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I'd love to hear more of your stories @haring222. That was an entertaining read.

That's really intriguing @Whippoorwill. I wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the problem for me too. I want to thank @56harrisond for introducing me to the world of lip masks. I haven't tried Laneige yet, but I tried one called Jouer which is definitely helping.

I've tried scheduling with Garik but found communication to be challenging. The first time he responded to me after 36 hours, and unfortunately the timing didn't work out. The second time I tried I got no response. I wish I knew what the issue was as I saw he was active online throughout 🫤.

I asked this question because I have a good friend who I thought was straight but has been dropping hints with me that he might be bi, while also dropping hints that he might want to play. I value my friendship with him too much just to risk it with a fwb situation. But I would consider a LTR with him and he's one of only a few people I've ever met who I could say that about. It's easier to compartmentalize those feelings with a straight guy but it opens a can of worms if he's bi. He's also hot af. So I was just curious how common a successful gay/bi ltr might be in general since I've never actually seen it.

The only examples I've seen of this in my life have actually been gay men who were married to women but who were deeply closeted (like Mormons). Having been married to a woman doesn't necessarily denote bisexuality which is kind of confusing. That may be a debate among some but I consider sexual orientation to be based solely on intrinsic attraction and not on behavior, which introduces a lot of potential confounding factors. E.g., gay-for-pay guys are not actually gay. Charlie, that's great to hear you are all a big family now!

Has anyone ever seen a successful example of this -- a long term, committed relationship between a gay man and a bi man? (even if it's an open relationship) I know it might seem like a silly question but I'm genuinely curious. I don't have any examples of this in my own life. What I hear most from gay men about this is that bi men will tend not to choose a man as a romantic partner due to social and family goals/pressures. But I also know bisexuality is a spectrum with many preferring guys over women, but even then that preference may be purely sexual and not romantic. So I'm curious if any of you have seen this play out in real life and what your experiences are. Just want to add that I love bi men and don't mean for this to be disrespectful in any way.

Has anyone noticed a fair number of Latino providers "dropping out" in the past couple months? Of course it's impossible to say whether it's just normal attrition. I was especially sad to see that a well-reviewed Mexican masseur in PS I had been planning on seeing soon had an expired Rentmasseur page, which was deleted a month later.

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Hmm, international number. Not a good sign. I'll assume this is fake.

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Just kidding. Leave it to Simon to be the consummate professional.

@SirBillybob Not to get too far into the weeds, but I don't see Mgen talked about too much. My understanding it that it would be very, very unusual for this to cause problems if activity is limited to oral sex.

I think the short, and maybe uncomfortable answer is that there are a lot of people out there who make (and have) a lot of money. Supply and demand is what it is. There are enough of those people out there that rates are what they are. I think that for many who hire, it's not much of a sacrifice financially. Time is the more limited resource for them.

"I don't work weekends" "I don't work after 7 PM" etc etc. Why not include this general info in your ad? Wouldn't that cut down on a lot of extra texts? I'm referring to guys who exclusively advertise as masseurs. Men who advertise as escorts (or both) don't seem to have as many time restrictions.

@Necks, I'm very impressed with your knowledge on this topic!

Oh, and obviously the risk of HIV with oral is very low. Don't suck a dick right after brushing your teeth or flossing or if you otherwise have cuts or wounds in your mouth.

It's kind of hard to find relevant stats on risks of giving vs receiving oral. Chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis can be eliminated from the body. Herpes and HPV can't but there is an HPV vaccine that can help protect against common strains. There are treatments for symptomatic herpes. For me, I think it just comes down to the fact that I'm comfortable with getting treatment if I find myself with a symptomatic infection in addition to quarterly testing. Abstinence, including abstinence from kissing, is the only way to totally prevent herpes. Most herpes isn't symptomatic. If you're of a certain age, you likely already have Herpes-1 (the one that most commonly causes cold sores) even if you've never had symptoms. I think the best you can do is educate yourself about the risks and treatments for common STIs and decide if you're comfortable or not. It's a decision to make with your SO too. What is your fear exactly? Is there a specific STD you really want to avoid?

On the other hand, I know at least a few escorts who advertise as bisexual but are actually 100% gay. So my advice to the OP would be: take that label with a grain of salt.

How common would you all say it is to never receive a response? Just happened to me from someone who is well reviewed and has a great reputation. My initial message is always respectful and straight to the point. I get it if the proposed times don't work, but no response kind of shuts the door on future appointments too.

Anyone care to share their lip care regimen? I usually have chapped lips despite extensive efforts to keep them soft and moisturized. I can get by using a sugar-based exfoliator along with a shea-butter based balm, which will keep them in ok shape for a couple hours. But I'm looking for a better solution. Any tips or product recs?

Nipple piercings. I don't like any piercings at all, but something about nipple piercings in particular really drains any desire I have for a guy.

I've wondered why Rentmen doesn't show listings for Uruguay. Probably because it's not a major tourist destination and there are other Spanish-language resources but idk.

Charlie, might I be seeing you on TV spectating at the Tennis Garden? For me... social connections, exercise, good books, good music, and some fun money.

Not to get too far off topic but fwiw... the door-to-door solar panel industry can be pretty...(wait for it)... dark. A lot of these young guys are recruited in gyms and are lured in with promises of crazy income from commissions. And then they might be put on the hook for travel expenses if they can't meet goals. Wired had an article on it recently.

Simon, do you charge for the work of arranging/coordinating a group (I assume so) and if so, what's a reasonable fee for that?