paying..... and an employee frequently walked through, banging on doors with unlit in-use lamps, yelling "you cant use the booth if you dont pay for videos!" There was a sex toy shop down there then a big private show booth used by house dancers then subsequently closed, etc.
 
I remember Todd, tragically killed in a hate crime, and Jerry, the managers.... they kept that place scrubbed. The Campus Theater, with similar shows, was filthy by comparison. NobHill was so clean, I actually stopped in once or twice when I was nearby & needed a bathroom.
 
They went through different "themes" and there was a 1-2 year period in the 90s when most of the house dancers were ripped up muscle guys. I got to know the manager, he took me downstairs to his office and asked for input on dancer selection. One night a married couple was walking around, and introduced themselves as the owners. In my later years, early 2000s, they tried attracting female bachelorette parties.
 
There were rules. The headliner had four shows at 12N or 1, 5, 8 & 11, had to get hard every show, and had to ejaculate on-stage at least once a day. They housed the headliner at an apartment next door, then switched to a seedy hotel about 2 blocks away. I had my first escort session in that apartment.
 
It was $30 back then. I live in suburbia, so when I drove into SF, I made it an all-day event. I'd catch the first show, stick around for house dancers that interested me, or leave and shop, run errands, get meals, coming and going into the evening. Thats how I met alot of the guys, gave them rides to the gym, took many to dinner, etc.
 
I remember when they stopped paying house dancers, telling them to work for tips. Most of them quit.
 
I used to hang out, chatted up alot of dancers, etc. I learned an interesting lesson from observing... house dancers would solicit patrons for a private show. Using the lower level private show space, then, when that closed, I guess several dancers got an apartment/room about a block away. I'd see a patron leave with a dancer, looking a little nervous. 15 minutes later, I'd see the house dancer return, looking like the proverbial "cat who ate the cream" Trailing 1-2 minutes behind, would come the patron, looking crestfallen and chagrined. Based on that, I always assumed that the private show was a ripoff. Sometimes I'd see that scene play out multiple times in one night. I got solicited like all patrons; if I was interested, I'd say "no, but I'll pay more for an hour on my terms, if you want" Only one guy (non-headliner) ever said yes. I inferred that the quicky privates racket was much easier money for the dancers.
 
You can guess one of my interests from my avatar. Sitting in the Nobhill audience is the first place I ever touched a ripped up muscle guy flexing. Naively, I never knew that a guy could flex his pecs, making them rockhard. I dont remember the dancer's name, but I'm pretty certain a bell rang in my head that first time I felt pecs go from relaxed to solid stone. I was hooked.
 
I saw the place empty and saw it packed. I saw Ryan Idol fill the place to capacity, not one empty seat. After performing in a show called "making porn" at a different theater, there was a cast party at NobHill, attended by multiple porn actors and ChiChi Larue. I watched Marco Rossi sit on a champage bottle on stage to the hoots of other porn performers... apparently he'd been arrested or cited in Texas for doing that. I saw the Chicago MeatPackers dance troup, one of them pressed me so hard during a lapdance, he broke my eyeglasses. Later, when he went to get dressed, he handed me his wadded up bills from tips, and asked me to hold it for him. The place was sex-charged. I once watched an asian tourist patron in the row behind me stuffing one $100 dollar bill after another into a house dancer's sock.
 
I havent been there in at least 10 years. I still check the website regularly- the house dancers advertised really arent my type. It was one thing to hang there in my 30s, even early 40s. Now, I think I'd feel like an old fart. And yet, every once in a while, I think about going back.
 
Wow, apologies to the board for the lengthy post... my fingers just kept tapping as one memory begat another...

I go to the movies every Sunday morning because of the boy handing me my popcorn - I have seen many a dog of a movie thanks to him.

Saw this last night. Great seats (4th row on the center aisle). Blown away. Ben's first number "Waving Through a Window" had me and most of the rest of the audience in tears. A huge ovation at the end of the song.
I put it in the same category as "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nightime." A marginal notch below, but overwhelmingly one of the best shows I have seen. I will be amazed if it does not win the Tony for Best Musical. If it doesn't it will only solidify my belief that "Best" musical is political (with "Fun Home" being an example of a show that should not have been nominated, much less been the winner! or like "Two Gentlemen of Verona" beating out "Follies" for the top honor.) The same goes for Ben Platt's performance. One of the best musical performances I have ever seen - and being near my dotage, I have seen a lot. As one who normally gets upset at unearned standing ovations, I led the pack last night!

Trick (1999)

I saw this show in February and agree with all the positive comments about it. Ben Platt was terrific, as was the rest of the cast. The show really does deserve to do well at the Tony's.

For a new escort I have no issues counting out the money. I get it and it's not insulting at all. Sex = business. With established escorts who I've been seeing on a regular basis it's never counted. I just have to make sure I remember to give it as I'm usually quite happy and elated so always count out the money first and lay it down and I always have to "piss" anyway. Lol

The only almost horror story I have had was when I paid my guy and then left. He called me immediately (within about 5 minutes) to let me know that 2 of the $100 bills were stuck together and I overpaid him by $100 (in addition to his tip). i said let it ride for the next visit!

Re Gordon Grant - I had a college roommate who was out before I was and I used to borrow his In Touch and Mandate magazines for ...inspiration... and an ad for a Colt film featured GG, and I was obsessed. A Prod'n still showed a scene on a houseboat where he and his partner were fucking face to face, which I had not seen before and I still sort of link him to my preference for that position. Thanks, Gordo!!

Thanks, Tristan. I'm just as impressed with you. Finding an escort who's centered and balanced is already a rare thing. Everything you bring to the table ... well, that's just icing on the cock. Cake.
 
Still waiting to have that first threesome with you... wonder if someone's gonna hire us together in 2017! At the very least, I bet we could put on a good show for him
 
Thanks funguy and UconnFlyer for the above, too!

...You know, in this industry, far too many escorts regard their contemporaries as COMPETITION rather than being a sounding board for all the trials and tribulations from the road that we all experience. Thus, when you come across guys with great personalities like Andrew Justice, Sean Xavier AJ, etc- who take the time out of their schedules to meet for a drink or coffee, it really says something about them.
 
Before I met him at the Springs two years back, I must admit that I was somewhat resentful of this guy and his moniker- because I didn't put in the effort to see what lies beneath. I'm man enough to admit that it was competitive jealousy amongst guys in this industry, that had me having such feelings- but I have to make a public apology here for even having such thoughts that no one else knew....this guy is indeed a class act.
 
Just met for coffee in DC, and he's looking even better than when I saw him two years back. A smile and a laugh that would put someone at ease, to say the least. Changed my perspective on this gentleman 1000000% and I can't help but gush here. Had to do it.
 
Rant over.

During the midst of exercising my amazing (or so I thought) oral skills:
 
"Do you know what the weather is going to be like tomorrow?"
"What kind of law do you practice?"
 
Wasn't sure whether to laugh or just bite down really hard.

Rafel Lords: wow mouth watering pictures. http://www.ourgtn.org/public/style_emoticons/default/oldGTNdrool.gif

"Goddamm Patty Lupone" in the starring role of Evita on Broadway. Stunningly ballsy.