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There really is no age that is too old. The problem arises when someone is not willing to be satisfied with the partners available to them. An 80 -year old with only half of his teeth left can't access the same pool of partners as a built 28-year old. He either has to live with that or he has to hire. I anticipated this a long time ago. I used to watch old guys hitting on guys a third of their age in bars and I thought they looked pathetic. I was hoping that, by the time I reached their age, I would have learned to appreciate partners closer to my own age. And that's exactly what happened. And I discovered that old guys are one of our best-kept secrets - they're fabulous fucks.

No I didn't conflate them. You did.

We know that most escorts would fail your test. Not because of any failing on their part, but because the test has unrealistic expectations built into it - that the escort is supposed to be your friend forever because one time or a few times he provided a personal service to you. We don't expect a "til death us do part" commitment from any service provider - not even a psychotherapist with whom you have shared your deepest, darkest secrets. If you want a "til death us do part" commitment in a relationship, you should be looking for a spouse not an escort. And actually, the same holds true for friendships between older men and younger men. No one expects a "til death us do part" commitment from their friends. Why would you hold your friends to that type of comittment? And what is all this stuff about "testing" to begin with? Relationships that involve testing usually end up with the person being tested fleeing. Sooner or later the person being tested will disappoint you. Then you are faced with the dilemma of what to about the failed test.

What is it that you are trying to prove with your test? That escorts are in it for the money? We already know that. I do know one escort well enough to have discussed this very topic with him. He only gets together with paying clients. He told me he found it satisfying and felt no need to hook up with anybody recreationally outside of work. He is very well known and very well thought of. So what does your test say about him that we don't already know? And why even think about it anyway. The fact that escorts charge for their services is a non-negotiable feature of the relationship. And of course it is not uncommon for younger men to get together with daddies for gifts, travel and favors., etc. We even have a word for them - sugarbabies. I just don't understand what you think you have discovered that we don't already know. I might think differently about it I chased younger men, but I don't. The youngest guys I go after are in their 40s. I have a social media relationship with an affluent daddy in SoCal who sponsors young bodybuilders and he talks about how he occasionally has to yank his boys' chains by threatening to cut back on the food coaching and steroids.

Whenever anyone starts to complain about the obvious - that escorts are in it for the money-as though they are the first to have discovered this dirty little secret - it makes me think that they need a new hobby.

You wrote it - whether you intended to or not.

Not all young guys are attracted to wealth and prestige. When I was in my 20's, I met my share of older men who were in positions to do a lot for me. I always kept them at arm's length because I didn't want to give them an opportunity to control me.. I had seen what being kept was like and I though "No thanks."

You might be running with the wrong crowd if you have young "friends" who need to be paid to hang with you who are not escorts. And it is true that one's options narrow the older one gets. I started preparing myself emotionally for this 30-40 years ago, so it isn't a surprise or shock that it's happened and I cope fine. One of the ways I cope is by staying very "well-kept." I have heard of situations where client and escort become close friends and it changes the relationship. But ordinarily, escorts are service providers who get paid for what they do. Why would you think that they wanted to hang out with you off the clock?

This.

In the part of the country where I grew up, barbers tended to be blue-collar Italian -Americans. The shop where my father took me for my haircut was owned by an older brother and his two younger brothers worked for him - all three of them were that Guido type of sexy - black hair, heavy beards, hairy arms, etc. . As a little boy, I swooned when any of them picked me up and put me in the barber chair to get my hair cut.

True for some, sure. But my experience as a well-kept 70 yo tells me that that there plenty of young men out there who really are attracted to men a lot older than they are.

Fuck yes! But then, I have a pretty wide nasty streak.

I think those Emily Post tipping guidelines arent that relevant anymore. Almost anyone appreciates some extra cash, Where I come from, tipping someone is often called "greasing" them. It's amazing how smooth things can go when you just spread a little bit of grease around.

I'm 70 yo. The last few years, I have been getting into guys who are well into middle age -(45 - 60) but still younger than I am. There's a 79-yo in PHX who I chat with on another app, that I am very interested in . Enough so that I might travel to PHX to see him. My husband is o 71 and we still have an active sex life, with the help of PDE5 inhibitors. I have been chatting with an early-40s leather muscleman on another app for years. Just this weekend, we agreed it's time to meet.

I'm not old enough to remember the end of WWII.

I actually have fairly bad neuropathy in my feet, legs, arms and hands. I wonder if it's the same. The last time I saw a doctor about it she did say I had polyneuropathy.

The latter

I used to have a real issue with shaved eyebrows - couldnt imagine why anyone would ruin their appearance that way. Last time I traveled on business, the head flight attendant was an extraordinarily sexy guy with a great athletic build, shaved head and eyebrows. Recently I hired a very sexy massage guy: same story - very well built, shaved head and eyebrows and he looked terrific. So I have officially changed my mind about shaved eyebrows.

I use 2 dishwasher pods on the hot cycle.

As of today, San Francisco has 68 reported cases. The first was reported June 5th.

As I remember, it just wasn't that big a deal. I think I got a booster in 6th grade. The first one might have been 4th grade or 3rd grade. You got a nasty-looking scab that always made me think of a raisin, that went away after a few weeks. There was nothing to "manage." There were strict instructions not to pick at the scab. I don't remember, but I think the scab may have fallen off after a period of time.

Ice cream from nut milks - I like it. I think cashew milk might work pretty well for ice cream - it has a nice flavor too - a little sweet, but otherwise more or less neutral. I bought my first box of macadamia milk a couple weeks ago. I like it on oatmeal.

True - the coconut flavor predominates. Since I like the coconut flavor it's OK with me.

Best advice I have read in this thread.