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Sounds like to me he owes you money. It would be nice if it came up to see how he handles it.

Technically it IS fine dining and shopping. 😉

Wow. A speed chess reference! Haven't played since high school. I do recall loving the partnership version more, which would make it another apt comparison.

Honestly, even if they were my dream date, paying that much would ruin it for me. My expectations would be raised, I'd think they were too arrogant to charge that much, and I'd be too critical of everything that wasn't ideal. YMMV, but I could never enjoy an experience if I felt I was overpaying from the start.

I don't know if you described the situation the same way before, but as presented here, I'm with you 100%

"I'm sure you're worth it, but that's out of my price range." is what I've said and nobody seemed offended.

I find that when I have a booking I'm looking forward to in the future, I have little inclination to book another, even it the booking is a month or more away. Especially if the booking is with my favorite provider. Maybe it's my monogamous nature. Maybe it's that anything less than that expectation would be a disappointment.

I didn't even realize you COULD reach out to other clients. It would just never occur to me to do so. I think on this forum, we are de facto volunteering information about providers. Just having a profile isn't an invitation to engage. While I wouldn't be offended by a polite query, I wouldn't be inclined to reply. This forum is a different matter entirely.

I suppose if you have to in order to take an electric deposit? I was just surprised to see that my favorite provider texted me his flight confirmation (unsolicited) that included his name. I'm pleased that he trusts me. But I also worry about him (he's sweet, younger and maybe too trusting). Or is this not a big deal for you guys? No real risk with a regular? Or maybe it was just carelessness on his part. It made me happy to see, but I may be just reading too much into it.

I'd have to think that searching messages is much more common for providers. As a client, I can count my serious correspondence partners on one hand. But I agree that updated search items on rentmasseur.com would be nice, however it would tend to point out the obvious...more than massage is going on.

But if you wanted to add onions, I wouldn't assume the price stayed the same.

Be honest with both of them and see if they are into it. They should be flattered.

Maybe for you, but for many of us, we hire for the touch and intimacy. We wouldn't be hiring for weekends if we we're paying them to leave.

Nothing wrong with them, but not a value add for me. Just a few natural pics, smiling, shirtless, natural and a humble attitude in the text is all I need to see.

Im a little confused on this. A "legitimate" massage at a Hand and Stone, for example is between 80 and 130 for an hour. But I see rentmasseur often at 180+ and then adding on for extras. Am I missing something? Why would I pay extra for a potentially unlicensed massage if HE+ isn't part of the deal? The math isn't matching for me. Or is it assumed that the therapist will be nude or something, but I've seen people say they charge extra for that as well. Is a puzzlement.

If a provider's pics show a beard, I just move on. I wouldn't ask a bearded person to shave. My concern is when their pictures are one way and they present another. Or if they have pictures bearded and shaved, so I'd want to know what I'm getting. And just pass if they are bearded at present.

Easy pass. I pay cash. If he wants to send part of the massage in advance, I'll prepay for part.

I hope they'll be different. My first session with someone was really my first male interaction as an adult. Next time I will know more of what I want, and not be as cautious about asking for it. I expect it to be a much busier and fulfilling experience. Hopefully next month.

I agree with most of the "move on" crowd, but I think a simple text saying, "I'm truly sorry, and understand if you don't want to see me, but I'd love the chance to make it up to you." Then let it go. You've said your piece, and left the ball in his court if he wants to try again. Personally, I don't want the stress when hiring, but apparently this guy is worth it to you.

For me, it all depends on if they look like their pictures. Face it, this is a very visual business. Between photoshop, age-shaving, size-exaggerating, and apparently height exaggeration, there are many ways providers deceive us in order to get the booking. If they end up not looking like their pictures, I don't think you owe them a dime. Pay for their time? Seriously? They should pay for wasting yours. What if after the session you gave them money that didn't look like the currency you promised? Fair is fair. If someone's look changes dramatically (many tattoos, significant weight gain or loss, shaved their head) it is their responsibility to update their pictures. An Italian restaurant won't change to a Mexican menu without changing the signage and website. Providers want us to respect that this is a business for them, so we should respect that and expect that they behave like one as well. The difference is that in this business, the client has no recourse once he hands over the money.

So far I've had 4 encounters. 3 Rentmen; 1 Rentmasseur. The first 2 rentmen disappointed. The 3rd I'd love to hire again, but we aren't geographically close. The masseur I plan on going back to, but thus far I haven't had a second visit with anyone.

Could be a few things: 1) They could be an idiot 2) they are trying to find out if there are some things not included in that published rate that might be on the table 3) Most providers sadly put "ask" which shouldn't even be an option, so they don't bother clicking on rates any more. If everyone put a rate there, this probably wouldn't happen.

I'm not a fan of tattoos, but as long as they aren't on the face or covering half the neck, it's not a deal breaker.

As someone who likes the clean-cut, clean shaven look, I'm disappointed to see that the vast majority of providers are sporting beards. Is this just a new trend, or my imagination? Even when there is a profile of a clean cut guy. Half of his pictures show a beard, so you don't know what you'll get. Its certainly not my place to ask someone to shave, but is it tactful to ask, before booking, if they are still clean-shaven or will be for my appointment?

Great point. Reputable businesses LOVE when their customers talk to other people about their service. Scammers hate it. That's about all you need to know.