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So title of this thread is about one particular business in NY called SPA? Nevermind.

Santa Fe obvz more pricey for everything, esp in summer opera season. Better for vacation than Albuquerque which is overall a quiet gay-friendly city with many different areas for residence. Gorgeous scenery everywhere you look, and lots of ways to become better acquainted with nature and SW Native Culture and traditions. We own rental property in ABQ, which was incredibly well priced when we needed to find an investment. We have friends whom we visit, but I am a city mouse at heart and would not relocate to the area.

A day spa, or hotel/resort spa is an entirely different experience from engaging a particular provider for service at his location or yours. Yes, there are people at a spa. 😳 And yes, the prevailing atmosphere is hushed conversation, no phones, with no cruising *ymmv, nor sex. The massage itself will be in a closed room, perhaps a curtained booth, and draping is standard, as is a fully dressed masseur. In the wet areas some patrons walk around nude, but such nice robes and towels and shower shoes are provided, most of us make use. For many of us it’s a fair trade off in exchange for more technically reliable bodyworkers, and steam/sauna/jacuzzi and shower all right there, as well as other skin-improvement services. Day spas vary widely as to these wet-area amenities. The low-rate spas offer less wet area space - perhaps just a sauna and shower. The spa experience is not for everyone. And definitely not for a client intent on a happy ending. I bet a lot of us use both spa services and hire private providers, depending on what we need when time and money coincide. Being quiet for an hour or two seems to be a widespread problem.

If you were to tell the new guy how he disappointed you, an experienced client, what he did or didn’t do, what would the main issues be? (Just chemistry, or actual choices he made? Which would include offering a safe environment if hosting…) When I’ve ventured into trying a new provider, I’ve not had the kind of experience that would inspire same reaction as you to this new dude. Maybe I need to expect more..?

Maybe it’s Maybelline

Lots of sound advice from members. I am not going to pursue any contact or convo, and if I happen to run into him somewhere in this vast city (where I am now retired) I imagine we’ll each have a couple laughs and move on.

I base my choice more on training and experience than on appearances. I choose to have even a legit massage done by a man in a more casual environment than a spa providing similar level of bodywork, which has overhead, and people!!! , and charges more. I personally do not benefit from Thai style, which is the more affordable spa service in LA. if I am envisioning an encounter that involves certainty about my climax, I know that it’s better to find guys who do both massage and escort, and I book a session for the latter, with massage-ish elements. I keep expectations low and have rarely been disappointed. We’re only compensating them for their time, after all.

Not a crush. The occasional silent dirty thought, which I am certain was not reciprocated. But he’s fun and interesting and funny. He’s a man, not a boy, but has a can-do attitude and sensitivity to people’s needs. We problem solved together. His demeanor, intellect and vibe may make for the right match to clients wanting good company. It’s something that I am happy to leave as his private hobby.

Thx! I no longer work, and the one time I shat in the wrong place (41 yrs ago) prevented it from happening again in my career. I have also given the same solid Rose Castorini advice to others who needed to hear it! I hope my friend is choosing to provide services because he enjoys it - I received a company-wide email in ‘20 during our furlough that he had resigned and had found other field-related work elsewhere in the city. He may very well be gainfully employed in town, and do it just because he wants to, for a way to meet guys. He’s listed only on Friendboy as far as I’ve found, which would probably not give the highest traffic for ads meant to yield income. I’ve said nothing to anyone who knows him about this. If I do run into him at any point I’m sure I’ll keep quiet about what I’ve seen. Nevertheless I used to love watching him walk away…😎

On JFF they have fantastic chemistry. (But everyone does with Someone)

We’ve not been in touch since beginning of lockdown. But we were definitely work friends - we had (with “hurry up and wait” a big part of the work) a lot of time to chat. Never flirted, but he was a smart and fun colleague whom I still miss. Stumbled on a profile on FriendBoy while checking a link from this site - phone number matches, full face shown, clearly him. Still a pleasure to see him from behind…If he was a stranger to me, I bet a session would be fun! I asked myself what to do, and I answered “nothing” Has anyone encountered a similar situation? Actually made contact thru the ad? Hired? Gave a winking nod when social circumstances brought you together? Actually talked about it? I may text him for an overdue coffee, but would not be bringing it up when he talks about his new worklife. Would be a script idea for a film from Breaking Glass that would go straight to LOGO and maybe tubi. 😂

King Dwarf interview I find DB him extremely likable and hot in this interview. He’s an intelligent person, great sense of humor.

There’s not a cabal of men-for-hire around the globe who, in a glamorous, secure location, set escort rates over cigars and brandy, the way a barrel of crude oil is priced. An escort without regulars asks for the maximum the market will bear. A drop in client bookings can help them reassess their strategy. @Moke is correct - If it’s what’s preventing you from booking a meeting, tell them, and move on.

Personal meet-ups will always have a market. The difference in interaction between viewer/OFDude, and client/provider, having your parts engaging in person with same dude in person - vastly different. maybe like watching a band’s World tour on YT …vs making your own live acoustic music in a small room with other people present to do the same. Both pleasurable. Different desires. Providers have a baseline income requirement. Many likely work in some other field, full or part time. Escorting fell off in 2020 w/lockdown and JFF/OF became a way to bridge the gap for those who relied on it. As a worker, needing a specific amount of liquidity by a certain day, you weigh the total time and effort put into on-camera sex with hot men, vs the total time and effort to advertise, volley inquiries, book, prepare, clean if hosting, and fake 90% of your fun with a client resembling Archie Bunker. C’mon…

Any comments (from appreciators of legit bodywork) specifically about his pressure, technique and flow, then? I’m happy when “intuitive massage” is actually the product of his training, experience and empathy. No MT nor his nudity? Cool. He can wear an Armani suit, a cockcage with a pair of Ray-bans, a flak jacket and fencing mask or a hazmat suit if he delivers great bodywork. Does he?

“I think we are both into activities you mentioned in your profile” He’ll likely ask “what specifically?” Tell him. Be clear about who is doing what to whom in your ideal encounter.

In many cases, the difference is about $100…

There are times when a really great massage that ends happily for me is exactly what I want. If the ending needs to include more participation from the provider, I hire an escort with massage skills/experience, which are highlighted in a masseur ad and may not be in the escort profile. I’m upfront about what I’m looking for, and I almost always test a new provider with massage only.

The forum here is a place that discusses labels all the time. But only with a very specific line of consumer services and products generally not of interest to the wider public. In this line of products and services, sometimes various offerings are misrepresented, or require caveats of understanding in order to know what the price includes, or if the “product” is accurately depicted through words and images provided by the marketer. Labels and their accuracy prevent unsatisfactory business deals. Labels applied to off-market sexuality are sometimes useful, but only as a shortcut between 2 individuals, not as a descriptor of an individual to society at large. I am certain that I am a cis male whose only interest in sexual activity is with other cis males. The label that applies to me is “gay” and it’s a fair label based on how I describe myself. Anyone who rejects all self-labeling, and keeps their gender and/or sexual wants/needs/desires completely hidden, is safer in the workplace, and the world at large. But finding the person(s) they hope to have in their most private of worlds will just take a lot more time. Because “sexuality is complicated”

In sixth grade, midwestern public school sex education in 1968 included this film for the boys, along with “Boy To Man” a similarly produced educational film about the biology and plumbing of puberty and reproduction. Boomers were perhaps the largest generation to be indoctrinated with the self-loathing from mass-produced misinformation passing as “Sex Education” especially regarding the social (and societal) aspects of sexuality. No one ever came out while in high school.

Never ever have I heard it put so directly, yet not without humanity

Since the linear narrative format has been abandoned, I want to see a full set from Midge’s Act sometime in the 70’s

“I hate it when the person I’m laying to filth overhears me” 😂

He’s a great performer. I hope his suffering is minimal as he moves through this, wherever it leads him.