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Some of my favorites from years ago who are no longer in the biz....
Adrian Hart (Orlando based)
Andre (Raleigh based)
Braeden Casey (SF based)
Met each of them several times and had amazing times.  Few have measured up since.

For those of us who have been around long enough to remember the origins of this site I would love to see this forum renamed Remembering Daddy and Hooboy.  It gives some acknowledgement to the person who started it all and without him it would ever have existed in the first place.  Just my opinion.  Cheers to both these gentlemen who made it all possible.

For those of us who have been around long enough to remember the origins of this site I would love to see this forum renamed Remembering Daddy and Hooboy.  It gives some acknowledgement to the person who started it all and without him it would ever have existed in the first place.  Just my opinion.  Cheers to both these gentlemen who made it all possible.

I think he’s a scammer. That body isn’t 36. 

Over the years, Company of Men members have advised one another to verify escorts via FaceTime. Seems like at least one escort has been listening.

If the escort hosts, I always ask where they host so I can factor in travel time and whether or not I'm willing to travel to that area.
Escorts provide a service. If they want business, they need to be clear what that service entails.
Obviously, the service does not need to include hosting at all. It's an escorts choice as to what services they are willing to provide.

A lot of the providers I have seen are visiting my area. So I tend to meet them at their hotel and on the very rare occasion an air bnb. Since I’m coming to them I definitely need to know their location. Once we set a time, I need to factor in my travel and potential parking time to meet them on time. Usually they’ll tell me a hotel name or street. Once I park, they then give me the hotel room number or whatever pertinent info I need to meet them in their room.
I have had offers to stay at a guy’s actual residence. Some on the first meeting, but most after I get to know the guy. I have yet to do it though. Mainly because with new hires I just feel more comfortable at a hotel. The regulars who offer, I just haven’t had the chance to visit them in their area to take up the offer.

So over the weekend I went ahead and met up with Jonas. I can say that he looks as good in person as he does in his profile pictures  aside from that, I definitely would not be having a second encounter with him. I would most certainly find other ways of entertainment - like cleaning up the dog poop in the backyard with my bare hands. 

How does that saying go?
Fool me once…

Why are you guys so absolutely critical? It doesn't make this site look very pro-provider.

I’m on MintBoys. A client hired me from there yesterday, for companionship escort services. We hung out (in swimsuits) in the pool at his apartment complex with a mixed crowd of straight people. We had a great conversation and checked out guys together. Had a great time, he loved it. Others have hired me on there before, but very few leads. The ad is free unless you pay for a premium ad placement at the top.
I would try premium, but MintBoys ONLY ACCEPTS BITCOIN as payment for premium placement. They don’t accept fiat currency. No credit cards, nothing. Unless you’re willing to manage bitcoin holdings (I’m not), report your crypto holdings to the IRS (I’m not), and you’re ok with the extreme volatility of bitcoin (I’m not), then you are out of luck. This practically forces people to only put free ads on there. Or be the type of person that uses crypto currencies. I love real money, thank you.
Free ads, by and large, means a lower caliber provider base. If it costs you nothing, you don’t take it very seriously and don’t put much effort into managing or updating it, which leads to many of the guys on there being the more unprofessional types. I confess I don’t spend much time managing mine.
Some of my clients commented that they would never hire off MB because it looks like a bunch of “thugs”. I take this to be coded racist language. While it’s true there are many more black and brown people advertising, they vary in their presentation, profile content, and professionalism. The majority (of any race, white included) tend to present themselves in a way I consider less professional…
….Selfies, flashing a middle finger, blowing smoke into the camera, low quality photos, extremely manipulated or filtered photos, poor writing in the ad, drug references, scowling expressions, stuff like that. Overall they don’t look as good as the providers advertising on RentMen or RentMasseur IMO.
MB has no engagement built in. That’s why ads are old or outdated. Post it and forget it. As a provider, you don’t know metrics of how many views you get, you can’t see who viewed you, there’s no messaging system, no review system, no travel dates system, no other content providers can post like a blog or anything else longer than a short description and a phone number. Compared to RM, it’s like the yellow pages before we had the internet. Yes, I am that old! I’ve also used a Thomas guide more than a few times in my early driving career. I digress…
Before you dismiss MB completely, remember some providers on there are real and active and current. MB is one more way for me to introduce myself. RentMasseur generates many more leads, but if over a year I got even one client spending several hundreds of dollars for one session (and I did just yesterday), it still makes sense for me to advertise there. They’re not all bad.

I couldn't disagree with your take more.  As the old saying goes - Don't try to teach a pig to sing. It doesn't work,  and it only annoys the pig. 
He said what he said, and has nothing else to prove with faceless gutless posters.   He owes you nothing. 
 
I think he did well and I would encourage him to not feed the trolls more - he is beautiful and I will be looking him up when I am in LA. 
 
 

I appreciate your kind words and take no offense. I should add an addendum that not all is lost. Not everything is forsaken. Glimpses of a more decent epoch still occur. Gentlemen of class still very much exist within the ranks of today's clientele. Though such individuals are fewer in number, their contributions and counteractions do not go unnoticed or unappreciated. While today's rookies in the industry largely missed out, I do hope that some of them get a taste of what once was and still could be. 

Not, sir, for as long as you live and breathe.
Your post is an erudite and polished Apologia, as good or better as some of the best I've ever encountered.
I am sorry for the lack of consideration you've experienced from others, and hope I did not join that company in my joking -and perhaps clumsy- attempt to explain the dichotomy in reports of interactions between you and actual or would-be clients. Your expression of a personal viewpoint and perspective is welcomed and appreciated.
To echo the above poster's sentiment, Bravo!

Those that saw him liked him. Those that appeared to waste time he went batshit on. See the correlation?
Honor the appointment and no problems. A good time. Flake or waste his time... no bueno. Can you blame him?

I don't do drugs and I don't have bi-polar. What I do have is freedom. To be able to discern who I meet and who I don't meet is one of the few benefits this job provides. I claim it as my continued right. Fortunately for providers, unfortunately for entitled clients, this is not a conventional business where the usual dynamics and mores of a service industry apply. It is a two-way two-sided contractual transaction where both parties have the freedom to decide on who they meet. I can see why some would take issue with this right of providers and the existing dynamic, but that would suggest maybe they're the one with a psychiatric problem or some stunted interpersonal skills not I. 

I have a very strong financial incentive to meet you. Others are correct that I stand to financially benefit with ensuring an appointment follows through with you or if you cancelled, we meet another time. That is in my economic and financial interest. As indicated on here and my reviews, I've also met with countless others with no problems. So, if your personality or sense of entitlement is that much of a disincentive for me to meet, perhaps that calls for some introspection on your part? Essentially what it means is that I came to the conclusion that your negative attributes outweigh the very real financial incentive for me to meet with you as I have met with many others over the course of many years. However, I realize that it is easier and more effortless for some who lack this capability of introspection to instead convince themselves that the other person is crazy or on drugs. That delusion requires less work rather than confronting the reality that maybe you need some improvement in how you communicate and relate to others. If you can't even pay me hundreds of dollars to meet with you as I've done with countless others in this work (and in my personal hook up life I might add), then I sincerely don't know how such an individual can flourish interpersonally in this society. 
 
If this particular individual is who I think it is, then they have over eight complaints on MyNumber from eight different providers than myself. This leads me to caution others on here to not take everything that is claimed on here at face value. There are always two sides to an event or interaction. 
 
The website has a very judiciously sound, fair, reasonable and timeless rule when it comes to leaving reviews. If I did not meet you, then you don't get to leave a review. Isn't that great? According to the website:

If you did not meet the Escort no matter the circumstance the Review will not be approved. Since the Reviews are subject of approval, RentMen webadmin has the right to reject a review"

If someone attempts to leave a review without me agreeing to meet you or without us ever meeting, I simply message the admin with the receipts and documentation. To reference Tony Kushner's play, I am not Roy Cohn. I do not have clout. I am a homosexual.
 
If one is to do this, please do compare it with the correlations that may or may not exist with the IQ, level of agreeableness or social skills of the clients who like me versus the clients who dislike me. I'm more curious if correlational patterns exist there versus which phases of the moon, we're in.  That may better help in making sense of this great unsolvable mystery. Of course, that is if we are to think no correlation exists between those who actually met me versus those who I didn't even end up meeting.

As stated elsewhere, I've been doing this for a very long time. Some may even say too long. I've learned to watch carefully to subtle words and tone. My ability to detect whether it is going to work with a client is usually pretty immediate. A sense of entitlement can't hide itself very long. My senses end up being vindicated quite regularly because the reaction of a client to my rejection of them usually reveals further what kind of person they are. I also sometimes play a game where I'll say to myself after the first or second message "I bet this client has had complaints on Mr.Number". And time and time again, I'll be right when I look up their number. Sure enough, a handful of providers have complained about their time being wasted or a persistent pernicious arrogance that occurs in the appointment. 

Over the decade, there has been a very noticeable decline in client etiquette. The regression of society and our culture has been widespread and encompassing. Client and provider etiquette in this industry has not been immune to this bigger societal shift. It is an end of an era. When I started in this work, people didn't waste time. Date, time, location, and preferences were communicated clearly, timely and effortlessly. That was the norm back then, today it is the exception. Then people didn't act like I was their waiter or cashier. There was less ghosting, less last-minute abrupt cancellations, less flakiness, less of an attitude of "I'm the one paying". There was a sense of class and courtesy with clientele in these arrangements. A drink at a nice hotel bar before going up. An appointment that was scheduled days in advance. A nice meal before or after. Less unpaid labor and time wasting before meeting. Prompt and to the point on arranging, and more class/personality when time was spent together. Things have changed. I've heard others on the client-side label this development "the grindrification of escorting" when complaining of providers. In my experience, the regression has been on both sides of the deal. It's becoming something different than what it used to be. It's something else. I'm just glad that I got to experience its previous form while it lasted. I have a deep lasting gratitude that I got to live its final days before it dived into a lot of the current crap and nonsense. I'm glad my early days did not start in today's era. The time of decency is gone. 

In all seriousness, the kids obviously got a brain. 
Bravo!

I had the complete opposite experience with Ryan.  I haven't seen him since the pandemic but he used to pass through my city somewhat often.  I had a number of overnights with him at my house and I had a fantastic experience each time.  Very respectful and very accommodating.  One of his many reviews on RM is from me.

For what is worth:
 
The text from the 1 star review: 
"As mentioned in my chat with you, this escort scammed me out of $500. He got to my hotel room, we chatted for a couple minutes, he asked for payment, then 2 minutes later there was a knock at the door. It was a thug, and the escort left. Very scary, and disappointing that this type of individual is allowed on a reputable site like rentmen."
The text from the 4 star review: 
"Very cute , pics accurate , needs to be clear on what he offers"
The texts from the 5 star reviews: 
"Thank you for your amazing site, good sir. I hope your site is around forever."
"everything fine."
"He was really nice and a good experience. Was very clean and really a nice person too"

Yeah, tell me about it! Such different reviews!
I think he had a break from escorting, because he's been in Chicago forever.
I met him twice within, I think, the past 6 months. Easily the most intelligent and cultured escort I was able to meet and have a conversation with.
Of course, I was more impressed with his mind than his body....which seems to be a factor here.
 
EDIT: I should add that I don't generally hire escorts who mention their intelligence, as I'm admittedly shallow, and I've hired many "educated" escorts who seemed anything but. However, if his knowledge of the humanities is any indicator, this guy struck me as someone who received a humanistic education at a very good university.

Exactly
He is completely MY type and I had a great time.

- from the Movie Coco

Say something, I'm giving up on you ... ?
 

I'm sure everyone has heard it but it makes me emotional which, I guess, it is supposed to do.