SouthOfTheBorder

The ad in the link on RM H_ngTravelers is a new ad since July. He had an ad using a different name prior with several positive reviews based in Miami Beach - at times working with another provider who appeared to be boyfriend/partner. the assumption here is that the escort ad is using real pics that identity him as the thief the thief & escort are likely one in the same - thus, the new RM profile. I almost hired him last Spring

let’s be honest - for 99.9% it depends on if they want to fuck you the gays are not that complicated

at $500 per hour - I’d rather fly to Barcelona & spend the long weekend in/out of Sauna Thermas. Yes, it’s way more in total - but I’d rather indulge completely. $350 is my top ceiling in the US. Beyond that it’s ridiculous, inflation or not. Funny how inflation for providers is not a thing in Europe ?

I’m in the minority here - I think she looks good. An improvement over some of the recent looks.

you’re right. sorry about it on my end.

agree. but, this is the strip-club business model, gay or straight no matter where located. they are selling a fantasy of sex, not actual sex. they all know they will get shut down asap if any real sex happens. I think the best that could happen is hiring one of the guys & going elsewhere. not worth it when there are dozens of provider options online without the work & expense.

well - whatever was happening at Fairytale pre-Covid was fun and didn’t have the procedure & cost of Adonis. Seemed like a lot of crossover between Spunk & Fairytale, but I never saw Spunk promoter there & did see the guy who owned Fairytale. It seemed like it was his thing at the time. Adonis is kind of a turn-off imo. The guys look bland & all the discussion about who’s flying in is boring. I like Spunk way better - down & dirty without the pretense.

I don’t remember it ever being marketed as Adonis pre-Covid. There were no email lists, high cover charges or prepays. Anybody could walk-in off the street. Pretty low-budget actually

is this about the specific dancers, or more about the experience in general ? i used to love Spunk & Fairytale (Fairytale before Adonis) for years before pre-Covid. Went regularly and had great times. Then it got boring & predictable - the faces changed, but essentially the same game: get your money with no actual sex. I’d still go on occasion to people watch a bit - but not expecting anything else.

LOL - well done some here feel a sense of entitlement to police the conversation and censor the topics and people they don’t like. I guess not reading a thread that has no interest isn’t an option when one lurks/stalks these type forums as a full-time gig. Life must be extremely boring & unfulfilling for whomever.

I wasn’t referencing MF only - a provider with no reviews on any of the sites would be a no-go for me, since typically they are on several at once. Just too much risk with all the crazy people these days. We each have our own thresholds for risk-taking tho and I hope he works out well for you.

I’d be very careful with any Miami/Ft Lauderdale “masseur” with no reviews. More scammers in those two cities than anywhere else IMO. That area seems to draw a certain type and lots of desperate people. And most of the providers there don’t actually travel between Miami & Ft Lauderdale - even tho they advertise in both cities and make it appear that they do. This guy, or anyone similar would be a hard-pass without some way to verify the profile & services.

I think one of the important things for me is hiring under the right circumstances. I don’t hire because I’m lonely or to cover-up some other problem. And I prefer being alone on Holidays when I can - no pressure, no drama, no travel & no fuss. It’s a luxury. I wouldn’t hire on Christmas Eve/Christmas - but more power to those clients & providers that make it happen.

feelings about age tend to change over time. I think men are most sensitive about getting older late 40s & through the 50s. Once you get to 61/62, I think it becomes a badge of honor in a way. There’s a realization that time is limited & very silly to be preoccupied with something inevitable. And this is cultural too - Latin & Asian societies tend to respect elders much more and less side-lining of older people. In gay life, this translates to much more interest in older men from men of all ages. As for providers - it’s often a hiring decision based on looks, which I think is a mistake. I’ll take sexy at whatever age vs exceptionally young/handsome every time. Guys who get by on looks alone don’t tend to be the best performers.

this is the thing w texting - we read into it based on how we feel & what we expect. if he’s a younger person & working provider, then inundated with friends, family & inquiring clients texts. the one word reply is an acknowledgment & answer to the question asked. the chatty conversation is for when he’s being paid.

totally normal - nothing to see here I wonder how the paparazzi manages to photograph their every move ? It’s almost as if someone is providing places & times and you can bet they employ several stylists to get that look

you will find many of the tops will bottom behind closed doors. I think this will depend more on the clients physical appearance than in other situations. but, it’s Brazil and they tend to be much more fluid and open-minded than just about anywhere else. If you are searching out that kind of scenario, it requires more work on your end and maybe more money than standard too. Anything is possible.

this makes sense & is professional - but, I think you and a couple of others here are the exceptions. For known providers who are well-reviewed, travel schedules are just fine. I can see the upside when there is an established client base in certain cities that make the travel worthwhile/profitable. For the vast majority of providers with travel schedules- I wouldn’t even consider reaching out because they tend to be fishing in the markets, the trips don’t happen, no courtesy to respond and/or the scheduling is too tight. Zero interest in playing that game.

if you think staying at home is expensive, just wait until you see what assisted living costs….costs of $10,000 monthly are not unheard of. And when your money has been drained, then you get booted to a Medicaid facility. And that’s the point - in any scenario, getting old in America will break you & your family

I completely relate to this & understand. my elderly parents also fell victim to 24/7 watching “the news” - even though they lived in a very safe & tranquil small town, they were convinced of all sorts of conspiracy theories that never came to pass. these channels prey on the elderly and manipulate by fear. just look at the ads on the shows & you know who the targets are - reverse mortgages, gold coins, memory supplements and other assorted scams. the non-stop consumption of “news” completely changed them & very difficult to carry on any sort of a conversation that didn’t revolve around what they had just seen on TV. And then at the very end - all of that made no difference whatsoever. Quite sad actually to have the last years of life spent that way. It’s all about money: monetizing grievance, fear & anger for profit.

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there’s a new TimTales guy from Paris that also is available as a provider - he’s on Hunqz

I don't understand "flying someone in" as a first meeting & I'll bet it never actually happens. I could see it happening after a relationship is established. So much time, money & effort involved for an unknown outcome - it can't begin to make sense for either client or provider. This scenario seems a sure time-waster.

The name is Pointe 202 - sometimes just called Pointe or 202. You can find a reasonable/safe/nice hotel within 5 minutes walking (or less) from there.

I wouldn’t try to stay close to 117 - no decent hotels there & it’s not a neighborhood geared towards tourists. Lots of better hotels very near Pointe in Copacabana. Travel time between the two saunas depends on traffic, which can be horrible. Within average traffic, maybe 10 minutes in Uber. Or, the subway/metro is an option with stations very close to both saunas. Uber is so inexpensive in Rio tho, that it’s not really a factor in decision making. I prefer staying with easy access to Pointe & then going to 117 when a change of scenery is required. Others may disagree, but I prefer hotels in Rio just due to extra security and not disturbing the locals in the place they call home. Most better hotels will not allow guests in the rooms though.