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I can attest to that being possible. I tried a 4-hand massage and it didn't do it for me. I'm not against the concept, but it wasn't anything I cared for. In my case I stopped it (politely, didn't want to create an unsavory situation). I felt crowded. Yes, the filters in the websites help with at least sifting through those who are clueless by not having any kind of certification.

I don't know if this is a "technique", but I do a combination of what most people have posted. If I see that the masseur also has a profile in rentmen, chances are that he will either offer more extras than massage, or might offer to up-sell the massage for extras. If the profile's rates say "Ask", I look at the reviews, and the rates can give me a clue of what people are really paying for. The rest is just my own intuition, and the masseur's credentials. RM has a filter for certified masseurs only, and that should screen out those that are less qualified for quality massages. I once reached out to a masseur that in the text was very clear and descriptive of what he offered and his rates: $XY for massage only, $XYZ for massage, some play and HE, and $XYZABCDEFG for everything in the book. That takes away the "thrill", but sometimes is useful to have a clue of what to expect. I think communication and directly asking can help too. I imagine they should not be offended for asking about expectations. I'm sure that they know what kind of site they are in.

Sorry, but I still fail to see anything remotely related to an anus there. The bigger question (at least to me) is, why does that matter anyway? If it looks like an anus, or if it was intentionally created to look like an anus, what then?

Good God! We all need therapy after this discussion.

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Just my thoughts, not law: I think that for as long as we are men, especially the gay kind, we are always going to like the thrill of the unknown. I also think that in a massage setting, the masseur has the upper hand and can decide to give hints, as well as how far he's willing to go. Here in Spain where I'm vacationing, I scheduled a massage at the hotel where I'm staying, not a gay hotel, just a mainstream hotel that has a spa and offer massages and spa-related services. When I scheduled mine, I was asked "Chica or chico?" (girl or boy?) for the masseur. I said "Chico" because, why not? Not expecting anything other than a nice relaxing massage, as the facilities are for all kinds of hotel guests, I went to my appointment not expecting and not even having anything in my mind, other than a relaxing time at the pool, the sauna and the thermal baths. The massage time came in, they gave me this paper/disposable g-string to wear, so I wasn't "naked". A minute or two into the massage, the nice gentleman masseur pulled the paper/disposable g-string down. Half an hour into it, the masseur and I almost break the massage table having sex. The fact that it was unexpected did add to the excitement and thrill of the whole thing. However, I am 100% sure that none of that happened if it wasn't for the initiative that the masseur took. Personally I don't give hints if I don't get one first, so to me, it's up to him.

I'm right with you. I have seen plenty of anuses in my life, and none that look anything like that, nor do I know (and hope never to) of an anus of that size. That's just typical art pursuing fame by creating controversy.

I've always stayed away from the apps and hookup sites, precisely because of that type of scams, in addition to the amount of guessing that one has to do when connecting to others based on text typed and two-dimensional pictures. So it seems like yes, there are way too many risks for me to feel comfortable, about my personal information, my investments, my reputation (do I still have a good one? I wonder) and other things. It's not technology fear or illiteracy; I think it's age. I have a different overall mindset about it.

Unfortunately things have changed with the newer generation. I do remember there been groups for people exactly like you, gay men in heterosexual marriages. They were support groups, but they also have social venues. And of course, they were not hookups nor sexual in nature. I found the psychotherapy network web page that might have information on it: The Gay Man in the Straight Marriage WWW.PSYCHOTHERAPYNETWORKER.ORG Rob rushed into his first session with me, gym bag on one shoulder, briefcase on the other, 10 minutes late and out of breath. He set his bags down, gently put his... And the National Library of Medicine has a study: Gay men from heterosexual marriages: attitudes, behaviors, childhood experiences, and reasons for marriage - PubMed PUBMED.NCBI.NLM.NIH.GOV In the current study, the attitudes, behaviors and experiences of 26 gay or bisexual men who were married to a woman are examined. Data are provided on... Not specifically for men who are in your situation, but Philadelphia has the LGBT Elder Initiative, which can provide resources for your particular situation: Seniors — William Way Community Center WWW.WAYGAY.ORG I think your approach to ignoring negativity is great, but it might depend on what you consider negative. Sometimes there are things that are not attacks, just things we don't like hearing. Best wishes.

Personally, I see no reason to not be nice when using RM for messaging, at least that's my rule. I'm not sure what you mean by "it's one service connecting you to providers". Yes, the very existence of RM is to connect clients with providers and manage all the logistics around it.

The entrance fee is €21. You get a locker, and the locker number is what they use to charge for things like a VIP room or drinks at the bar. The pay-for-play with the guys is what's negotiable. They propose a rate and you take it from there. Most approached me offering me a massage, not sure if that's the common practice. It's not a set rate. They make a proposition and you decide/negotiate. One asked me for €150, another asked for €70. I don't think there's any criteria, other than what you might look to them.

I went twice in the past two weeks. I'm currently vacationing in Barcelona. The first time I went was on a Tuesday afternoon and it was pouring rain. The place was not too full of people, and there were mostly young guys, but none of them I could characterize as muscular. Also, I didn't see a single one from Spain, if that matters to you. I hooked up with a young guy from the Dominican republic and got the worst BJ I've ever had in my life. He did seem very inexperienced at everything, from the moment he approached me, immediately offered me a considerable discount from the rather overpriced rate, and he was just awkward. Left after that because the place didn't feel right for me. The second time was in the early evening, and there were many guys to choose from, some muscular, but most twink types, with one or two with a few strings of grey. That time I had a "massage" with a nice young Colombian man who actually knew well how to give massages. The extras were just ok. Didn't up-sell for more. Then after that I got a nice young Cuban man. I don't know what to say about this, maybe it was what I was projecting or who knows what, but the session felt more like a therapy session. We literally stopped to start talking about anxiety medication, his past addiction treatment and my OCD. If that was a trick for him to get the money without any action, who knows. However, I did take some time to talk to him at the bar before going into a room. He told me that the vast majority of his clients there don't talk much and go "to the point". Who knows. There were many other guys who look really good, and they were diverse in type, role and physical appearance. The facilities are good, rates are up for negotiation, guys are friendly and not pushy (they get the "no" right away if you say no). However, it seems like the muscle guys expect to be approached. Not a one went to anyone asking for anything, at least when I was there. The address of the place is easy to find and feels like a safe neighborhood, and the process of entering and paying is easy. All-in-all is a good place. I'm still evaluating if it is for me. This is my first time trying a place like this in my entire life, so I personally wouldn't count my experience as something that is what usually one can get in a place like that. Just my two cents.

I saw two reviews in Rentmen for him, although one of them is just a short sentence stating that he saw him a year prior. I don't see a lot of clarity in his profile.

When I got COVID, I got it at the hospital because I started treating a stomach bacteria, so I was taking hard antibiotics and going through COVID too. Not exactly the most fun two weeks of my life. I slept a lot, but probably because of co-infection or the treatment I was going through.

Middle aged closeted guys have been hitting on me since I was 14. I imagine you mean a rather large number of accounts that are raising suspicion. I know little about Grindr, but all of the online media have features that include some kind of AI algorithm that determines what to recommend to you. Happens with most-to-all social media. I personally call it artificial dumbness precisely because I get a number of things that I find rather baffling, but they come from some algorithm. I'm proposing an alternative possibility.

I know there's this one that I have been visiting for some time now. He might think that I am one of those creeps. The thing is that I have been awaiting for the right time to try what he's into for the first time. And yes, I lust after his profile. However, I do want and will reach out to him. Hopefully he researches me in Mr. Number or something.

Well, maybe for an extra $20 you can name him whatever you want. In all seriousness, I think with the amount of names already taken, they have to get really creative to stand out. Also, not to mention that some things don't translate in other places/cultures. I didn't know anything about the meaning of drippy, for example.

I've been to that spa. Every time it's been a different masseur with different skills and level of willingness/attachment for the extra HE. The place also offer other services, so I actually got a pedicure there. Batman himself gave me the pedicure. There is another post on it:

I have no words to console you. Sorry you go through that. I know that many of us, men, are full of it. Many of us are also full of doubt and insecurities, and you are in the receiving end of all that. If I remember correctly, there was a thread about rating clients, or maybe sharing client information. Do you think that such thing can be beneficial to you (that is, if/how it exists)? Finding a way of knowing if a prospective client is a time waster could save you all this grief.

I'm a client. This is just my opinion and view of that. As a client, especially if I see my provider regularly, I should know better than asking for discount, knowing well, (a) the line of work we are talking about, (b) the fact that providers (at least some, I'm sure not all) depend on the service that they provide to make a living, and (c) it's not that the escorting profession has a 401k, health insurance or benefits packages. I am sensitive to the nature of this line of work. Also, I am well aware not to bother calling any provider if I cannot afford him. One of my masseurs, however, offered me a discount for a second session after I had the first. he was actually my very first provider. I didn't see that as a regular, ongoing thing. I saw it for what it was, a one-time offer to build loyalty, just like other businesses do. Also that was not an escort, it was a masseur. I think you are right about it being a slippery slope. Who's to say that he will not continue demanding more discounts, free sessions, or other "perks"? And how do we know that if you do that with just him, that he will keep it quiet? Personally I find that insensitive and somewhat distasteful. This is your business and as a business man, your rates should be respected. We take them, negotiate beforehand, or leave them. But asking for some kind of loyalty discount, doesn't sound right to me.

The problem is: who? Who will they pursue, the client or the provider? Where? Whatever happens falls under what jurisdiction? How? What resources are necessary to entrap whoever in enough amounts to consider it a raid? Law enforcement can and have created fake profiles, but normally it is to entrap people that they are actually identified and pursuing, not to blindly create a mass arrest situation. Yes, you are correct, it's not impossible. However, I do sustain that is improbable, unless there are serious reasons for it, a serial killer, involving minors, proof that some are forced/trafficked into providing services. Also, keep in mind that RM is one of many sites, and it's not even based in the USA. The United Nations has an entire division of cyber attacks and the use of technology for harmful purposes. It's called the United Nations Interregional Crime and Justice Research Institute, which monitors technology for the purposes of crimes, and that include all kinds of illegal activities. I think they are quite busy with terrorism and other more harmful events, other than some John hiring a male escort via RM.

That's actually quite common in the hetero BDSM world. That's a bulk of what many dominatrices do. I know of men who pay the dominatrix to be bossed around while he cleans her apartment, with both mental and physical punishment along the entire event. I'm sure there's the all-men equivalent to that. I think there might be service providers willing to accommodate, the discussion should be about how far they can go with it. I mean, you don't want them to expect you to build a septic tank for them, I imagine.

LOL! I understand your point. And hard to say about where I live, living in what is supposed to be a large city, but seems like it runs like a small town. So in terms of opportunities and availability of services, I guess it fluctuates. Yes, regardless of the number of available choices, what catches my attention is a combination of the pictures and the information in the profile, not just what I see in the pictures. The one that I hired that had no face had information in the profile and reviews that were good, plenty of detailed information that made me feel compelled to give him a try. I did, and it wasn't great, but not because he didn't show his face in the profile. He was very pleasant, personable and friendly. We just didn't have the right chemistry. Also, Personally I do not correlate lack of face pictures with lack of commitment to the trade. First, just like me and my current job, I'm in it for the money and benefits, can't care less about anything else, so I see nothing wrong with detachment from the profession and thinking of it as little as possible. Second, there are many reasons why providers will not include their face. The rest of the profile and reviews, along with the type and quality of pictures is what tells the whole story. I don't think that there's one right or wrong way of approaching this. We just do what we feel comfortable doing.

I'm not inside other people's minds, so this is just a guess and probably based on my own criteria. I'd feel better if I know that I am desirable enough to make a person come. It's part of the satisfaction. That said, to me is not required, as I also understand that providers need to save energy for other clients. However, the act of the provider coming doesn't necessarily satisfy me.

Would you ask for a picture? Maybe you'll get an idea of what or how much he's talking about.