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Simon Suraci got a reaction from Luv2play in "Free Session"' in Chicago
He’s clearly wanting people to consent to be filmed for content. Don’t be surprised if he has narrow criteria for who he wants filmed.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + azdr0710 in "Free Session"' in Chicago
He’s clearly wanting people to consent to be filmed for content. Don’t be surprised if he has narrow criteria for who he wants filmed.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from Nightowl in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + poolboy48220 in "Free Session"' in Chicago
He’s clearly wanting people to consent to be filmed for content. Don’t be surprised if he has narrow criteria for who he wants filmed.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from Wings246 in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from realestateguy75 in "Free Session"' in Chicago
He’s clearly wanting people to consent to be filmed for content. Don’t be surprised if he has narrow criteria for who he wants filmed.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + ApexNomad in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + FLOutdoors in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from thomas in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + azdr0710 in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I love these sessions. I agree with much of what others have already said. It’s much less frequent for me (almost everyone wants sex-and, or sex-only), but I enjoy the men hiring me for dinner dates, cuddling, chatting, and other forms of general companionship. So many men need safety, a no judgment zone, and to be heard and seen.
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Simon Suraci reacted to + Jamie21 in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I’ve been hired for this kind of thing. Sex isn’t the point of the hire, nor is massage. It could happen but the purpose of the session is connection, companionship and closeness (physically and emotionally). If those things are achieved then sex sometimes happens just because you’re intimate with someone. There’s no pressure or expectation to have sex. We have done things like have a meal, bathe together, watch TV, go for a walk, visit a sauna, swim, gym session, lay in bed cuddling. The important thing is you do what the client wants, focus on them.
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Simon Suraci reacted to + PhileasFogg in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I have one regular that indicates that 40% of his appointments just want to talk
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Simon Suraci reacted to Gilfson in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I’ve been hired for companionship many times. It’s always been great lots of good conversation maybe a few drinks! I’ve spent weekends with guys where sex was never on the table. It’s a nice break from the sex work aspect sometimes!
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Simon Suraci reacted to + azdr0710 in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
Probably much more common than you think. Still, make sure you meet with someone who knows that's going to happen and not with someone who isn't prepared to listen and interact with you in that way.
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Simon Suraci reacted to + ApexNomad in Has anyone hired someone just to talk to?
I can relate. I suffer from migraines, and there have been times I had a session scheduled after a long travel/work day and was wiped out by evening. I wasn’t in the mood for sex, but I didn’t want to cancel at the last minute either, so I kept the appointment. What I ended up valuing most was the company; the chance to talk, cuddle, and just be close. Some of those non-sexual nights actually made the next session better because the comfort and connection carried over. It wasn’t the plan, but that low-pressure intimacy led to some of the best BFE experiences later on.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + SK in SD in Nick Capra in San Diego
One of my clients hired Nick for a group play session in San Diego. After sharing the client’s wishlist, he said the client is high maintenance, which to be honest, in many respects, is fair. In any case, Nick agreed to join. This was a week or more ahead.
I followed up two days before to confirm our time. He asked for another reminder which I sent about half a day before our meeting time. 15 mins before our meeting time, he texts saying he is running 15 mins behind and for sure will be there by then if the client still wants to meet. I agreed and asked the client and other hired guy wait up. Time comes and no Nick.
I reach out asking if he is still on his way. Nothing. 30 mins past our start time we give up and decide to start without him. I tell Nick as much with a text. Sure enough, halfway through the session Nick messaged saying he was 10 mins away. I see it after the session ends and he apologized saying he prides himself on professionalism, blah blah blah.
He didn’t miss out on anything. The other hired guy was completely unprepared. Literally unwashed, dirty butt inside and out. Then lied about it later saying he was shocked there was any problem, that he had spent a long time prepping, gaslighting me. Smelled like rank musky beef jerky. Who in their right mind goes to a session expecting to take a dick, especially anything of the proportions of Nick Capra’s without first making any effort to prepare? It blows my mind the things I see in this business. Sometimes I feel like the only professional in the room.
Scratch Nick off the list. This is why I shy away from content creators and porn stars. A lot of them don’t take their in person work very seriously, if they offer in person services at all.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from + ApexNomad in Multiple Providers, Different Rates
I usually charge my rate x2, x3, etc. I work this agreement out ahead of time with the providers I am coordinating to join for 4-hand and for group play sessions. Charging a consistent rate makes it easier for everyone and there are no negative feelings about getting paid less than someone else to do the same job.
Some clients prefer to pay each provider directly rather than the usual format of paying me and I distribute. Paying each guy directly works nicely for when the guys are charging different rates. Nobody has to know who is getting paid what. The guys may still ask (and tell) one another, but not always. Labeled envelopes are good for distributing cash to each provider quickly and discreetly. Digital payments are more of a hassle in this regard.
One of the guys I work with charges a $50/hr premium to participate in groups or to see a client couple. His regular rate is the same as mine and the other guys joining, but he was unwilling to do the job without the premium. Kind of a prima donna attitude, but it happens sometimes. I didn’t make a big deal of this with the other providers. I knew because I was coordinating the session, but nobody else did, and it was smooth sailing.
It doesn’t bother me whatsoever that someone is charging less or more than me. Everyone is getting paid their respective rates. As long as the client is happy with what he is paying and each provider is happy with what he is receiving, all is well. Others may have more of a grumbling spirit over rate differences, but not me. As long as the client pays me my rate, I’m good.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from DMonDude in Multiple Providers, Different Rates
I usually charge my rate x2, x3, etc. I work this agreement out ahead of time with the providers I am coordinating to join for 4-hand and for group play sessions. Charging a consistent rate makes it easier for everyone and there are no negative feelings about getting paid less than someone else to do the same job.
Some clients prefer to pay each provider directly rather than the usual format of paying me and I distribute. Paying each guy directly works nicely for when the guys are charging different rates. Nobody has to know who is getting paid what. The guys may still ask (and tell) one another, but not always. Labeled envelopes are good for distributing cash to each provider quickly and discreetly. Digital payments are more of a hassle in this regard.
One of the guys I work with charges a $50/hr premium to participate in groups or to see a client couple. His regular rate is the same as mine and the other guys joining, but he was unwilling to do the job without the premium. Kind of a prima donna attitude, but it happens sometimes. I didn’t make a big deal of this with the other providers. I knew because I was coordinating the session, but nobody else did, and it was smooth sailing.
It doesn’t bother me whatsoever that someone is charging less or more than me. Everyone is getting paid their respective rates. As long as the client is happy with what he is paying and each provider is happy with what he is receiving, all is well. Others may have more of a grumbling spirit over rate differences, but not me. As long as the client pays me my rate, I’m good.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from hungry4darkmeat in Multiple Providers, Different Rates
I usually charge my rate x2, x3, etc. I work this agreement out ahead of time with the providers I am coordinating to join for 4-hand and for group play sessions. Charging a consistent rate makes it easier for everyone and there are no negative feelings about getting paid less than someone else to do the same job.
Some clients prefer to pay each provider directly rather than the usual format of paying me and I distribute. Paying each guy directly works nicely for when the guys are charging different rates. Nobody has to know who is getting paid what. The guys may still ask (and tell) one another, but not always. Labeled envelopes are good for distributing cash to each provider quickly and discreetly. Digital payments are more of a hassle in this regard.
One of the guys I work with charges a $50/hr premium to participate in groups or to see a client couple. His regular rate is the same as mine and the other guys joining, but he was unwilling to do the job without the premium. Kind of a prima donna attitude, but it happens sometimes. I didn’t make a big deal of this with the other providers. I knew because I was coordinating the session, but nobody else did, and it was smooth sailing.
It doesn’t bother me whatsoever that someone is charging less or more than me. Everyone is getting paid their respective rates. As long as the client is happy with what he is paying and each provider is happy with what he is receiving, all is well. Others may have more of a grumbling spirit over rate differences, but not me. As long as the client pays me my rate, I’m good.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from BigMike08 in Tantric Leopard - 411
I had the pleasure of meeting the leopard himself the other night for a group massage exchange. He’s a beast!
Unique, creative, intuitive, wild, uninhibited, and dare I say in the best possible way…absurd in his approach. He will have you moaning and groaning with pleasure in no time. Fair warning, it’s a bit messy with all the nuru gel going everywhere on the table, no sheets, and full body contact. I say just embrace it and go with it, lean in to the experience. He’s nothing if not memorable. And sexy too.
Oh and by the way, his feet are, shall I say…dextrous?! Don’t @ me. Reach out to him directly for any questions.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from JMS in Nick Capra in San Diego
One of my clients hired Nick for a group play session in San Diego. After sharing the client’s wishlist, he said the client is high maintenance, which to be honest, in many respects, is fair. In any case, Nick agreed to join. This was a week or more ahead.
I followed up two days before to confirm our time. He asked for another reminder which I sent about half a day before our meeting time. 15 mins before our meeting time, he texts saying he is running 15 mins behind and for sure will be there by then if the client still wants to meet. I agreed and asked the client and other hired guy wait up. Time comes and no Nick.
I reach out asking if he is still on his way. Nothing. 30 mins past our start time we give up and decide to start without him. I tell Nick as much with a text. Sure enough, halfway through the session Nick messaged saying he was 10 mins away. I see it after the session ends and he apologized saying he prides himself on professionalism, blah blah blah.
He didn’t miss out on anything. The other hired guy was completely unprepared. Literally unwashed, dirty butt inside and out. Then lied about it later saying he was shocked there was any problem, that he had spent a long time prepping, gaslighting me. Smelled like rank musky beef jerky. Who in their right mind goes to a session expecting to take a dick, especially anything of the proportions of Nick Capra’s without first making any effort to prepare? It blows my mind the things I see in this business. Sometimes I feel like the only professional in the room.
Scratch Nick off the list. This is why I shy away from content creators and porn stars. A lot of them don’t take their in person work very seriously, if they offer in person services at all.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from SDcompanyman in Nick Capra in San Diego
One of my clients hired Nick for a group play session in San Diego. After sharing the client’s wishlist, he said the client is high maintenance, which to be honest, in many respects, is fair. In any case, Nick agreed to join. This was a week or more ahead.
I followed up two days before to confirm our time. He asked for another reminder which I sent about half a day before our meeting time. 15 mins before our meeting time, he texts saying he is running 15 mins behind and for sure will be there by then if the client still wants to meet. I agreed and asked the client and other hired guy wait up. Time comes and no Nick.
I reach out asking if he is still on his way. Nothing. 30 mins past our start time we give up and decide to start without him. I tell Nick as much with a text. Sure enough, halfway through the session Nick messaged saying he was 10 mins away. I see it after the session ends and he apologized saying he prides himself on professionalism, blah blah blah.
He didn’t miss out on anything. The other hired guy was completely unprepared. Literally unwashed, dirty butt inside and out. Then lied about it later saying he was shocked there was any problem, that he had spent a long time prepping, gaslighting me. Smelled like rank musky beef jerky. Who in their right mind goes to a session expecting to take a dick, especially anything of the proportions of Nick Capra’s without first making any effort to prepare? It blows my mind the things I see in this business. Sometimes I feel like the only professional in the room.
Scratch Nick off the list. This is why I shy away from content creators and porn stars. A lot of them don’t take their in person work very seriously, if they offer in person services at all.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from jrd025 in Who makes the first move
I agree with @azdr0710’s comment above. @DunwoodyGuy explained a lot of what I might say here about mutual touch, link to thread below for reference. Really, everything varies from masseur to masseur, so I can’t speak to everyone’s experience.
Above all, be respectful. Let him do his thing. Let the masseur initiate sensual and erotic interactions. A lot of us, like me, do. Others may be harder to discern. It’s ok to ask when you’re unsure if it’s ok to touch him. He could say no and you need to respect that, but most of the time he will say yes. When he does, be gentle and go slow. When he pulls away or moves your hand away, respect that. He doesn’t want to interrupt the massage to verbally communicate physical boundaries, so respond to his physical cues.
Respond to his massage physically and verbally. Give feedback. This sets the mood and encourages your masseur to touch you in the ways you like, to go further, deeper, maybe more sensual, or more erotic as you give feedback. Here is another thread below where I elaborate on this point.
@tantric leopard makes a similar point in his thread below, although his private gallery photos make it very clear what types of things are happening in his massages.
You don’t always know which masseurs will do what. I met an attractive masseur the other night who charges $300/hr for his sessions but he only allows a bit of mutual touch, nothing that erotic or interactive beyond it. Many of you here will note this falls closer to the escort rate range. Unsurprisingly, he is only doing three massages a week. Others like myself will regularly go much further in his level of interaction with a wide range of clients for something closer to $150/hr and have many more clients a week. Point being: Price isn’t the determining factor. It all varies.
Then again, still others fall along the YMMV spectrum, choosing who, when, and how far they go depending on the client, the connection, chemistry, looks, body type, equipment, hygiene, etc.
Sometimes things happen, and sometimes they don’t. The best advice I can give is 1) do your research, 2) ask the right questions, 3) be open to whatever will happen, and 4) respond to your masseur’s touch in a way that encourages him to go as far as you want him to go. He may not always go as far as you want, but your feedback encourages him to go as far as he is willing to go. Laying there lifeless, unflinching, and silent isn’t likely to inspire him to go there with you.
Re: advice point 2 above.
Try not to be creepy or craft a script for him to follow. Keep your questions general. If it’s not already clear in his ads that sensual or erotic work is on the table, ask for it. It may be a matter of pricing or confirming something general like yes he offers sensual massage.
Sometimes the less you know, the better. Asking very specific questions like, “Will you rim my ass?” will scare many of them away, creep them out, or make them uncomfortable seeing you…even when the unspoken answer is otherwise “yes”. Your masseur may or may not feel comfortable doing this or whatever (fill in the blank) activity for you, and he may or may not feel comfortable saying so, especially in writing.
Have good hygiene. Shower beforehand, use soap, and scrub all parts of your body. If you’re hopeful about ass play or getting fucked, make sure to properly douche beforehand. Same goes for oral sex. Wash your dick. Maintain good oral hygiene. Hygiene matters a lot. It sometimes makes the difference in whether your masseur will incorporate more erotic elements for you.
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Simon Suraci got a reaction from MassageCommunityMember in Nick Capra in San Diego
One of my clients hired Nick for a group play session in San Diego. After sharing the client’s wishlist, he said the client is high maintenance, which to be honest, in many respects, is fair. In any case, Nick agreed to join. This was a week or more ahead.
I followed up two days before to confirm our time. He asked for another reminder which I sent about half a day before our meeting time. 15 mins before our meeting time, he texts saying he is running 15 mins behind and for sure will be there by then if the client still wants to meet. I agreed and asked the client and other hired guy wait up. Time comes and no Nick.
I reach out asking if he is still on his way. Nothing. 30 mins past our start time we give up and decide to start without him. I tell Nick as much with a text. Sure enough, halfway through the session Nick messaged saying he was 10 mins away. I see it after the session ends and he apologized saying he prides himself on professionalism, blah blah blah.
He didn’t miss out on anything. The other hired guy was completely unprepared. Literally unwashed, dirty butt inside and out. Then lied about it later saying he was shocked there was any problem, that he had spent a long time prepping, gaslighting me. Smelled like rank musky beef jerky. Who in their right mind goes to a session expecting to take a dick, especially anything of the proportions of Nick Capra’s without first making any effort to prepare? It blows my mind the things I see in this business. Sometimes I feel like the only professional in the room.
Scratch Nick off the list. This is why I shy away from content creators and porn stars. A lot of them don’t take their in person work very seriously, if they offer in person services at all.
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Simon Suraci reacted to Nightowl in Eyes During Massage
When the massage transitions from therapeutic to erotic, it’s eyes open. I love having our eyes locked as things heat up.