sam.fitzpatrick

3 hours ago, Unicorn said:

No, I've never served on a jury. Attorneys always want the biggest numbskulls they can find to put on their juries, since these are people they can persuade with fancy argument rather than hard facts. Ergo I'm always excused. As you pointed out, the verdict has to be unanimous, so each and every juror is personally responsible for the fate of the convict. A juror cannot simply declare that he was "simply going with the crowd" to absolve himself of his responsibility. I realize that judges put tremendous social and financial pressure on jurors (at least in the US), telling them (falsely) it's "their duty" to come to a unanimous decision, instead of coming to their own conclusions. In fact, they usually will force them into interminable involuntary servitude until the jurors have "done their duty," letting it be known that anything but a unanimous decision is unacceptable. That being said, I personally find it absolutely horrifying that a juror feels a lack of answerability to his decision, claiming "it's the other 11 people who made me do it." 

I also find it telling--and not at all surprising--that you're unwilling to reveal what iron-clad evidence was presented that led to your unassailable conclusion that there was no way she didn't just change her mind after the fact. Hopefully that iron-clad evidence didn't simply consist of the woman's tearful protestations. 

With your thoughts of the judicial system, I hope you are never the victim or a relative of one that is needs an independent jury to evaluate the evidence.   

You hadn't previously asked for the evidence of why I believed the victim did not change her mind.  Here it is:  (1) there were several witnesses that testified that she had declined his advances earlier in the evening, (2) both the victim and accused confirmed that the victim was asleep when the incident started, (3) the accused indicated that while they were long-time friends, she had said no when he had previously asked her out on dates nor had she expressed a desire for a sexual relationship with him, and (4) the accused admitted that he had never asked her to be physical with her, nor had the victim asked him to be physical with her.

I agree with you that every juror is responsible the verdict that was reached.  I used the full jury to demonstrate that when this jury was unanimous, it removed any doubt from my mind that the jury reached the correct verdicts. 

Lastly, I didn't mention the verdict on the rape charge.  You wrongly assumed that we found the defendant guilty of rape.  While the jurors believed that the contact between the victim and accused was non-consensual, we found the accused "not guilty" of the rape charge.  Our state law requires penile penetration in the vagina for it to be rape.  I didn't believe that there was any evidence of penetration as the rape kit only reflected the boyfriend's (not the accused) although the accused DNA did appear on the victim's bra and panties.  Again, I rest comfortable that the verdicts we reached on each count were correct according to the law, despite the law, in my opinion, being flawed in this case.

11 hours ago, Unicorn said:

.....I don't know the facts of the case in which you were a juror. I would certainly hope that the case you ruled on was entirely different, in that there was firm evidence that there was essentially no chance the apparent victim didn't simply change her mind later. Otherwise, I find it disconcerting that you could go to bed each night without being bothered by the fact that you may have put an innocent man in the slammer, labeled a sexual predator for the rest of his life. Given the fact that you seem to distort reality to the point of calling this emotional hug "placing her hands," I certainly have concerns regarding your ability to assess reality objectively and with an open mind, and hope you didn't destroy an innocent man. 

Have you never served on a jury?  I would think that you would know that a jury reaches a unanimous decision to reach a verdict and that I was not a sole decider.  As you stated, you do not know the facts of the case, nor do you know the composition of the jury or the length of our deliberations.   I have no problems sleeping for the verdict results.  

As to my use of the words "placing her hands" on him.  If you review the video again, you will see that the emotional hugs were between many of the players and those in the receiving line.  In this case, the kiss occurred after the hug and she placed her hands at his waist as the kiss occurred.  It was the latter action that I was recalling when typing those words. 

We both have strong opinions, but in this case, I will defend my ability to assess reality objectively and open-mindedly.  

@augustus, @BSR, and @BOZO T CLOWN

I've watched the video of the kiss.  Even if innocent, it was not appropriate.  In the workplace, one employee doesn't spontaneously kiss another colleague on the lips to celebrate closing the biggest deal in the company's history.  This is no different - and it doesn't matter the gender of the two parties.

I had responsibility to sit on a jury in a rape trial where the victim didn't react when the act happened because she couldn't process at the time what was happening.  This happened so quickly, that the lack of reaction and even her placing her hands on him should no way be taken as an acceptance of the kiss.  And this was in front of a live audience both in the stadium and on television.  I'm sure this wasn't a scenario given to the team members that could happen with instructions on the proper protocol to stop it from happening.  Should she have slapped his face or kneed him in the groin?

The team member that was kissed has stated that she did not enjoy it and was embarrassed by it.  

On 8/28/2023 at 5:54 PM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

If you want to see how much society has changed, watch old movies from the 30's, 40's, 50's, and 60's. Women were tougher back then and were not threatened by men. They could handle themselves if men got out of line.  Bozo is not advocating for sexual harassment, but I do think when things are innocent, they are innocent, and this clearly was. Kissing with a peck on the lips, grabbing the back of someone's head in celebration is cultural. It's not sexual. Women today are way too uptight, no wonder many are so unhappy. They are fed all this propaganda that in many ways is just dehumanizing people.

BoZo

This example is of scripted scenes when the women knew what was going to happen and had male directors giving them the instruction to act this way.  Not a fair comparison.

13 hours ago, ICTJOCK said:

 The comment from the proposed client was that I would be "missing out" on a profitable time.

Any time I hear this line in my professional world from a client or vendor, my "spidey-senses" start tingling and  I know there will be problems.  It simply reinforces that my initial decision to say "no" was correct.  

As a client, escorts have flown to visit me (or meet in travel destination) once or twice a year.  I feel if I'm requesting them to visit me, I'm willing to cover the airfare.  I've found sometimes when meeting in a destination other than my hometown, I don't mind a provider extending their stay beyond our time together.  Sometimes, flying in a day earlier, it gives us more time together on the first day, or lessens the rush to the airport on the last day.  It can also provide some cost savings on the airfare as it may allow you to avoid a high demand travel date where airfares are higher.

That is different than an escort contacting me to see if I've been interested in a session if he was visiting my hometown.  In those cases I would expect the provider to cover his travel expenses.

On 8/14/2023 at 9:24 PM, BuffaloKyle said:

I don't follow anyone so not sure much about this subject but what if you unfollow and refollow them?

Great idea.  That seemed to work.

I am not receiving notifications when some of the members I follow make posts on the site.  I checked my follow member list and noticed that members I began following after May 21, 2021 indicate that I will receive notifications; however, the other members I have been following longer indicate "No Notifications."  Is there a way to enable notifications for those members?

On 7/28/2023 at 8:28 AM, dutchal said:

Could you give us a letter rating on each of his massage skills and the extras?  Thanks!

I continue to see him when I visit Indy, although I've not been able to squeeze in a massage on every visit home.    His manscaping services I'd give an A.  His massage is an A as well; he often finds some knots I'm unaware of until his hands are on me.   The extras he offers are good and also receive an A.  

17 hours ago, Indiana muscle admirer said:

I’m the original poster.  I’ve since seen Christopher 3 or 4 times.  He’s such a nice, kind, very intelligent and interesting person, who just happens to also be incredibly hot, and is a good masseur as well.  

Don’t hesitate to book him!

These comments are spot on!

6 hours ago, dutchal said:

Anybody know who the hot guy on the table is?

I think this is the guy.

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It's been in my nightstand to read for at least three years.  I need to get to it.

I find the premise of this thread to be misguided.  Full-time sex work is real life.   It would be akin to saying that actors are not successful in real life.

@sf westcoaster - Cheers to you on this nineteenth day of June!  I'm sitting down for my morning coffee thinking of many times we've started the day at Inndulge's poolside breakfast sharing stories and discussing current events (often as current as the prior night's goings on.)  That start of the day is always a highlight of my trips to Palm Springs. 

Just wanted you to know that you are being celebrated in Ohio today.  May you have the happiest of birthdays!

"Sam"

Having seen @Epigonos's recommendation last fall, I kept planning to meet @COLTONN in Ohio, but just didn't get around to it.  Then he appeared at @Oliver's pool party in April.  He was well liked by many of the attendees, and I knew that I would enjoy spending one on one time with him.  Last week, I was honored to host him in Columbus.  He lived up to all of Epigonos's accolades and is truly a top-notch provider.  

I have enjoyed my times with Josh.

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4 hours ago, brad7878 said:

Love Babylon mens spa on Wilton drive. Also had both excellent and not so good experiences at Green Jade. Both Asian operated. also you should get a guest pass to the Cabanas and hang by the pool and cruise in the little steam room there. 

Last time used the Cabana's Spa, you could enjoy the resort for the day without an extra fee for the guest pass.

I have sold some of my paperpack books - mostly gay mystery, but some erotica,  at Half Priced Books.  I was surprised as many of those books received a better offer than similar straight mysteries that I enjoy reading.

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20 hours ago, glutes said:

As part of my due diligence with a not known provider here on COM, I text and ask if I can call them.

His response today when I did ask, "What do you want?"

I sorta understand the response.  If you wanted to talk, why not dial rather than text?  

I've stayed at or visited on day passes several different clothing optional resorts in all three locations.  I am approaching 60.  

In Palm Springs, I think you can pretty much be comfortable in any of the locations as long as you are picking the level of slutiness you are looking for.  For me, based on stories I've heard from others, All Worlds is probably too much about the hook up and I've not visited there.  

In Fort Lauderdale, I would recommend Cabanas or Pineapple Point and have stayed at each several times - room availability often dictating where I stay.  I've also heard good things about the Grand from friends over 50; however, I have not personally stayed there.  

In Key West, you should be fine at any location.  

Good luck in your exploration.

4 hours ago, Capitano said:

OK, almost there! 🙂

Although I still don't understand why 30 additional minutes at his place are more expensive than the prior 60 minutes. 😉

Here is a sensible pricing scheme if one's hourly rate is X and the charge to go to a client's place is Y:

One hour incall: X

90 minutes incall: AT MOST 1.5*X, although a little discount would be nice if the masseur doesn't find longer appointments particularly exhausting.

One hour outcall: X + Y

90 minutes outcall: AT MOST 1.5*X + Y, although a little discount wold be nice.

I know a masseur who uses a similar pricing structure.  He explained it this way:  After working 9-5, he can book two one-hour appointments and still provide a good service, usually a 7:00 and a 9:00.  If someone wants a 90-minute appointment, he doesn't book the second appointment.  Thus for him to justify cutting into his business, he charges more than 1.5x his 60-minute fee for the longer session.  As a result, he almost always books one-hour appointments.

I get BeefyDude's point of view.  I can understand why it would be frustrating for the OP to see five responses to an inquiry about someone's massage skills, but all that is mentioned are the physical attributes without any information addressing the question posed.

9 minutes ago, StarQualityLuke said:

I'm sorry what is MT? 

Mutual Touch

3 hours ago, colonexstacy said:

is there MT and HE?

I can only speak for an erotic session - yes.

Anyone with experience since 2020 with Karl?  A friend saw him then and recommends him.  Thanks?

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