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Thanks. I didn't know. I wonder how long that app has been around. Do you know?

I didn't know I was in the minority in this. I do watch fat, out-of-shape men as much as others. If I like the guy and/or what they do, I watch it. Can't care less about they looking like or unlike me. Maybe the way I approach my sexuality is not all about physical attributes. And I refuse to believe that I am alone in this.

It gets me curious too. I wonder what they could be saying about me, but at the same time, I have been a good and respectful client. It's more curiosity than worry. Maybe one of them posted my picture if they have it. I do endorse having a platform where providers can share reliable information about clients to protect themselves, especially in this line of work.

Great post, Vin_Marco. I think it depends on how each one of the parties approaches or is approached. One of my favorite providers did reach out to me because I saw his profile. The way he reached out to me was enticing, in fact, was that extra little push I needed to finally see him. I'm glad because we both seem to enjoy our respective sides of the deal. However, just like in nother settings, like in a live social situation, there are some people who don't know how to approach or don't know how to be polite when getting unwanted approaches. It really is a two-way street. I have been approached by providers in the worst way possible, aggressively, with the "today's your lucky day" attitude. As you said, there isn't a right or wrong answer, but there can be the wrong ways of approaching or responding to being approached. My policy is not to be nasty when saying no, and if the person or provider doesn't get it, I escalate the aggressiveness until they get it (some people don't get the "no" right away or at all).

Thanks. Will try it.

Yes, I definitely remember seeing him, but I couldn't find it now. I did see him in that website at some point.

I definitely agree that it should be talked about, that is, if that is important in the overall experience (or it is in fact, the overall experience). However, I disagree about it being a generational thing. I'm from the older generation and have no problem with PDAs, never had, and so are many people in my generation. I have a collection of pictures of me kissing a man in front of the christian protesters at gay pride events, and at their Planned Parenthood protests. However, the caution I do have is when I am in an environment that can be or become threatening, physically or psychologically, when it's more than just the social aspect that needs to be considered. And of course, it goes without saying that there are circumstances in which PDAs might not be appropriate for anyone.

I didn't find him now, but I swear I saw a profile of him in rentmen a while back. Maybe he changed his services.

6'-11" and 135 lbs?

Good to know. I've been there several times and it was only one time when I witnessed a person bringing an outside visitor. I can't tell if that person was a local or another visitor, but it's great to know that there are rules. Never done it myself. Thanks.

I don't know the specific policies of the hotels, but I have seen people bringing men to Casa Cupula, Blue Chairs and the Mercurio. Recently, PV has opened gazzillions of massage places, the Turkish massage place and one named Aqua Spa seem to concentrate in therapeutic massages (with an excellent massage, great facilities and showers), but there are now many other options for erotic massages all over town. In that respect, it has become similar to Bangkok. Prostitution in Mexico is legal under federal law, though the state of Jalisco might have certain regulations in place. That means that you can schedule a massage and safely negotiate something extra.

I agree that you didn't do anything wrong. I also agree about discretion being the main rule, and to judge every situation with discretion. I, however, had a provider that apparently wanted to befriend me. He started calling me out of nowhere just to say hello, and started sending me pictures of him in places having fun. It didn't strike me as harassment or blackmail, just odd. In fact, for some reason I found it rather off-putting than threatening. I saw him one more time after, but after that session neither of us heard again from each other. Not sure what was that all about. Just odd.

Found this in Sitges (therapeutic only): English WWW.MASSAGEBYPAULSITGES.COM

Definitely. He does list massage in his profile, though. I hindsight, I think his "I don't have a massage table" might have been some sort of open question for me to inquire about his other services. Point is he offered a service that he's not giving, he was misleading and he wasted my time. To me he handled me poorly, and I wouldn't try again nor recommend to others. Plenty more who are more pleasant to work with.

What do you mean? He didn't use all the time?

The first experience sounds quite scary. Glad that it didn't deter you. I personally don't bat myself for having a bad experience. I learn from them and avoid making the same mistakes.

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I wonder what their focus groups will be like.

Plus: Didn't ignore me (kind of) Minus: Misleading. I reached out to him for a massage, as included in his profile, and at first he gave me excuses (I am still in the learning curve of all this). I asked him if that means he's unavailable. He said that he is. We talked rate and got the address. Later he canceled and asked if we could reschedule. I agreed. Then I texted to confirm, and he replied that "Unfortunately I'm not doing massages at this time". My guess is that he has higher rates for other things than massages, so he keeps people in standby if nothing better for him comes up. Poor customer service, misleading communication. Waste of time.

Conversing with some of my providers, I can see how that can make perfect sense. They have told me that they have come across some people with not the best hygiene, and also people who go directly to them from work or other places. And, let's face it, some dudes never learned how to maintain their butts clean.

My two cents: The "just go, happens all the time" attitude about the issue doesn't take into consideration a few things: many of use love the land where we grew up, have other ties with communities, loved ones, and/or have a good career. To just up and leave, especially if you have a family and an established career, is not as easy as "just go". Furthermore, conservative people are jut wrong in their discriminatory practices and actions, especially when legal protections are in place. Leaving makes them win, and they should not win because their beliefs and actions are just cruel and wrong. Chosoing to move for comfort and for better opportunities for the LGBT is very different that being forced out from a community that you have been part of due to political pressure, or for making you feel threatened. And as things progress, they are supposed to get better not worse, so there should be less of having to leave, not the increase that we are seeing. "Happens all the time" just enables and excuses the hate.

He shows his "platform" in his intro picture. Looks like some immature kid having fun, to me.

And they are enforced... how? If they don't follow them, then... what exactly happens?

Good to know.

I tried this spa twice, once in July, and another yesterday. I had both a massage and a pedicure. The first time I just went for the pedicure, but let him talk me into a 60-minute massage. I got a nice guy, young and in shape, good body. He gave me an excellent massage and didn't upsale anything. I got a little extra. Not too much extra, but enough for me to feel good (especially since I wasn't expecting any extra). The massage was very good. The second time I had another skinny young Asian gentleman, who spoke little English and he also gave a great massage, asked the right questions about areas to concentrate on, conditions he needs to be aware of, so it was a very professional massage too. I also got a little extra. The overall experience was very professional, good massage, good pedicure, excellent prices, good, well-kept facilities and good equipment (both the facilities and the guys). I personally like the place very much, and I can tell that "Batman" manages that place very well. I will go again, although I just found out in this forum that I can ask for specific masseurs. The place is fairly new, so that might be why it doesn't have many reviews, or it might have fake reviews for promotion. Not a deal-breaker to me.