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Does anyone know of a male/female couple for a bi mmf session in Miami or south Florida? Or perhaps two providers that work with one another? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks 

I saw a listing for Hotel Gaythering in Miami, which is a bar/sauna/hotel.  I've never visited myself, but they list a themed room.
Hotel Gaythering – Where Gay Men Stay & Play in Miami Beach
WWW.GAYTHERING.COM The only hotel built for gay men, featuring a clothing optional men only sauna, nightly bar events in a top rated bar located in the best-rated area in Miami Beach... There's also the Metropolis Complex in Augusta, GA (formerly the Parliament House) that has a hotel that apparently has at least one themed room.  Also, a place I have not visited, because Augusta, GA.
Metropolis Complex - Metropolis Complex | Augusta, GA | Gay Travel Augusta, GA
WWW.METROPOLISCOMPLEX.COM The Metropolis Complex is your Augusta, GA Gay Male travel destination and also your home for local Augusta, GA gay clubs. We have clothing optional areas including... the

This is why bathhouses exist

Not sure what that means but okay if he's not your cup of tea.. the people that are usually so fast to say "Does not give me hot Vibes" hide behind a computer and doesn't show their face... 
A simple not my type would have been suffice.. vs your above comment. I see you were born the 1950s I guess respect went out the window the older you got. 
I was raised if you don't have something nice to say don't talk... 
Well anyways I hired him numerous times and he was amazing in bed and is a very hot sweet guy. He's respectful, and not crazy on Tina like a lot of providers lately.. 
When I visit NYC and have time I would book him again. 

I find it completely in bad taste, disrespectful, and also very rude that people talk about people's physique or how they look… no one has the right to give an opinion on how people look, no one knows for what each person passes on their physical appearance so that another person without any reason comes to judge and give an opinion because them life is surely very miserable and you have nothing more to do.

I think the OP posed a more unique question - 'how can we make it safer?', rather than 'should we or shouldn't we?'.  
The question requires a bit more nuanced discussion that has gone over many repliers. 

Provider here: All of these things are just common sense. 
These are good standard rules to live by! - except rule #3 which is unreasonable in my view. (There would be no way to verify the ID they show you is genuine anyway, but - to each their own.) My discretion is something I value really highly and I give my clients the exact same respect in return. 
 
Let me explain why I have deposit requirements:
The amount of last minute cancelations I have had, the amount of times I have been booked for fake appointments and gone to hotels only to have the client magically stop replying when I am only one block away, have made it impossible for me to work without a deposit from clients I have not met. This happened once to me 7 times in a row btw: Either fake booking or last minute cancel.
It has meant I have had no choice but to either quit or implement a deposit policy, but I try to make it as easy, safe and discreet as possible. 
My policy is - if you want an advance booking: 
You can send deposit by cash app (anonymous + private) or Venmo (anonymous + private)  I only require a small deposit - can be as little as $20-$50. whatever amount you are comfortable with, just send something to show me you are legit and serious.  I have over 50 positive reviews, you can contact the reviewers, you can see my pics, my address, etc. If despite all that that you are STILL uncomfortable with deposits, that is totally OK, I get it and totally understand peoples hesitation - some clients are in the closet or married, maybe they have a job that could be jeopardized and requires higher level of discretion, and after all you do read the horror stories here from people who send deposits of $1000s to providers with wonderful photos and no reviews,  - there could be a multitude of reasons why they do not feel comfortable with deposits - you can still just message me on the day of the appointment- and if I am still available, we can get together and we WILL have a fun time. The clients that are not comfortable with doing Venmo/cashapp - they more often than not still message me on the day, so I have found this system works well for these clients too. If they don't message, it's not a problem as I haven't cleared my calendar or refused other potential bookings.   
If you send me a deposit - I do then refuse to accept any other bookings in that time slot.
If you don't send a deposit and I keep the spot for you and you then cancel last minute - I am left in the red and its just not a viable way to conduct business.
Since I implemented this system it has weeded out almost all of my cancelations, and actually increased my bookings. 
 
 
Just to note- I get that people are worried about scams - as they should be - but you may not be aware that:
 Providers get contacted by scammers EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by pranksters EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by time wasters who are literally jerking off while metaphorically jerking us around EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
Just today I have been contacted three by fake accounts saying "I want to send you cheques just give me your bank details!" (of course they don't open with that, but they waste our time chatting first, usually pretending to want a multi hour booking). When scammers contact us pretending to be clients - we have no choice but to reply as initially, we can not tell the difference between a genuine enquiry and a false lead.  A client who says that they are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a provider who has many reviews  - but won't spend $20 on a deposit to lock it down - unfortunately lacks credibility.
I have proven to you I am real, authentic and genuine, a small Venmo or Uber allows you to do the same! 
We really put ourselves out there and asking for a minimal deposit is not a stretch too far.  
 
To surmise- The OP gives really good advice.  Take it!  The post is not about 'are deposit good or not', but how to do harm reduction and I think the points raised are wise and are super sensible - but of course there will be a chorus of anonymous profiles shouting "no deposits! scammers!"  I would bet the farm a good deal of them like to be able to cancel last minute! 
 
Have fun out there guys!  Be Kind! 

What a disappointing reply from a faceless, anonymous poster. I choose to believe your heart is in the right place and  I loathe to get into a tit-for-tat but I do have to point out some inaccuracies in your post. 
 Do you ever get called out to strangers addresses to attend inside someones house or apartment all on your own? Do you ever have to give out your address to patients? Do you ever get asked to go inside hotel lobbies wearing bow ties and wait for the client to greet you? Do you take bookings from anonymous style profiles on rentmen?  Congratulations on your alleged, very prestigious profession - But you are not put in vulnerable position that we are. We are certainly not the same providers, but IF you are a doctor, the only commonality is that we both help people.  

I pay a deposit to make advance booking with my I go to my hairdresser (which I go to monthly)  I pay deposits when I book hotels I pay deposits to advance bookings at restaurants. Here in NYC I even paid a deposit to book seats at a cocktail bar just this month!    ('Overstory'  if anyone gets the chance to go there - the drinks are INCREDIBLE)  I am having tattoo removal (silly decisions when I was a teenager) and guess what ? The clinic takes my cc details and charges me a no-show fee when I book the advance appointment!  You are correct that all professions have no-shows, but the scale at which we are inundated with fake calls and no shows is astounding.  Including from some people who post here on these forums. 
 
 
I think you may have missed the part where I mention I offer options for clients who -for whatever reason - are uncomfortable with deposits: message me on the day and if I am available we can make an appointment. But I will not hold a spot for someone who I have never met, from a google voice phone number, or random RM account - who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down.  Just like your 'I'm a doctor so my posts has weight' lacks credibility - so does these types of booking requests.
Check out my rentmen profile - check out my twitter. I put my name behind my words, which in my view gives it some weight.  Telling people to "Do not listen to the above escort." as if I am going to scam them is pretty rude and I take great offense to it.  I am a geniune, kind and trustworthy person - I have proven myself, and have the reviews to back it up. 

How does this protect me from fake bookings, prank bookings and no-shows again? (rhetorical question because the answer is:  It doesn't.)
But thank you for that very unhelpful advice!  Once again -somebody who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down lacks credibility. 
 
Finally - I am glad you profess to love & respect us. This post you just made didn't feel really respectful and loving. It actually made me feel the very opposite. 

What a disappointing reply from a faceless, anonymous poster. I choose to believe your heart is in the right place and  I loathe to get into a tit-for-tat but I do have to point out some inaccuracies in your post. 
 Do you ever get called out to strangers addresses to attend inside someones house or apartment all on your own? Do you ever have to give out your address to patients? Do you ever get asked to go inside hotel lobbies wearing bow ties and wait for the client to greet you? Do you take bookings from anonymous style profiles on rentmen?  Congratulations on your alleged, very prestigious profession - But you are not put in vulnerable position that we are. We are certainly not the same providers, but IF you are a doctor, the only commonality is that we both help people.  

I pay a deposit to make advance booking with my I go to my hairdresser (which I go to monthly)  I pay deposits when I book hotels I pay deposits to advance bookings at restaurants. Here in NYC I even paid a deposit to book seats at a cocktail bar just this month!    ('Overstory'  if anyone gets the chance to go there - the drinks are INCREDIBLE)  I am having tattoo removal (silly decisions when I was a teenager) and guess what ? The clinic takes my cc details and charges me a no-show fee when I book the advance appointment!  You are correct that all professions have no-shows, but the scale at which we are inundated with fake calls and no shows is astounding.  Including from some people who post here on these forums. 
 
 
I think you may have missed the part where I mention I offer options for clients who -for whatever reason - are uncomfortable with deposits: message me on the day and if I am available we can make an appointment. But I will not hold a spot for someone who I have never met, from a google voice phone number, or random RM account - who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down.  Just like your 'I'm a doctor so my posts has weight' lacks credibility - so does these types of booking requests.
Check out my rentmen profile - check out my twitter. I put my name behind my words, which in my view gives it some weight.  Telling people to "Do not listen to the above escort." as if I am going to scam them is pretty rude and I take great offense to it.  I am a geniune, kind and trustworthy person - I have proven myself, and have the reviews to back it up. 

How does this protect me from fake bookings, prank bookings and no-shows again? (rhetorical question because the answer is:  It doesn't.)
But thank you for that very unhelpful advice!  Once again -somebody who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down lacks credibility. 
 
Finally - I am glad you profess to love & respect us. This post you just made didn't feel really respectful and loving. It actually made me feel the very opposite. 

I think the OP posed a more unique question - 'how can we make it safer?', rather than 'should we or shouldn't we?'.  
The question requires a bit more nuanced discussion that has gone over many repliers. 

The analogy at least in my case just isn't adding up to compare the awful volume of non-commitments you've had to deal with. I've been seeing men for nearly a decade, and in every one of those circumstances (when the meet-up happened, and sure, providers can be flakes, too), I donate upon arrival, and EVERY time it's someone new, right away to prove being legit. This is countless encounters, with zero of those being ahead of time deposits. I had a total of five occasions, which averages out to about one in less than two years, of having the meet-up not transpire on their end when I've gone to their location.
So when I've been hesitant to pull the trigger (and from this subject on this forum, a major volume of men warn to not ever do so), and go ahead and leave a deposit because I REALLY wanted to see this person, it stinks for you & everyone else who has that requirement for your own protection that this turkey took my money for the sucker he thought I was. Again, I'd never done that before, and never had a problem when a meet-up transpired. Nobody wants to be victimized. We understand your reasoning for doing what you do, but understand our reasoning for not wanting to do it.

Nice to see providers who require deposits to put in their two cents, and I'd be VERY curious what kind of difference requiring one has done to their business levels compared to prior to reaching that decision.
The bottom line for most who seek company is that we'll more than likely find someone who floats our boat who doesn't require a deposit who potentially might not be who we were initially looking for, but could be as enjoyable.
To those providers who have reached the point of being past their wits' end of flakes, time-wasters, and no-shows, I completely get it. I am disgusted and ashamed of many (not most all, just way too many) fellow seekers of fun who sadly have reached such a low-life level of decency to ruin it for the good, honest, noble & timely men like myself who appreciate the company. 
I paid a deposit once and only once. The provider flaked, as I feared he would. Never again. 

Another inaccuracies/scaremongering- 
cashapp is anonymous and you can use any name you like for it - the provider who receives payment will know your cashapp profile name ONLY  which can be literally anything you want - including something like crazy like  "josh282282".  As confident as you are posting under that handle - you can feel just as confident sending money through cashapp under the same handle. No one can track down your information like that and extort you. 
 
It is a very safe way to send small amounts of money. 
 

What a disappointing reply from a faceless, anonymous poster. I choose to believe your heart is in the right place and  I loathe to get into a tit-for-tat but I do have to point out some inaccuracies in your post. 
 Do you ever get called out to strangers addresses to attend inside someones house or apartment all on your own? Do you ever have to give out your address to patients? Do you ever get asked to go inside hotel lobbies wearing bow ties and wait for the client to greet you? Do you take bookings from anonymous style profiles on rentmen?  Congratulations on your alleged, very prestigious profession - But you are not put in vulnerable position that we are. We are certainly not the same providers, but IF you are a doctor, the only commonality is that we both help people.  

I pay a deposit to make advance booking with my I go to my hairdresser (which I go to monthly)  I pay deposits when I book hotels I pay deposits to advance bookings at restaurants. Here in NYC I even paid a deposit to book seats at a cocktail bar just this month!    ('Overstory'  if anyone gets the chance to go there - the drinks are INCREDIBLE)  I am having tattoo removal (silly decisions when I was a teenager) and guess what ? The clinic takes my cc details and charges me a no-show fee when I book the advance appointment!  You are correct that all professions have no-shows, but the scale at which we are inundated with fake calls and no shows is astounding.  Including from some people who post here on these forums. 
 
 
I think you may have missed the part where I mention I offer options for clients who -for whatever reason - are uncomfortable with deposits: message me on the day and if I am available we can make an appointment. But I will not hold a spot for someone who I have never met, from a google voice phone number, or random RM account - who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down.  Just like your 'I'm a doctor so my posts has weight' lacks credibility - so does these types of booking requests.
Check out my rentmen profile - check out my twitter. I put my name behind my words, which in my view gives it some weight.  Telling people to "Do not listen to the above escort." as if I am going to scam them is pretty rude and I take great offense to it.  I am a geniune, kind and trustworthy person - I have proven myself, and have the reviews to back it up. 

How does this protect me from fake bookings, prank bookings and no-shows again? (rhetorical question because the answer is:  It doesn't.)
But thank you for that very unhelpful advice!  Once again -somebody who professes to be willing to spend hundreds of dollars but will not commit to send $20 to lock it down lacks credibility. 
 
Finally - I am glad you profess to love & respect us. This post you just made didn't feel really respectful and loving. It actually made me feel the very opposite. 

Cash transfer services have made it much easier to send someone cash - and has increase scams. A lot of this was learned "the hard way" but I have come up with various policies toward escort deposits that may prevent someone out there from losing money.
1) There is no reason for a deposit for same-day or even next day appointments - especially for an escort who is local.
2) New escorts with no reviews (or no recent reviews or photos) should not receive deposits unless there is a face-to-face video call beforehand.
3) No deposit should be sent unless the escort sends his full legal name.
4) Pre-appointment deposits should not exceed 20% or $500 - whatever is less. When the deposit is sent, it should include a note that no additional deposit is available.
5)  If you are furnishing transportation, that is considered part of the deposit.
6) "Emergency" requests for pre-appointment money should be denied. Doesn't the escort have other resources that a client they have never met or only met once.
7) Negotiations for deposits should be done on the Escort site (Rentmen or whatever) if at all possible. If the client suspects a scam, the escort should be reported to the site - as well as to the cash transfer service. 

Any additional thoughts on this?
 

Nuanced is not this board's wheelhouse.
I'd agree about the op's query, but I seriously don't see that particular conversation happening on this thread.
People here can be black.  People here can be white.  They have great difficulty in the gray area.

I think the OP posed a more unique question - 'how can we make it safer?', rather than 'should we or shouldn't we?'.  
The question requires a bit more nuanced discussion that has gone over many repliers. 

Jesus christ, the sturm und drang on this thread.
Pay a deposit, don't pay a deposit...  It's your personal call.  You do you.  Whatever makes you comfortable.
These posts- pro or con- aren't going to change the entire industry.  Yet we keep on mastrubating.
 

Provider here: All of these things are just common sense. 
These are good standard rules to live by! - except rule #3 which is unreasonable in my view. (There would be no way to verify the ID they show you is genuine anyway, but - to each their own.) My discretion is something I value really highly and I give my clients the exact same respect in return. 
 
Let me explain why I have deposit requirements:
The amount of last minute cancelations I have had, the amount of times I have been booked for fake appointments and gone to hotels only to have the client magically stop replying when I am only one block away, have made it impossible for me to work without a deposit from clients I have not met. This happened once to me 7 times in a row btw: Either fake booking or last minute cancel.
It has meant I have had no choice but to either quit or implement a deposit policy, but I try to make it as easy, safe and discreet as possible. 
My policy is - if you want an advance booking: 
You can send deposit by cash app (anonymous + private) or Venmo (anonymous + private)  I only require a small deposit - can be as little as $20-$50. whatever amount you are comfortable with, just send something to show me you are legit and serious.  I have over 50 positive reviews, you can contact the reviewers, you can see my pics, my address, etc. If despite all that that you are STILL uncomfortable with deposits, that is totally OK, I get it and totally understand peoples hesitation - some clients are in the closet or married, maybe they have a job that could be jeopardized and requires higher level of discretion, and after all you do read the horror stories here from people who send deposits of $1000s to providers with wonderful photos and no reviews,  - there could be a multitude of reasons why they do not feel comfortable with deposits - you can still just message me on the day of the appointment- and if I am still available, we can get together and we WILL have a fun time. The clients that are not comfortable with doing Venmo/cashapp - they more often than not still message me on the day, so I have found this system works well for these clients too. If they don't message, it's not a problem as I haven't cleared my calendar or refused other potential bookings.   
If you send me a deposit - I do then refuse to accept any other bookings in that time slot.
If you don't send a deposit and I keep the spot for you and you then cancel last minute - I am left in the red and its just not a viable way to conduct business.
Since I implemented this system it has weeded out almost all of my cancelations, and actually increased my bookings. 
 
 
Just to note- I get that people are worried about scams - as they should be - but you may not be aware that:
 Providers get contacted by scammers EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by pranksters EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by time wasters who are literally jerking off while metaphorically jerking us around EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
Just today I have been contacted three by fake accounts saying "I want to send you cheques just give me your bank details!" (of course they don't open with that, but they waste our time chatting first, usually pretending to want a multi hour booking). When scammers contact us pretending to be clients - we have no choice but to reply as initially, we can not tell the difference between a genuine enquiry and a false lead.  A client who says that they are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a provider who has many reviews  - but won't spend $20 on a deposit to lock it down - unfortunately lacks credibility.
I have proven to you I am real, authentic and genuine, a small Venmo or Uber allows you to do the same! 
We really put ourselves out there and asking for a minimal deposit is not a stretch too far.  
 
To surmise- The OP gives really good advice.  Take it!  The post is not about 'are deposit good or not', but how to do harm reduction and I think the points raised are wise and are super sensible - but of course there will be a chorus of anonymous profiles shouting "no deposits! scammers!"  I would bet the farm a good deal of them like to be able to cancel last minute! 
 
Have fun out there guys!  Be Kind! 

Provider here: All of these things are just common sense. 
These are good standard rules to live by! - except rule #3 which is unreasonable in my view. (There would be no way to verify the ID they show you is genuine anyway, but - to each their own.) My discretion is something I value really highly and I give my clients the exact same respect in return. 
 
Let me explain why I have deposit requirements:
The amount of last minute cancelations I have had, the amount of times I have been booked for fake appointments and gone to hotels only to have the client magically stop replying when I am only one block away, have made it impossible for me to work without a deposit from clients I have not met. This happened once to me 7 times in a row btw: Either fake booking or last minute cancel.
It has meant I have had no choice but to either quit or implement a deposit policy, but I try to make it as easy, safe and discreet as possible. 
My policy is - if you want an advance booking: 
You can send deposit by cash app (anonymous + private) or Venmo (anonymous + private)  I only require a small deposit - can be as little as $20-$50. whatever amount you are comfortable with, just send something to show me you are legit and serious.  I have over 50 positive reviews, you can contact the reviewers, you can see my pics, my address, etc. If despite all that that you are STILL uncomfortable with deposits, that is totally OK, I get it and totally understand peoples hesitation - some clients are in the closet or married, maybe they have a job that could be jeopardized and requires higher level of discretion, and after all you do read the horror stories here from people who send deposits of $1000s to providers with wonderful photos and no reviews,  - there could be a multitude of reasons why they do not feel comfortable with deposits - you can still just message me on the day of the appointment- and if I am still available, we can get together and we WILL have a fun time. The clients that are not comfortable with doing Venmo/cashapp - they more often than not still message me on the day, so I have found this system works well for these clients too. If they don't message, it's not a problem as I haven't cleared my calendar or refused other potential bookings.   
If you send me a deposit - I do then refuse to accept any other bookings in that time slot.
If you don't send a deposit and I keep the spot for you and you then cancel last minute - I am left in the red and its just not a viable way to conduct business.
Since I implemented this system it has weeded out almost all of my cancelations, and actually increased my bookings. 
 
 
Just to note- I get that people are worried about scams - as they should be - but you may not be aware that:
 Providers get contacted by scammers EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by pranksters EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by time wasters who are literally jerking off while metaphorically jerking us around EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
Just today I have been contacted three by fake accounts saying "I want to send you cheques just give me your bank details!" (of course they don't open with that, but they waste our time chatting first, usually pretending to want a multi hour booking). When scammers contact us pretending to be clients - we have no choice but to reply as initially, we can not tell the difference between a genuine enquiry and a false lead.  A client who says that they are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a provider who has many reviews  - but won't spend $20 on a deposit to lock it down - unfortunately lacks credibility.
I have proven to you I am real, authentic and genuine, a small Venmo or Uber allows you to do the same! 
We really put ourselves out there and asking for a minimal deposit is not a stretch too far.  
 
To surmise- The OP gives really good advice.  Take it!  The post is not about 'are deposit good or not', but how to do harm reduction and I think the points raised are wise and are super sensible - but of course there will be a chorus of anonymous profiles shouting "no deposits! scammers!"  I would bet the farm a good deal of them like to be able to cancel last minute! 
 
Have fun out there guys!  Be Kind! 

Provider here: All of these things are just common sense. 
These are good standard rules to live by! - except rule #3 which is unreasonable in my view. (There would be no way to verify the ID they show you is genuine anyway, but - to each their own.) My discretion is something I value really highly and I give my clients the exact same respect in return. 
 
Let me explain why I have deposit requirements:
The amount of last minute cancelations I have had, the amount of times I have been booked for fake appointments and gone to hotels only to have the client magically stop replying when I am only one block away, have made it impossible for me to work without a deposit from clients I have not met. This happened once to me 7 times in a row btw: Either fake booking or last minute cancel.
It has meant I have had no choice but to either quit or implement a deposit policy, but I try to make it as easy, safe and discreet as possible. 
My policy is - if you want an advance booking: 
You can send deposit by cash app (anonymous + private) or Venmo (anonymous + private)  I only require a small deposit - can be as little as $20-$50. whatever amount you are comfortable with, just send something to show me you are legit and serious.  I have over 50 positive reviews, you can contact the reviewers, you can see my pics, my address, etc. If despite all that that you are STILL uncomfortable with deposits, that is totally OK, I get it and totally understand peoples hesitation - some clients are in the closet or married, maybe they have a job that could be jeopardized and requires higher level of discretion, and after all you do read the horror stories here from people who send deposits of $1000s to providers with wonderful photos and no reviews,  - there could be a multitude of reasons why they do not feel comfortable with deposits - you can still just message me on the day of the appointment- and if I am still available, we can get together and we WILL have a fun time. The clients that are not comfortable with doing Venmo/cashapp - they more often than not still message me on the day, so I have found this system works well for these clients too. If they don't message, it's not a problem as I haven't cleared my calendar or refused other potential bookings.   
If you send me a deposit - I do then refuse to accept any other bookings in that time slot.
If you don't send a deposit and I keep the spot for you and you then cancel last minute - I am left in the red and its just not a viable way to conduct business.
Since I implemented this system it has weeded out almost all of my cancelations, and actually increased my bookings. 
 
 
Just to note- I get that people are worried about scams - as they should be - but you may not be aware that:
 Providers get contacted by scammers EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by pranksters EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by time wasters who are literally jerking off while metaphorically jerking us around EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
Just today I have been contacted three by fake accounts saying "I want to send you cheques just give me your bank details!" (of course they don't open with that, but they waste our time chatting first, usually pretending to want a multi hour booking). When scammers contact us pretending to be clients - we have no choice but to reply as initially, we can not tell the difference between a genuine enquiry and a false lead.  A client who says that they are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a provider who has many reviews  - but won't spend $20 on a deposit to lock it down - unfortunately lacks credibility.
I have proven to you I am real, authentic and genuine, a small Venmo or Uber allows you to do the same! 
We really put ourselves out there and asking for a minimal deposit is not a stretch too far.  
 
To surmise- The OP gives really good advice.  Take it!  The post is not about 'are deposit good or not', but how to do harm reduction and I think the points raised are wise and are super sensible - but of course there will be a chorus of anonymous profiles shouting "no deposits! scammers!"  I would bet the farm a good deal of them like to be able to cancel last minute! 
 
Have fun out there guys!  Be Kind! 

Provider here: All of these things are just common sense. 
These are good standard rules to live by! - except rule #3 which is unreasonable in my view. (There would be no way to verify the ID they show you is genuine anyway, but - to each their own.) My discretion is something I value really highly and I give my clients the exact same respect in return. 
 
Let me explain why I have deposit requirements:
The amount of last minute cancelations I have had, the amount of times I have been booked for fake appointments and gone to hotels only to have the client magically stop replying when I am only one block away, have made it impossible for me to work without a deposit from clients I have not met. This happened once to me 7 times in a row btw: Either fake booking or last minute cancel.
It has meant I have had no choice but to either quit or implement a deposit policy, but I try to make it as easy, safe and discreet as possible. 
My policy is - if you want an advance booking: 
You can send deposit by cash app (anonymous + private) or Venmo (anonymous + private)  I only require a small deposit - can be as little as $20-$50. whatever amount you are comfortable with, just send something to show me you are legit and serious.  I have over 50 positive reviews, you can contact the reviewers, you can see my pics, my address, etc. If despite all that that you are STILL uncomfortable with deposits, that is totally OK, I get it and totally understand peoples hesitation - some clients are in the closet or married, maybe they have a job that could be jeopardized and requires higher level of discretion, and after all you do read the horror stories here from people who send deposits of $1000s to providers with wonderful photos and no reviews,  - there could be a multitude of reasons why they do not feel comfortable with deposits - you can still just message me on the day of the appointment- and if I am still available, we can get together and we WILL have a fun time. The clients that are not comfortable with doing Venmo/cashapp - they more often than not still message me on the day, so I have found this system works well for these clients too. If they don't message, it's not a problem as I haven't cleared my calendar or refused other potential bookings.   
If you send me a deposit - I do then refuse to accept any other bookings in that time slot.
If you don't send a deposit and I keep the spot for you and you then cancel last minute - I am left in the red and its just not a viable way to conduct business.
Since I implemented this system it has weeded out almost all of my cancelations, and actually increased my bookings. 
 
 
Just to note- I get that people are worried about scams - as they should be - but you may not be aware that:
 Providers get contacted by scammers EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by pranksters EVERY. SINGLE. DAY.
We get contacted by time wasters who are literally jerking off while metaphorically jerking us around EVERY. SINGLE. DAY!
Just today I have been contacted three by fake accounts saying "I want to send you cheques just give me your bank details!" (of course they don't open with that, but they waste our time chatting first, usually pretending to want a multi hour booking). When scammers contact us pretending to be clients - we have no choice but to reply as initially, we can not tell the difference between a genuine enquiry and a false lead.  A client who says that they are willing to spend a few hundred dollars on a provider who has many reviews  - but won't spend $20 on a deposit to lock it down - unfortunately lacks credibility.
I have proven to you I am real, authentic and genuine, a small Venmo or Uber allows you to do the same! 
We really put ourselves out there and asking for a minimal deposit is not a stretch too far.  
 
To surmise- The OP gives really good advice.  Take it!  The post is not about 'are deposit good or not', but how to do harm reduction and I think the points raised are wise and are super sensible - but of course there will be a chorus of anonymous profiles shouting "no deposits! scammers!"  I would bet the farm a good deal of them like to be able to cancel last minute! 
 
Have fun out there guys!  Be Kind! 

Laconic 

As a provider I can say this - we receive MANY MANY MANY messages daily and very few from actual clients and there are a few ways for us to spot the time wasters and fakes - I have spent 8 hours in one day interacting with fakes. 
 
1. they have not read the stats in our profile.  "How big are you? Where in the city are you? Do you host or do in calls? Do you top?" 
All of this information is listed on my profile - by asking this it shows me you have not bothered to read it why means you are not serious. If I am spending this amounts of money I would read the profile.  its a HUGE red flag. you will get a short reply "Check the details on my profile!" 
 
2. Asking what city am I in.  This drives me crazy - when traveling the RM site LISTS THE DATES. I like to advertise 2 weeks before I travel to a city - but people do not bother to even look at the travel dates when clicking the profile.  often I will put "DC - 3rd/4th/5th" and people will message and then we go to lock in address and it is in DC and it is the 1st and I am in NYC. 
 
3. Messaging asking "What are you into?"   when you are contacting a provider and you are paying for a service - you should be telling us what YOU are into.  I enjoy a WIDE range of activities and am very sexual - that's why I do this job! I do not have the time to list *EVERY* thing that turns me on.  Tell us what you are looking for so we can save you time as well. 
 
4. Rates?  the amount if times you get a one two word message is really shocking.  you will get a more attentive reply with "Hi there- saw you add on RM, was wondering about your rates? Im interested!" instead of 'Rates?" 
 
The BEST first messages have a few things in them - 
 
 include your name. That you saw our add on rentmen. briefly say what you are looking for, and rough estimate of time you are looking for, where you are located if it is an incall you are wanting.  SIMPLE! 
 
For eg. Hello Angus, I hope you are well. I saw your profile on Rentmen. I am in lower east side, and am looking for a bottom who likes to kiss. Is there a time you are available tonight, and what are your outcall rates?
 
This shows me that you have seen are looking for something and it matches my profile. gives me a time, a place, and a name. It will grab my attention.