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https://rent.men/Roxas_caelum Both long and surprisingly thick (in that it's broad) around the middle. Gets very hard with good technique.

On My list:
https://rent.men/phatrabbitkiller  (Unfortuantely doesn't get out of the US much.)
https://rent.men/Luccas_paulo (aka Luccas Toblerone. I had a really good text conversation with him but then he flaked on our appointment. Next time.)
https://rent.men/FullmetalTwunk  (He's not great at making future reservations but he visits Paris quite often. Still trying.).

Not RM:
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/peuops-ramos/ (usually in São Paulo. Texted back and forth but we kept missing each other. Getting more popular. Some pretty good videos out there where he brutalizes Felipinho Souza. https://justthegays.com/video/275221-novinho26cm-peuops-ramos-fucks-felipinho-souza-102524/
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rick-28cm/  (Good luck in trying to get a hold of him. Still trying.)
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rodrigo-26cm-2/  (Been on TimTales a bit. https://www.timtales.com/the-men/rodrigo/ A known crook who will probably try to cheat you but damn that was a nice cock!)
 

https://rent.men/Roxas_caelum Both long and surprisingly thick (in that it's broad) around the middle. Gets very hard with good technique.

On My list:
https://rent.men/phatrabbitkiller  (Unfortuantely doesn't get out of the US much.)
https://rent.men/Luccas_paulo (aka Luccas Toblerone. I had a really good text conversation with him but then he flaked on our appointment. Next time.)
https://rent.men/FullmetalTwunk  (He's not great at making future reservations but he visits Paris quite often. Still trying.).

Not RM:
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/peuops-ramos/ (usually in São Paulo. Texted back and forth but we kept missing each other. Getting more popular. Some pretty good videos out there where he brutalizes Felipinho Souza. https://justthegays.com/video/275221-novinho26cm-peuops-ramos-fucks-felipinho-souza-102524/
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rick-28cm/  (Good luck in trying to get a hold of him. Still trying.)
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rodrigo-26cm-2/  (Been on TimTales a bit. https://www.timtales.com/the-men/rodrigo/ A known crook who will probably try to cheat you but damn that was a nice cock!)
 

https://rent.men/Roxas_caelum Both long and surprisingly thick (in that it's broad) around the middle. Gets very hard with good technique.

On My list:
https://rent.men/phatrabbitkiller  (Unfortuantely doesn't get out of the US much.)
https://rent.men/Luccas_paulo (aka Luccas Toblerone. I had a really good text conversation with him but then he flaked on our appointment. Next time.)
https://rent.men/FullmetalTwunk  (He's not great at making future reservations but he visits Paris quite often. Still trying.).

Not RM:
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/peuops-ramos/ (usually in São Paulo. Texted back and forth but we kept missing each other. Getting more popular. Some pretty good videos out there where he brutalizes Felipinho Souza. https://justthegays.com/video/275221-novinho26cm-peuops-ramos-fucks-felipinho-souza-102524/
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rick-28cm/  (Good luck in trying to get a hold of him. Still trying.)
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rodrigo-26cm-2/  (Been on TimTales a bit. https://www.timtales.com/the-men/rodrigo/ A known crook who will probably try to cheat you but damn that was a nice cock!)
 

https://rent.men/Roxas_caelum Both long and surprisingly thick (in that it's broad) around the middle. Gets very hard with good technique.

On My list:
https://rent.men/phatrabbitkiller  (Unfortuantely doesn't get out of the US much.)
https://rent.men/Luccas_paulo (aka Luccas Toblerone. I had a really good text conversation with him but then he flaked on our appointment. Next time.)
https://rent.men/FullmetalTwunk  (He's not great at making future reservations but he visits Paris quite often. Still trying.).

Not RM:
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/peuops-ramos/ (usually in São Paulo. Texted back and forth but we kept missing each other. Getting more popular. Some pretty good videos out there where he brutalizes Felipinho Souza. https://justthegays.com/video/275221-novinho26cm-peuops-ramos-fucks-felipinho-souza-102524/
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rick-28cm/  (Good luck in trying to get a hold of him. Still trying.)
https://garotocomlocal.com.br/acompanhante-masculino/rodrigo-26cm-2/  (Been on TimTales a bit. https://www.timtales.com/the-men/rodrigo/ A known crook who will probably try to cheat you but damn that was a nice cock!)
 

https://rent.men/Roxas_caelum It's a beautiful endowment. Long, thick in the middle which feels wonderful when it's used with skill - which he has. Helped immeasurably by the fact that he's stunningly beautiful and a very sweet man.

https://rent.men/RayDieselXXX  Not as thick as he thinks it is but still pretty thick. He talks too much.
https://rent.men/CaioVeyronXXX  It's not the thickest by any means but it's thick enough and very long.( I didn't ask him to be aggressive enough because I was gun shy after this guy the day before: https://rent.men/GabrielXXLThick) No pictures do justice to this man. In person he is probably the most beautiful man I've ever seen and one of the most professional (rare) and polite.

https://rent.men/FranklinPornStar  It's seriously thick. He wasn't engaged, however, and came within 15 minutes saying my ass was too active and he couldn't stop (yeah sure).
Just got back from São Paulo for Pride. The Brazilians seem to grow them thick. Too many there to mention.

I met him yers ago in Sao paulo and he was amazing and friendly 

Esteban fucked me once and I guess I caught him on a great day because I rode his HUGE cock and got him off by riding him and then he turned me over and fucked me doggy style so he came twice and it was pretty fun.
Big Ransom is a fucking legend. He is rather enormous and he takes his time.He especially likes it if he can really dig into your second hole and really open you up. The guy is super sexy and can also come twice.
MrBignThick on RM, is a lot of fun. He’s very sweet and SEXY and he kisses and has a huge dick and he really knows how to use it.
Years and years ago, probably 10 years ago Rocco Steele totally opened me up and really pounded me and he was very sweet. I don’t think he’s an escort anymore.
OsirisXXX has a big beautiful cock and he’s very handsome and sexy with a gorgeous body. He kisses too.
About six or seven years ago Phatrabbitkiller fucked me at a hotel in LA and Jesus Christ, that thing was gigantic thick and long. He’s very dominant and likes to go super deep and then he really fucked me hard.
Sirock_twelve in LA. Probably one of my absolute favorites amazing body and an absolutely gigantic cock knows how to use it and he also really liked getting into my second hole and pounding, and he gave me two loads.

Caio has a very nice flat in South Kensington in London. I made an appointment with him 5 weeks in advance (rare for a provider to be that organized) and sent him a deposit (he's not cheap but ...). At one point he needed to move the appointment and politely asked if it was possible. We agreed on a new time and it went off without a problem. A rare level of professionalism I'm finding.

After 9 years of waiting, following Air Canada’s switch to São Paulo direct exclusively, Air Transat is introducing 3 non-stop return flights a week to Rio de Janeiro. Departure from Montreal YUL Thursday evening, return departures GIG Friday morning. I believe the Toronto YYZ departures are Wednesday and Saturday evening, returning the following day, similarly departing Rio in the morning. Hooray, at least spared one direction the dreaded overnighter. 
However, only seasonally in 2026 at this point: Feb, Mar, Apr.
The Club Class, 12 seats in 2 rows in 2-2-2 semI-recline has been trending at about CAD$2000 return fare. I would think it’s a bit of an upgrade from Premium Economy products. I checked a few dates within those months for Air Canada to GRU, or connecting to GIG or SDU, and Premium Economy prices were up to twice that of Air Transat Club Class. 

From my understanding, the youth call this "Heteroflexible" and it's basically just situational horniness ("a hole is a hole" scenario) and not based on any actual attraction.
Those notions aren't absurd, but they just lack nuance/detail. In my opinion. With all the orientation/labels talk in general. I think examples like you gave here is where the sexual orientation labels we currently have have become out dated. I generally was of the mind that if you as a man do anything with guys more than your one time "experiment" free pass everyone gets then you're at the very least, not able to claim being totally straight because if you like it enough to do it again...
Doesn't necessarily mean you get flung to the polar opposite end of the spectrum and are suddenly homosexual, but you can't still stick to "i'm 100% straight, bro, i only like women (even though i get serviced by men regularly)" either. Just because it's "service" doesn't negate that it's still sexual interactions with other men. Straight means being exclusively into women, so... Yeah there's just no way around that. However, those guys do fall somewhere in the middle, and i think the real answer is that the middle is a lot bigger than just "bisexual". In more recent years i've met guys who've explained their sexual and romantic feelings and there's definitely some guys who have more going on than just being bi.
I've noticed some young people differentiate between sexual attraction/activity and romantic attraction. To some those are two different things that aren't always tied to each other. So when you do that, certain kinds of people suddenly make more sense. A lot of these "straight" guys are effectively heteroflexible or bisexual but are romantically hetero-romantic (are only romantically attracted/exclusively date the opposite gender), which is basically what the Romans were doing back in the day where they'd all be banging each other on the battle field for convenience and social dominance amongst each other and then come home to their wives and that was just normal. I've known guys who are homoflexible as well and known people who are bisexual but homo-romantic too.
There are even people who identify as Asexual (which in the human perspective just means they aren't into sex at all), but those people obviously usually still have romantic attraction that can be to the same, opposite, or all genders (homo-romantic, hetero-romantic, or bi-romantic respectively) as well. I recently learned of a term for people who are physically attracted specifically to gender presentation (as in which gender the person they're attracted to LOOKS like and not which gender they are anatomically). Which would apply to all those men who litter my Grindr grid who identify as straight but are only on the app for fem-boys and trans women for example.
One friend of mine is like this, he likes cis-gender women but also trans women, and with trans women he's ok with if they haven't had the bottom surgery yet if they otherwise can pass as a woman. What's down there isn't relevant to his attraction to them, it's just about the overall presentation being "woman". Gay/bi men attracted to trans men who haven't had bottom surgery yet are in that same boat.
I can already feel a lot of people here who are old school collectively rolling their eyes and going "ugh that's a bunch of young people B.S., let's just have no labels!" but i personally don't like the idea of having no labels and i also think it's a lazy notion. Trying to find something in a grocery store where the aisles and the products all have no labels is an objectively terrible experience if you're trying to find something specific, or even just browsing.
Having no labels beyond gay/bi/straight is like if zoologists stopped at categorizing Mammals with just Primates, and then didn't go further to differentiate between Humans, Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans cause they didn't feel like having to learn more. The only reason why labeling things is annoying and makes us feel put in a box is because the labels we do have aren't appropriate and are too general, but the concept of labels overall isn't actually the problem.
When things are identified thoroughly and correctly, it doesn't feel like a box you're being incorrectly stuffed into. Which then negates any confusion and anxiety that comes from feeling like you're in the wrong box. But we as a society aren't ready for that. Lot of people to this day can barely acknowledge the bi in the gay/bi/straight trichotomy as is 🤣

CaioVeyronXXX
JP Dubois

I've encountered this before. When I asked the provider (through previous contact info) he told me that this was by design and that he had removed himself from RM searches. It appears that this is a facility available to providers. Maybe a provider on this forum can enlighten us?

I agree with you. I just returned from Mexico City and I would have to say I was disappointed. The scene there is almost entirely dominate by sex clubs (Dallas, Paradise, Sexto Piso). The one supposed "European Style Sauna", So.Do.Me, apart from its hours ,is really indistinguishable form the sex clubs. These are all dominate by a much younger crowd that have no interest in someone of more "mature years." I can have much more success at my local Steamworks.
So I think I will be returning to Brazil next.

- This is long so I’ve added headings to let you skip the parts that are boring.
Aknowledgments
I hope this is helpful for someone contemplating their first trip to Brazil. This is my way of giving back to the many people on here who helped me with their generous advice in the various postings. Thanks.
Please forgive the ramblings and injudicious assumptions of a neophyte and be kind in your comments.
Context
After 41 years I’m a widower trying to distract myself from the realities of living alone. I’m also a bit of a sex fiend so … what better distraction. I’m still in good shape for my age. About the same weight as when I was 25. Yes this was a trip to see the largest Pride Parade in the world but it was really a sex vacation - and I had a lot of it - in just five days!
The Trip
This was fast. I have two kids (cats) that I can’t leave for more than a week, so that limits my vacation. I like it short and intense anyway. 10h direct Toronto to SP overnight. Four days in SP. Morning flight to Rio. 24 hrs in Rio. Afternoon flight back to SP, change airports and overnight back to Toronto.
The Pride Parade
Yes it was spectacular. Worth seeing once. I’m glad I chose to stay where I did. Probably the only hotel with rooms overlooking Paulista. I could see the crowd without having to be in it. The room was overpriced but as a first timer it was safe, gringo friendly and couldn’t be better located. Next time there are really nice upscale (but cheap) AirBNBs in Consolação.
Safety
This issue has been done to death so I just add my brief experience. I have some tolerance for sketchy neighbourhoods but I’m fairly prudent (Toronto: the gay neighbourhood can be rough at night. Our homeless are often severely drug damaged and wild. LA: my introduction to the city in 1989 was driving in from LAX and meeting a fully armed take down in front of the old Spagos’ in West Hollywood. I was maintaining  a fibreoptic-switch at USC during the Rodney King riots. Amsterdam: in the 90’s I’d regularly cross Vondel park in the early hours). SP: I kept to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista, and a little Jardim. Mostly during the day although I often walked back from Lagoa in the evening. I didn’t have any safety concerns at all. Once (because I got my directions wrong) I ended up looking for an address in Republica in a very sketchy neighbourhood. NOT advised. I was in a more upscale part of Republica later (Aurora) but … if you must Uber in and out. Chili Pepper - just Uber in and out (hide your phone - it’s not difficult - I’d never go anywhere without it).
Rio: I think in planning I swapped hotels four times looking for a place for just one night - mostly over safety concerns. In the end I was right next to Copacabana Palace ( a place I would never stay at). The place I stayed was already to gringo overlord infested for my liking but as a first visit… I Ubered to Club 117 on the Tuesday night and on the Wednesday morning I walked the Copacabana and Ipanema beaches walking back one street in. At that time in the morning, if prudent, it appeared reasonably safe. There’s a lot more homeless here than in SP. Ipanema is quiet - very residential. Copacabana is all hotels, tourists and tourist hustle.
São Paulo: Espaço Lagoa
Wow! Kid in a candy store! And I was popping them like candies (or they were popping me). The numbers, the size, the girth - just amazing. The thing was, it wasn’t just their physical attributes, their beauty (omg Brazilian men are stunning) or the number of them but also their smiles and friendliness. I know it’s a business and they’re good at their jobs but I felt these guys were especially good at the “customer relations” side. They wanted you back; they wanted to build a relationship. I came back every day for four days and they were there hugging me. And part of that of course is that I’m a generous tipper. This is a very tough life and I can’t help it. I’m sure the news travelled (every day their price went up). The last day I only had time for three. They were all fabulous. They were beautiful and beautifully endowed. They performed with real passion, energy and aggression - really draining themselves. They may be good actors but they made it seem like the real thing to me. It was fun.
São Paulo: Chili Pepper
This was on the Sunday just after the Pride Parade. I probably got there too early although it was quite busy. Probably one of the nicest and largest saunas I’ve ever been in (maybe Hollywood Spa in LA or Thermos in Amsterdam). The layout sucks. All the rooms are at the back with next to zero traffic. Almost everyone (a predominantly Millennial and younger crowd) were concentrated in the 2nd floor dark area humping like rabbits. I scored two reasonable hits. In the end I’m not sure it’s a place for me.
Rio: Club 117
I went on a Tuesday, too early because I had a later appointment. Rooms were free. I really didn’t see enough to pass judgement. The sex I had was very good. Physically, technically excellent. It was however a bit robotic. There was a sense of trying to always encourage the extra fee, to maximize the revenue now without any interest that we might meet again. This is what I call the “tourist hustle” and It’s what Rio is all about. There’s little “client relationship” and it’s all about making as much now as possible. Maybe I’m being too harsh. I’ll see next time. 
RM & Garotocomlocal
There’s little of what’s available in Brazil on RM. A few of the upscale creators with northern links (Timtales) Good luck in trying to get a response from them. For most providers I think the subscription fees would be a killer. Grorocomlocal.com.br has 1028 providers listed for São Paulo and 458 for Rio de Janeiro. There is some form of certification and subscription but I’m not sure how much or how good it is. I don’t trust it that much - it’s a step up from BackPages but maybe not that much. I when to Brazil with the intent of hiring just like RM since I had no experience of places like Lagoa. I had a Brasilian number and communicated in Portuguese through WhatsApp. I put out requests to twelve providers. Seven never responded. Two asked for pictures (I sent my RM link). They ghosted me. I hired the remaining 3 with one ripping me off. In the end Lagoa is better and safer.
São Paulo vs Rio
- Caveat: I don’t go out walking at night so judge accordingly
So … I like big cities. I live in Canada’s mini-manhattan (haha). And SP is Manhattan writ large. I stuck to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista and a little bit of Jardim. All very walkable - provided you don’t mind hills. That took me by surprise. I knew the areas quite well from studying the maps except I didn’t understand there were so many damn hills! It’s like San Francisco. In fact there’s a real feel of that in Jardim. Other parts feel like LA. There’s a funkiness about the restaurants and bars in Consolação (the gayborhood) that isn’t either. The people are friendly but don’t expect a lot of English. Yes there are probably a lot of tourists there but it’s so damn big it doesn’t influence the city at all. Security is everywhere. It must be the biggest industry in Brasil. Even the smallest retailer ha a security guard. Military Police cars are cruising along Paulista every two minutes. Not so much beyond, however.
Rio is tourists. Copacabana is wall to wall hotels on one side and tourists stalls on the other. As a result English is more common although not really anymore common among the gorotos. Ipanema is much more residential with only  a few hotels. The condos are immaculately kept and all hermetically sealed behind secure walls and cameras. Being there, close to boteco Belmonte, would be ideal. I left feeling like I should have stayed longer and seen more. I still feel that way but I feel like it’s likely to be one and done. I don’t see it as a regular destination. I’m intrigued by Salvador. As my old friend Nelson Freire used to say “o tempo dirá” - time will tell.

Things To Look Out For
* Be careful as a pedestrian in SP and Rio. The crossings aren’t well indicated and where they are just because you have a green light doesn’t mean the cars will give you right of way. Stay alert!
* ATMs appeared to be more aggressively scalping you than I remember in Europe. Their exchange rate is ridiculously low and they tack on a hefty fee if you refuse and use your bank’s. Try and take cash with you. (I did but I got greedy and needed more. In some situations, however, greed was good).
* I didn’t get to explore much in Rio but I never came across an ATM or a bank (security?). Thankfully there was an ATM in my hotel. In SP (of course I was staying on Paulista) they were everywhere.
* Generally food is not spectacular. It’s like one big Denny’s. It’s serviceable. There are plenty of Michelin starred restaurants to try but I’m not good at eating alone in a restaurant and without the language …
* Carry a power bank! The last thing you want is to be stuck with a phone running out of charge. It’s your life line (Uber is your friend).
* They were starting to install contactless bank payment at the metro Consolação. Soon all major cities will have this so no need for specific metro passes.
Things I Would Change
* Spend more time in Rio. The place is magical and despite the limitations (see above) there’s a lot of good sex to be had. You can be prudent without being paranoid.
* Never try to change airports in SP in one day. Leave yourself room if you have to do it. It’s too nerve racking.
* Learn at least rudimentary Portuguese. I had tried but .. Google Translate only takes you so far. It’s tough to use when you get a WhatsApp from one provider while getting fucked by another.
 

My experience tells me you’re the exception with a quick reply when “available now”. 

I’m no doctor but this concerns me a little. If you’re not yet 40 that seems too young to be getting up 2-3 times a night to pee. Prior to 40 - hell, prior to 50 - I was still sleeping through the night without nocturnal bathroom visits. Sure, 8 hours dry became 7, which later became 6. Now at 61, 2 times to pee is normal, 3 if I had iced tea at dinner. “Edge and Vitality?” Pshaw. Fund your retirement, keep (or get) your credit card debt under control, get 6 months of expenses in reserve, make sure you have at least 1 good suit in your closet (don’t forget a white dress shirt, conservative tie and lace-up dress shoes) and f*ck (or at least cum) whenever you get the chance. But talk to your primary care physician about all those nighttime bathroom visits. At your age that doesn’t add up. 

I agree with you. I just returned from Mexico City and I would have to say I was disappointed. The scene there is almost entirely dominate by sex clubs (Dallas, Paradise, Sexto Piso). The one supposed "European Style Sauna", So.Do.Me, apart from its hours ,is really indistinguishable form the sex clubs. These are all dominate by a much younger crowd that have no interest in someone of more "mature years." I can have much more success at my local Steamworks.
So I think I will be returning to Brazil next.

I agree with you. I just returned from Mexico City and I would have to say I was disappointed. The scene there is almost entirely dominate by sex clubs (Dallas, Paradise, Sexto Piso). The one supposed "European Style Sauna", So.Do.Me, apart from its hours ,is really indistinguishable form the sex clubs. These are all dominate by a much younger crowd that have no interest in someone of more "mature years." I can have much more success at my local Steamworks.
So I think I will be returning to Brazil next.

He has always been good looking but lost some weight recently and is PERFECTION PERSONIFIED NOW!

- This is long so I’ve added headings to let you skip the parts that are boring.
Aknowledgments
I hope this is helpful for someone contemplating their first trip to Brazil. This is my way of giving back to the many people on here who helped me with their generous advice in the various postings. Thanks.
Please forgive the ramblings and injudicious assumptions of a neophyte and be kind in your comments.
Context
After 41 years I’m a widower trying to distract myself from the realities of living alone. I’m also a bit of a sex fiend so … what better distraction. I’m still in good shape for my age. About the same weight as when I was 25. Yes this was a trip to see the largest Pride Parade in the world but it was really a sex vacation - and I had a lot of it - in just five days!
The Trip
This was fast. I have two kids (cats) that I can’t leave for more than a week, so that limits my vacation. I like it short and intense anyway. 10h direct Toronto to SP overnight. Four days in SP. Morning flight to Rio. 24 hrs in Rio. Afternoon flight back to SP, change airports and overnight back to Toronto.
The Pride Parade
Yes it was spectacular. Worth seeing once. I’m glad I chose to stay where I did. Probably the only hotel with rooms overlooking Paulista. I could see the crowd without having to be in it. The room was overpriced but as a first timer it was safe, gringo friendly and couldn’t be better located. Next time there are really nice upscale (but cheap) AirBNBs in Consolação.
Safety
This issue has been done to death so I just add my brief experience. I have some tolerance for sketchy neighbourhoods but I’m fairly prudent (Toronto: the gay neighbourhood can be rough at night. Our homeless are often severely drug damaged and wild. LA: my introduction to the city in 1989 was driving in from LAX and meeting a fully armed take down in front of the old Spagos’ in West Hollywood. I was maintaining  a fibreoptic-switch at USC during the Rodney King riots. Amsterdam: in the 90’s I’d regularly cross Vondel park in the early hours). SP: I kept to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista, and a little Jardim. Mostly during the day although I often walked back from Lagoa in the evening. I didn’t have any safety concerns at all. Once (because I got my directions wrong) I ended up looking for an address in Republica in a very sketchy neighbourhood. NOT advised. I was in a more upscale part of Republica later (Aurora) but … if you must Uber in and out. Chili Pepper - just Uber in and out (hide your phone - it’s not difficult - I’d never go anywhere without it).
Rio: I think in planning I swapped hotels four times looking for a place for just one night - mostly over safety concerns. In the end I was right next to Copacabana Palace ( a place I would never stay at). The place I stayed was already to gringo overlord infested for my liking but as a first visit… I Ubered to Club 117 on the Tuesday night and on the Wednesday morning I walked the Copacabana and Ipanema beaches walking back one street in. At that time in the morning, if prudent, it appeared reasonably safe. There’s a lot more homeless here than in SP. Ipanema is quiet - very residential. Copacabana is all hotels, tourists and tourist hustle.
São Paulo: Espaço Lagoa
Wow! Kid in a candy store! And I was popping them like candies (or they were popping me). The numbers, the size, the girth - just amazing. The thing was, it wasn’t just their physical attributes, their beauty (omg Brazilian men are stunning) or the number of them but also their smiles and friendliness. I know it’s a business and they’re good at their jobs but I felt these guys were especially good at the “customer relations” side. They wanted you back; they wanted to build a relationship. I came back every day for four days and they were there hugging me. And part of that of course is that I’m a generous tipper. This is a very tough life and I can’t help it. I’m sure the news travelled (every day their price went up). The last day I only had time for three. They were all fabulous. They were beautiful and beautifully endowed. They performed with real passion, energy and aggression - really draining themselves. They may be good actors but they made it seem like the real thing to me. It was fun.
São Paulo: Chili Pepper
This was on the Sunday just after the Pride Parade. I probably got there too early although it was quite busy. Probably one of the nicest and largest saunas I’ve ever been in (maybe Hollywood Spa in LA or Thermos in Amsterdam). The layout sucks. All the rooms are at the back with next to zero traffic. Almost everyone (a predominantly Millennial and younger crowd) were concentrated in the 2nd floor dark area humping like rabbits. I scored two reasonable hits. In the end I’m not sure it’s a place for me.
Rio: Club 117
I went on a Tuesday, too early because I had a later appointment. Rooms were free. I really didn’t see enough to pass judgement. The sex I had was very good. Physically, technically excellent. It was however a bit robotic. There was a sense of trying to always encourage the extra fee, to maximize the revenue now without any interest that we might meet again. This is what I call the “tourist hustle” and It’s what Rio is all about. There’s little “client relationship” and it’s all about making as much now as possible. Maybe I’m being too harsh. I’ll see next time. 
RM & Garotocomlocal
There’s little of what’s available in Brazil on RM. A few of the upscale creators with northern links (Timtales) Good luck in trying to get a response from them. For most providers I think the subscription fees would be a killer. Grorocomlocal.com.br has 1028 providers listed for São Paulo and 458 for Rio de Janeiro. There is some form of certification and subscription but I’m not sure how much or how good it is. I don’t trust it that much - it’s a step up from BackPages but maybe not that much. I when to Brazil with the intent of hiring just like RM since I had no experience of places like Lagoa. I had a Brasilian number and communicated in Portuguese through WhatsApp. I put out requests to twelve providers. Seven never responded. Two asked for pictures (I sent my RM link). They ghosted me. I hired the remaining 3 with one ripping me off. In the end Lagoa is better and safer.
São Paulo vs Rio
- Caveat: I don’t go out walking at night so judge accordingly
So … I like big cities. I live in Canada’s mini-manhattan (haha). And SP is Manhattan writ large. I stuck to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista and a little bit of Jardim. All very walkable - provided you don’t mind hills. That took me by surprise. I knew the areas quite well from studying the maps except I didn’t understand there were so many damn hills! It’s like San Francisco. In fact there’s a real feel of that in Jardim. Other parts feel like LA. There’s a funkiness about the restaurants and bars in Consolação (the gayborhood) that isn’t either. The people are friendly but don’t expect a lot of English. Yes there are probably a lot of tourists there but it’s so damn big it doesn’t influence the city at all. Security is everywhere. It must be the biggest industry in Brasil. Even the smallest retailer ha a security guard. Military Police cars are cruising along Paulista every two minutes. Not so much beyond, however.
Rio is tourists. Copacabana is wall to wall hotels on one side and tourists stalls on the other. As a result English is more common although not really anymore common among the gorotos. Ipanema is much more residential with only  a few hotels. The condos are immaculately kept and all hermetically sealed behind secure walls and cameras. Being there, close to boteco Belmonte, would be ideal. I left feeling like I should have stayed longer and seen more. I still feel that way but I feel like it’s likely to be one and done. I don’t see it as a regular destination. I’m intrigued by Salvador. As my old friend Nelson Freire used to say “o tempo dirá” - time will tell.

Things To Look Out For
* Be careful as a pedestrian in SP and Rio. The crossings aren’t well indicated and where they are just because you have a green light doesn’t mean the cars will give you right of way. Stay alert!
* ATMs appeared to be more aggressively scalping you than I remember in Europe. Their exchange rate is ridiculously low and they tack on a hefty fee if you refuse and use your bank’s. Try and take cash with you. (I did but I got greedy and needed more. In some situations, however, greed was good).
* I didn’t get to explore much in Rio but I never came across an ATM or a bank (security?). Thankfully there was an ATM in my hotel. In SP (of course I was staying on Paulista) they were everywhere.
* Generally food is not spectacular. It’s like one big Denny’s. It’s serviceable. There are plenty of Michelin starred restaurants to try but I’m not good at eating alone in a restaurant and without the language …
* Carry a power bank! The last thing you want is to be stuck with a phone running out of charge. It’s your life line (Uber is your friend).
* They were starting to install contactless bank payment at the metro Consolação. Soon all major cities will have this so no need for specific metro passes.
Things I Would Change
* Spend more time in Rio. The place is magical and despite the limitations (see above) there’s a lot of good sex to be had. You can be prudent without being paranoid.
* Never try to change airports in SP in one day. Leave yourself room if you have to do it. It’s too nerve racking.
* Learn at least rudimentary Portuguese. I had tried but .. Google Translate only takes you so far. It’s tough to use when you get a WhatsApp from one provider while getting fucked by another.
 

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Nothing current. I hired him about five years ago. He was very sweet, knew what he was doing and gave me a full hour's work over (pretty unusual actually). The pictures are very accurate to that time. I think he dropped out of the porn business around then. He takes himself on and off the market periodically.

- This is long so I’ve added headings to let you skip the parts that are boring.
Aknowledgments
I hope this is helpful for someone contemplating their first trip to Brazil. This is my way of giving back to the many people on here who helped me with their generous advice in the various postings. Thanks.
Please forgive the ramblings and injudicious assumptions of a neophyte and be kind in your comments.
Context
After 41 years I’m a widower trying to distract myself from the realities of living alone. I’m also a bit of a sex fiend so … what better distraction. I’m still in good shape for my age. About the same weight as when I was 25. Yes this was a trip to see the largest Pride Parade in the world but it was really a sex vacation - and I had a lot of it - in just five days!
The Trip
This was fast. I have two kids (cats) that I can’t leave for more than a week, so that limits my vacation. I like it short and intense anyway. 10h direct Toronto to SP overnight. Four days in SP. Morning flight to Rio. 24 hrs in Rio. Afternoon flight back to SP, change airports and overnight back to Toronto.
The Pride Parade
Yes it was spectacular. Worth seeing once. I’m glad I chose to stay where I did. Probably the only hotel with rooms overlooking Paulista. I could see the crowd without having to be in it. The room was overpriced but as a first timer it was safe, gringo friendly and couldn’t be better located. Next time there are really nice upscale (but cheap) AirBNBs in Consolação.
Safety
This issue has been done to death so I just add my brief experience. I have some tolerance for sketchy neighbourhoods but I’m fairly prudent (Toronto: the gay neighbourhood can be rough at night. Our homeless are often severely drug damaged and wild. LA: my introduction to the city in 1989 was driving in from LAX and meeting a fully armed take down in front of the old Spagos’ in West Hollywood. I was maintaining  a fibreoptic-switch at USC during the Rodney King riots. Amsterdam: in the 90’s I’d regularly cross Vondel park in the early hours). SP: I kept to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista, and a little Jardim. Mostly during the day although I often walked back from Lagoa in the evening. I didn’t have any safety concerns at all. Once (because I got my directions wrong) I ended up looking for an address in Republica in a very sketchy neighbourhood. NOT advised. I was in a more upscale part of Republica later (Aurora) but … if you must Uber in and out. Chili Pepper - just Uber in and out (hide your phone - it’s not difficult - I’d never go anywhere without it).
Rio: I think in planning I swapped hotels four times looking for a place for just one night - mostly over safety concerns. In the end I was right next to Copacabana Palace ( a place I would never stay at). The place I stayed was already to gringo overlord infested for my liking but as a first visit… I Ubered to Club 117 on the Tuesday night and on the Wednesday morning I walked the Copacabana and Ipanema beaches walking back one street in. At that time in the morning, if prudent, it appeared reasonably safe. There’s a lot more homeless here than in SP. Ipanema is quiet - very residential. Copacabana is all hotels, tourists and tourist hustle.
São Paulo: Espaço Lagoa
Wow! Kid in a candy store! And I was popping them like candies (or they were popping me). The numbers, the size, the girth - just amazing. The thing was, it wasn’t just their physical attributes, their beauty (omg Brazilian men are stunning) or the number of them but also their smiles and friendliness. I know it’s a business and they’re good at their jobs but I felt these guys were especially good at the “customer relations” side. They wanted you back; they wanted to build a relationship. I came back every day for four days and they were there hugging me. And part of that of course is that I’m a generous tipper. This is a very tough life and I can’t help it. I’m sure the news travelled (every day their price went up). The last day I only had time for three. They were all fabulous. They were beautiful and beautifully endowed. They performed with real passion, energy and aggression - really draining themselves. They may be good actors but they made it seem like the real thing to me. It was fun.
São Paulo: Chili Pepper
This was on the Sunday just after the Pride Parade. I probably got there too early although it was quite busy. Probably one of the nicest and largest saunas I’ve ever been in (maybe Hollywood Spa in LA or Thermos in Amsterdam). The layout sucks. All the rooms are at the back with next to zero traffic. Almost everyone (a predominantly Millennial and younger crowd) were concentrated in the 2nd floor dark area humping like rabbits. I scored two reasonable hits. In the end I’m not sure it’s a place for me.
Rio: Club 117
I went on a Tuesday, too early because I had a later appointment. Rooms were free. I really didn’t see enough to pass judgement. The sex I had was very good. Physically, technically excellent. It was however a bit robotic. There was a sense of trying to always encourage the extra fee, to maximize the revenue now without any interest that we might meet again. This is what I call the “tourist hustle” and It’s what Rio is all about. There’s little “client relationship” and it’s all about making as much now as possible. Maybe I’m being too harsh. I’ll see next time. 
RM & Garotocomlocal
There’s little of what’s available in Brazil on RM. A few of the upscale creators with northern links (Timtales) Good luck in trying to get a response from them. For most providers I think the subscription fees would be a killer. Grorocomlocal.com.br has 1028 providers listed for São Paulo and 458 for Rio de Janeiro. There is some form of certification and subscription but I’m not sure how much or how good it is. I don’t trust it that much - it’s a step up from BackPages but maybe not that much. I when to Brazil with the intent of hiring just like RM since I had no experience of places like Lagoa. I had a Brasilian number and communicated in Portuguese through WhatsApp. I put out requests to twelve providers. Seven never responded. Two asked for pictures (I sent my RM link). They ghosted me. I hired the remaining 3 with one ripping me off. In the end Lagoa is better and safer.
São Paulo vs Rio
- Caveat: I don’t go out walking at night so judge accordingly
So … I like big cities. I live in Canada’s mini-manhattan (haha). And SP is Manhattan writ large. I stuck to Paulista, Consolação, Bella Vista and a little bit of Jardim. All very walkable - provided you don’t mind hills. That took me by surprise. I knew the areas quite well from studying the maps except I didn’t understand there were so many damn hills! It’s like San Francisco. In fact there’s a real feel of that in Jardim. Other parts feel like LA. There’s a funkiness about the restaurants and bars in Consolação (the gayborhood) that isn’t either. The people are friendly but don’t expect a lot of English. Yes there are probably a lot of tourists there but it’s so damn big it doesn’t influence the city at all. Security is everywhere. It must be the biggest industry in Brasil. Even the smallest retailer ha a security guard. Military Police cars are cruising along Paulista every two minutes. Not so much beyond, however.
Rio is tourists. Copacabana is wall to wall hotels on one side and tourists stalls on the other. As a result English is more common although not really anymore common among the gorotos. Ipanema is much more residential with only  a few hotels. The condos are immaculately kept and all hermetically sealed behind secure walls and cameras. Being there, close to boteco Belmonte, would be ideal. I left feeling like I should have stayed longer and seen more. I still feel that way but I feel like it’s likely to be one and done. I don’t see it as a regular destination. I’m intrigued by Salvador. As my old friend Nelson Freire used to say “o tempo dirá” - time will tell.

Things To Look Out For
* Be careful as a pedestrian in SP and Rio. The crossings aren’t well indicated and where they are just because you have a green light doesn’t mean the cars will give you right of way. Stay alert!
* ATMs appeared to be more aggressively scalping you than I remember in Europe. Their exchange rate is ridiculously low and they tack on a hefty fee if you refuse and use your bank’s. Try and take cash with you. (I did but I got greedy and needed more. In some situations, however, greed was good).
* I didn’t get to explore much in Rio but I never came across an ATM or a bank (security?). Thankfully there was an ATM in my hotel. In SP (of course I was staying on Paulista) they were everywhere.
* Generally food is not spectacular. It’s like one big Denny’s. It’s serviceable. There are plenty of Michelin starred restaurants to try but I’m not good at eating alone in a restaurant and without the language …
* Carry a power bank! The last thing you want is to be stuck with a phone running out of charge. It’s your life line (Uber is your friend).
* They were starting to install contactless bank payment at the metro Consolação. Soon all major cities will have this so no need for specific metro passes.
Things I Would Change
* Spend more time in Rio. The place is magical and despite the limitations (see above) there’s a lot of good sex to be had. You can be prudent without being paranoid.
* Never try to change airports in SP in one day. Leave yourself room if you have to do it. It’s too nerve racking.
* Learn at least rudimentary Portuguese. I had tried but .. Google Translate only takes you so far. It’s tough to use when you get a WhatsApp from one provider while getting fucked by another.
 

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