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It's fun to fantasize about, but when you really get into the reality of it I think it's something that 99% of people who initially consider it will decide against. I'm an American for life. But France is the one country I still sometimes fantasize about. It's surprisingly accessible as an American expat due to the favorable US-France tax treaty.

I understand this perspective but for me and others it's a matter of discretion rather than cost. I'm wary of extending my digital footprint to third party platforms, whether through Uber or deposits, in dealings with providers. I'm happy to pay transportation costs in cash.

Wow, this is my first time realizing the big 250 is only a couple years away! Also, me doing the math to see if I'll be around for the tricentennial:

I feel like it would be difficult to discreetly hire when living in such a building. Neighbors and concierge can probably figure out the score from your first young, handsome guest that also happens to stay about 1 hour. That's probably not a top of mind suspicion in a non gay building, at least initially. What would the lesbians down the hall think of such open impropriety in their building? The tenant board?

True, looks like it includes weekly housekeeping and all utilities. The gym looks disappointing, but then again I've never seen an apartment gym that wasn't. I would have hoped the rare gay apartment building would be the exception to that rule 😛

I'll take your word for it. Just seems like a big markup for a more personalized social experience, which at a certain age and with a certain income might actually be worth it in itself.

I noticed that PS now has an apartment community (not assisted living) for 55+ LGBT people. Over 6k/month for a one bedroom 😮

I wonder why there seems to be a lack of bodybuilder providers in SF/bay area. Maybe they can do better and live more cheaply by heading down to LA?

That's a good point nycman about how part of the problem is actual cognitive changes in the brain that often occur with age. Combine that with loneliness and people who were previously successful, smart, and shrewd in their careers can suddenly be susceptible to what are obvious scams to others. You better really trust that "financial minder" though not to be tempted to take advantage themselves.

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I wouldn't agree with that perspective, and I think that mindset will make you susceptible to this happening again in the future. I would rephrase as: A lot of providers don't want to be honest because they are businessmen. Making you feel the way you feel is what they do to earn income, and is a skill. You can't assume much about someone's personality or intentions based on their occupation only. You can't assume someone is "caring" because of what they do. All you can assume is they do what they do for money. What's the difference between a legitimately caring person and a charming sociopath? Most people probably can't tell the difference at first, if at all, and especially not when money is changing hands. That's why it's important to be clear with yourself what your boundaries are and stick to them. I don't deny that there are legitimately caring providers out there; there certainly are. But if you think you have a special ability to fully know their motivations and intentions, you are deluding yourself and setting yourself up for that to happen again.

Question for those who say they share stats: Which stats do you share specifically? Anything beyond age/height/weight?

Any opinions on the quality of providers between the two cities, if any difference? Similar number of listings on RM.

That's interesting and definitely a real phenomenon. It's occurred to me that living in my current small urban bubble probably wouldn't be unlike living in Hawaii, given that I can easily go months without venturing very far. But the option of driving out exists even though I rarely choose that option.

PS proximity to LA, OC, and SD is definitely a plus. Though I wonder how often PS residents actually make the trip. All those places are a short and easy flight from Vegas too.

Seems like a good move to me. Keeps a supply of some AirBnBs available, but keeps prices lower and promotes better community for residential buyers. The non-transferability is a good idea though it sucks for those who bought higher hoping to create a business.

That's a good point. I've heard a little bit about that. Buying a house only to have a land lease doesn't sound ideal. Maybe unless a home can be found cheaply enough that it's worth the trade-offs, especially with a lease ending in the very distant future. If I bought there I would probably only look at options where I fully own the land.

I wasn't aware there was a Palm Springs FL. Looks like a pretty small town. I'd rather live in Miami.

I agree about the ubiquitous gambling being a turn off. I don't gamble either. It gives off a sense of sadness/desperation in a way, seeing it everywhere. And yes the views are my favorite part of PS. The juxtaposition of palm trees and mountains, sometimes snow capped, is really striking. I guess it would be easier to make gay friends in PS? That's important especially when moving.

If you had to choose between living in these two locations, which would you pick? Would your answer change if finances weren't a consideration? I enjoy both of these spots and suspect I'll move to one or the other at some point in the distant future. Curious what others think. Personally I think I would lean towards Vegas only because it doesn't empty out in the summer.

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That's surprising to me. I assume they were men? Do you know any of the details about how that came to happen? I would guess perhaps initiated by complaints from hotels on the Strip?

One thing that makes me especially hesitant is that solicitation itself is technically illegal, regardless of what acts did or did not take place. And with the seeming expectation that things are arranged over text, that could be easy to prove. I realize there are apps and strategies to distance one's identity from texting but even then it would not be difficult to trace. I appreciate the comments -- so far, it seems no direct experiences and one alluded to possible past issue.

The common refrain on this site is don't do this if you have a lot to lose, which seems smart, but personally I'd like to get a better sense of quantified risk. Has anyone actually experienced legal issues with hiring/meeting established providers on RM? Especially in blue state large cities (SF, LA, Vegas, NYC, Chicago)? There's really no true way to stay completely anonymous. Currently I'm not hiring because other than people saying the risk is very low, I really don't have a good sense of how low. I feel safer hiring compared to random hookups but the risk of my life being nearly ruined is impossible to ignore. I'm interested in hearing about any actual real life experiences on this point -- thanks in advance.