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For everything else? No. How about drinking alcohol?

I think saying the same thing 100 times is a bit over-the-top, even if it's a compliment, but I don't think you have any reason to be embarrassed. I once spontaneously told a guy at the end of our appointment that he was the hottest guy I ever had sex with. Now, maybe that wasn't actually true since I had been with a number of hot men but it felt like the truth in the moment since he was so sexy in my eyes. I still remember his incredulous "Really?" response. I assured him I meant what I said. I appreciated his humility. Too bad he was only visiting my area and never returned, at least not to my knowledge.

Also on Rentmen: https://rentmen.eu/MASSASF I thought he was discussed before, but searching for "massasf" didn't find anything.

I think a word was left out of the post you quoted, since I was about to make a similar point: If someone is a traveling escort who satisfies clients, it seems like the best source of business is to let satisfied clients know in advance of your visit to their area. I'm not suggesting spamming former clients repeatedly who don't become regulars, but if a client indicates at the end of the session that he'd hire the escort again when he returns to the area then it makes sense for that escort to send that client a text with his travel plans and an offer to schedule an appointment. That's how my most frequent hire became a regular for me -- he'd tell me when he was visiting, I'd book an appointment, and both of us kept our commitments.

Yes, I see that could be a problem. Funny...my initial post was going to include the suggestion that the first response be a link to a pro ad somewhere if the person initiating the contact isn't someone the escort would be interested in for a free hook-up, but then I decided to simplify the matter. I see now that it does make sense to address that possibility, and if someone is bent out of shape on seeing a brief reply to their initial message that the guy is available to hire that's on him. But I really do think that needs to happen right away, not after exchanging several messages where someone might get the impression that he's pursuing an unpaid encounter.

I agree. If soliciting isn't permitted on a given app/website, then pros shouldn't ply their game there and can just ignore messages from guys if they aren't interested in hooking up for free, just like everyone else does.

That's my issue with it. I like the anonymity of cash and the lack of a paper trail. So while I doubt it's a scam and I understand that some guys might prefer an electronic transfer, it's also reasonable that some guys might prefer cash.

I originally got the "not playable in your country" message as well, but that link works. I'll have to try your trick in the future when I see the same regional restriction message.

I just saw an ad of a traveling guy in my area (San Francisco) who, whether wise or accurate or not, decided to include in his ad that in some travel cities he is fully booked before he even arrives, mostly due to repeat customers. I'll take him at his word and assume it's true, since I cannot think of any reason to want to make potential clients assume you're too busy to see them. That is an example of a provider for whom traveling is worth it, all because he has developed his business in such a way that clients want to see him repeatedly. I've never met him even though I think he's very attractive because I'm basically on hiatus from hiring due to personal reasons. I still like window shopping, though.

It's been a long time since I was someone's first time. Fortunately I didn't cum too fast. What stands out in my mind was how the guy reacted after we both came -- overwhelming guilt/shame. I tried my best to help him feel "normal," but I'm not sure I succeeded. Just a question: If you were so turned on that you came so fast, don't you think you could have gotten it up again after a brief respite?

I think it's important to distinguish being actual danger (i.e., the provider did something or said something that was threatening or actually violent) and being worried that someone could do something to you if he wanted. Let's face it -- when getting a massage, the client is usually naked and frequently the masseur isn't (or at least doesn't start out naked). The client is face down on a massage table so he cannot see what might be going on around him. If you let your imagination run wild, you could perceive danger every time a masseur takes his hands off your body when he might just be getting more massage lotion, adjusting the heat or music, or something benign. At any rate, only once did I feel any sort of danger. I hired this masseur off Craigslist and let him into my place because he matched his photos and seemed nice enough. After I was naked he demanded that I pay him in full up front, something I never do. He also was immediately trying to upsell me by basically saying that the agreed upon rate was for a short bodyrub with him fully clothed and I had to pay more if I wanted more. To make the story shorter, I asked him to leave and started to get dressed but he basically said he wasn't going to leave unless I paid him. I ended up giving him half his fee (I don't even remember what that was, but given I hired him off Craigslist for massage his full fee was probably $100 or so) and he left. I wouldn't exactly say I was robbed, but I definitely felt scammed out of the money I paid him. There's no way I would have hired him had he communicated online what he communicated in person, and given the size/fitness level difference I didn't feel like I had any option to get him to leave other than to give him money. I was annoyed that I allowed myself to get scammed in this way, but at least grateful that he left without things getting ugly.

I'm in the camp that says to just ignore the threat. Hopefully the nude photos you shared don't include your face anyway. When I used to share a nude photo of me, it didn't include my face. Sending a fully nude photo of myself with my face included to someone I didn't know just never made sense to me. I know lots of men post naked photos in online profiles so I realize that some other men don't share the same level of privacy concern, but I just didn't want to run the risk of problems at work related to naked photos of myself being seen by people who shouldn't see them.

Given the nature of this board, I'm sure most members here have either had a stranger over to their place or gone to a stranger's place. My practice is always to meet people outside, though, if they are coming over to me; I don't feel comfortable just opening the door and letting someone in right away. I want to not only see them first, but also have a minute to talk with them on the way to my condo. I agree with Kevin that you were reasonable to want to meet in a public place and that the other guy not immediately deferring to your preference was problematic. More than likely the guy was just being clueless, not intentionally offensive. It doesn't matter what the "norm" is, though. You do what works for you.

San Francisco must still work for some traveling escorts since some guys seem to visit here for a few days to a week every few months. I think that being a successful traveling escort makes sense for a guy who is able to connect with clients in a way that they want to hire them again when they return to their area. If clients have a "one and done" attitude towards someone they hired, then with each visit to a particular area the escort has a smaller pool of potential clients.

Sexual attraction for me has always worked in two ways: There are men who, on first glance, catch my attention. In other words, they are lookers -- at least to my eyes. This is a relatively small percentage of men. Then there are men who might not initially catch my eye but once I look a little more I see their attractive qualities. This is a much, much larger group of men. I've enjoyed sex with men from each category and I've had boring sex with men from each, too. All things considered, I generally think I prefer to be with someone who turns me on but who doesn't look like a model.

I've stumbled across Hot.com when I search an escort's phone number to see if he has ads on any site other than where I found him (which is typically Rentmen). Or sometimes a reverse image search, though I rarely do that any more as I mostly just get nonsensical search results when searching by image.

I'd rather look at him than listen to him (I only made it to the minute mark in that awful song), but I'm not really that motivated to look at him, either. I mean, he's nice looking but I already follow a lot of hotter guys on Instagram just to look at their sexy photos.

The number of guys I've hired is in the low hundreds. Outside of that, I really have no idea. I stopped keeping track in my 20s when I reached 50. I've never been particularly sexually active outside of relationships, so my number is probably a lot lower than many other guys here -- maybe a total of a few hundred.

He could be cute if it weren't for all of the tattoos (particularly on the face) and the drugged-out zombie look in his eyes.

Before I opened this thread, I thought it was going to be a complaint about guys cumming on the face instead of on the tongue. 😛😋

It makes sense to me that he might not respond if he has no formal training, given the way you asked the question. Your inquiry expressed a desire to hire someone with formal training, and if he doesn't have that then there really was no reason to keep a conversation going. I think that if you asked something more open ended like "Do you have any formal training or are you self-taught" that would have left the door open.

Maybe it's just me, but I could not log in using my old password. I clicked the forgot password link, was sent an email, and then logged in creating a new password. Problem is I use this site on two different computers, and the new password wouldn't work on my second computer, using either my email address or user name. So I clicked "forgot password" again and clicked the link in the email and logged back in, setting a new password. I hope the next time I try to access the site it logs me in automatically or at least accepts the password I enter.

That sounds so odd. Why would he go through the motion of telling you that even if his ad disappeared because he was taking time off that you could set something up by calling his cell if he wanted to not see you again? I guess if you really do want to see him again, you can call his cell to see if your number has been blocked from calling him as well. Otherwise maybe he blocked you from seeing his ad for another reason, the first of which that occurs to me is that you don't have a way to submit a review if you cannot see his ad while logged in. Maybe he does that in order to prevent bad reviews if he's not certain the client is happy? All in all, I'd just say to consider yourself lucky that you enjoyed your appointment with him and leave his confusing drama behind.

Do you mean the profile is inaccessible to you when you are logged in but you know his ad is still there because you can see it while not logged in?

Well, the Church/Market Street area is definitely better than the Tenderloin area Karl used to live in, but sadly the Church/Market area is no longer as nice as it used to be. Then again, many areas of San Francisco aren't as nice as they used to be.