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I met these gentlemen yesterday evening. As I mentioned it was my first threeway and they did not disappoint. I really enjoyed our time together and they exceeded my expectations. I would meet both together or either individually if the opportunity comes up. PM me with specific questions or for more general details if interested.

I'm going to be meeting them as a duo soon and will report back. After 30+ years of hiring, this will be my first threesome, believe it or not. Excited and nervous at the same time. I can't remember the last time I was nervous about an encounter and that makes it a very exciting for me. Perhaps this is exactly what I need to shake things up with my hobby that has gotten rather boring of late. I'm hoping for the best and mostly relying on their experience to lead the way but if anyone has any advice on doing a threesome for the first time, I'd very much appreciate anything anyone has to offer.

It is one of the benefits of this forum that when a provider participates in an open and honest way we get a real sense of the things (such as deposits and their approach to being hired) that matter to them and how they approach the business they are in. While someone will avoid this provider because of those things that he has stated in his posts, others will find it refreshing and interesting to engage them (to each their own). Love2GetMassaged is clear that he would not hire Jarrod_Unut, and that is obviously his prerogative. For myself, knowing the way he approaches his business and the model he uses, I am of the opposite view. I don't perceive his posts as arrogant but rather as someone who is confident in the way he approaches being a provider that suits his business model and I respect that. Everyone, client and provider, has the opportunity to engage or not based on whatever criteria they choose. Each of us makes our own rules, choices and decisions. From that point we move on one way or another.

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Yes, it isn't in his favor for sure, and that can be considered a strike 1 for me. Some other negatives for me include the following that have come up in our messages to set up a meeting since I initially posted here: 1. I already mentioned his rate is high for me (but still doable). BFE is 600 (massage is 400 and overnights are 2k). For me a true BFE has to include kissing and he confirmed that is off the table. Strike 2 2. He requires a deposit up front (20%) to book the appointment. Strike 3 3. I did ask for his OF page, which he did provide. It is $50/month, which to me is more than I believe I have ever seen and more than I would ever pay. Of course he can set the rate at whatever he wants but just seems a bit off to be so high (for me at least). He did acknowledge that the rate is high but gave some strange reason that it is in the process of being taken down so that is why it is so high. Anyway, 3 strikes and he's done.

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I hired him a couple times during or soon after the legal issues with CF started and I have kind of followed him for some time during various ordeals. He definitely has been through a lot and most not good. I was just thinking about him not too long ago and then his ad popped back up on RM. Tempted to hire him again to see what he is currently like (appearance, personality, etc). Would be an expensive endeavor based on his current fees for escorting.

You can make the math work if he joined the army at 17 (earliest age one can join the army), did basic training and started sequential tours of duty lasting from 6 to 12 months (typical length of tour of duty) with a few months back each time. He actually states in the Q&A section that he had 3-1/2 years total overseas. So that can add up so that he could start advertising when 21. However, he also states he was in the army for 8 years so he would have had to be advertising while still in the army stateside to still make the numbers work out. Of course I jest and it is just another case of age shaving so no need to wonder. He is, in fact (verified), 38 years old and will be 39 in a few months. I met him years ago. Personable young man, chatty and open about his life. Overall decent experience but nothing to write home about and probably would not repeat.

Stunning young man and I hope to hear that someone has met him and can report back on their experience. If I was in, near or planning to travel to LV soon I would take one for the team. I am also in the same mind set as @sync with regard to the motivation that many have for a lot of ink. I am ok with some but there is a point for me where it goes over the top. Fortunately for me, that isn't the case with Dosisdediego's tattoos.

I've been drawn to this ginger for some time and have come close to contacting him to set something up but there are several yellow flags (very mixed ratings/reviews on RM) and now a red flag from the OP. I definitely feel I've dodged a bullet on this one. Thanks @Jostar for this thread

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I had the complete opposite experience with Ryan. I haven't seen him since the pandemic but he used to pass through my city somewhat often. I had a number of overnights with him at my house and I had a fantastic experience each time. Very respectful and very accommodating. One of his many reviews on RM is from me.

I requested access to his private pics and he complied. Haven't been blocked (yet). Are those who got blocked premium clients (I currently am)? If not, it is pure speculation but I wonder if he only deals with premium clients for whatever reason(s) he may have.

When I see versatile/bottom and I am attracted to the pics and other info on the profile, I will reach out to see if they are willing to top as I interpret that description as being that the escort is very much versatile but has a preference for bottoming. How strong that preference is different for different escorts so I feel it is fine to ask when I see that. I assume at the start that in some situations and/or at some times they are willing to top. And yes there are some clients who enjoy having someone who is clearly mostly a bottom be a top. Call it what you will, like a fetish, but it does exist. As others have said, if you can't describe yourself as truly being versatile to some extent then change your ad and avoid the whole discussion.

It may not be an easy conversation and one he may not want to engage in but I would raise it up to him in a way to hopefully not burn any bridges. However, be prepared to move on. I had somewhat of a similar situation with someone I hired where the initial encounters were fantastic (energetic, enthusiastic, passionate, etc) but like a light switch at one point it changed to less than that. I continued to meet him because I enjoyed his company, it was convenient to meet and the sex was still decent (just not fantastic). We still meet from time to time even though he isn't on RM any longer and as far as I know isn't active as an escort. As we developed some trust and a kind of "friendship" I learned that during the initial meetings he was using ecstasy (molly) when he met clients and for one reason or another stopped after a time. So that pretty much explained the change.

I don't think those two things are necessarily mutually exclusive to one another.

The outstanding guy was very interactive, take charge and met my criteria for being satisfied (except no kissing). The waste of time was passive and just wanted to be serviced. Of course some guys like that but it wasn't what I wanted. I found both on Rentmen. If you do a search and list "straight" in the filter for orientation then you can see the options there.

In the past I've hired two straight guys. One was an outstanding experience while the other was a total waste of time. My success rate with bi and gay guys is much better.

Quick question/point of clarification for the OP regarding the system showing him logged in after you sent your last message. That may or may not mean he opened/read the message you sent. In the message dialogue if he did open your message there should be two check marks next to your last message (at least that is my understanding of that). I would have hoped he would have responded if he did read it but there may be a chance your message got buried in a barrage of messages he may have received and never got to yours. Just a thought but if he did read it and didn't responded then definitely ghosting you (or flaking on you if you prefer that term).

I don't see prices in RM ads that often (am somewhat surprised they allow it). I may be wrong, or maybe confused with RB when it was around, but I thought at one time there was a listing of rates under pornstar info section but that was some time ago. I actually wish it was more common than it is as it certainly saves a step. If I am interested in a guy but see his rate at $500 then I just move on.

My recollection and perception was that he is solid but perhaps not quite as muscular as his pics. His pecs didn't seem as pronounced, if that makes sense but that is a judgement call. I do think the picture in his ad is definitely him.

At one point his prior name was SensualPassion. I met him earlier this year. Feel free to PM for details of our meeting.