Simon Suraci

Anyone feel free to PM me directly with questions or comments, or reach me on any of my several ad platforms or website. Or private message other members who have seen me to get their insights. My contributions here will necessarily be biased. I’m posting this message for everyone to know where to reach me and then staying out of this thread. I’d rather clients comment on me candidly here. I’ll do my best to not take things personally or try to influence conversations about me here. It’s important to share info freely and not feel like you’re being monitored. Even though it’s kind of difficult for me to ignore…I will try to. My contributions in the forums are often long winded, yes, but also quite thoughtful. At least that’s what other members I respect say about me. I’m moving to San Diego, CA in August 2023. You may find me traveling to other cities here and there in the future, but my home base will be San Diego for the foreseeable future. The past two years I’ve spent in Dallas, TX. Many clients in the DFW area can speak to the quality of my work, or those who have traveled to Dallas and seen me there. My specialty is deep tissue massage. Clients enjoy the balance I offer between quality therapy and sensual / erotic elements. Have fun, keep calm, and get a massage!

This happens to me too. A client texted me today to schedule a shorter, lower cost session right in the middle of a big block of availability where I could otherwise schedule two longer, higher value sessions. I honored the shorter session because he booked first. I give priority to those who book ahead, or whoever books first. I keep my word after I book them. In this case I had to turn down two higher session value clients because the resulting two blocks of time were each too short to fulfill either of the higher fee session requests. Then….the low value client no shows. No cancellation message, nothing, just ghosts. So now I’m out of the lower value fee AND the two higher value fees. Frustrating. Sometimes this happens, especially with new clients, and I accept that. I don’t let it bother me anymore. If I had canceled on the low value client to accommodate the two higher value clients, the two higher value clients may have canceled or no-showed as well. You never know with new clients what they are going to do. You can’t win, and there’s no way to game the system. Some clients are real jerks sometimes and there’s no escaping that. I honor my first booked, first priority policy because it’s the only objective, low stress way to handle these matters. It also rewards and encourages clients booking ahead, which I prefer anyway. This is the reason a lot of providers behave the way they do. I’m not saying it’s right, but our schedules are constantly changing. It feels like we’re reacting to a dozen things out of our control and trying to make the best of all the moving parts each hour of the day as it changes. And we’re trying to make good money and use our time most effectively. The occasional unusual circumstance outside of my control pops up requiring me to cancel or reschedule on a client, but I never cancel because I got a “better offer”. Unusual circumstances are things like my whole building fire alarm is sounding.

Or…just ask! Lol At least this gives you a reasonable starting point so you’re not expecting your provider to give you free services, or to underprice their services. Massages have value. Full service has value. It’s most equitable to pay time and rate for both.

Masseur’s 1-hr massage rate + masseur’s 1-hr full service rate Example: 60 min massage: $150 0-60 min full service: $300 Total: $450 A general rule of thumb: 3x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate. To do everything in one hour, split up however which way, figure 2x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate. Every provider will vary, of course.

The answer is relative to who is asking. I would recommend any of a half dozen or so masseurs depending on your personal priorities and needs. There is no one-masseur-fits all. Nobody is objectively better in every possible category than all the others, and everyone’s criteria is a little bit different. My personal top priorities are high quality deep tissue skills and professionalism. Everything else factors in to a varying lesser degrees. I haven’t been able to try all the choices over the past couple years, but I’ve seen quite a few, primarily for market research purposes. I would try more on my list, but I’m running short on time before my move to CA. I’d like to try Roman, for instance, based on thread comments. If I can this week, I will. I would normally avoid a guy who looks like Roman because more often than not the massage is lackluster in favor of “the view”, which is nice but tbh I don’t care. Even from a superficial carnal perspective muscle gods aren’t my thing, so it’s not that exciting to me anyway. Still, I appreciate a good looking fit man the same as the next guy. Massage quality is way more important to me. If he’s as good as others say, I’d really like to try him. Same thinking about Roman applies to Tristan. He’s a personal trainer and a muscle god too. I would normally pass assuming I’m paying mostly for the view, but from the intel here I decided to try him a while back and I’m happy to say I highly recommend Tristan. Excellent massage, one of the best around. Still not quite up to my standards (nobody in Dallas is), but he’s among the best available. He doesn’t do much in the way of extras, and that may be a downside for many of the clients reading here, maybe even be a dealbreaker for some. He offers HE for a $50 upcharge and he’s up front about it before the session which I appreciate. I saw him for therapeutic only because I don’t need any extras or HE or MT or any of that. At $150 for 90 mins therapeutic only, there’s no better value in town. Amazing. He’s among my top recommendations. Others I highly recommend for various reasons, alongside Tristan: JD, Dann, Jayden (leaving soon) Kade on MasseurFinder. Late 20s. Strictly therapeutic, outcall. No HE, MT, or other extras, don’t ask. Stays completely clothed the whole time. He’s strictly professional and quite guarded about client advances, borderline paranoid about it. No problem for me because I only want a therapeutic massage. If you see him, please show respect for his boundaries and you’ll be fine. Excellent skills, very reasonable rates. Cute. Works part time at a call center or retail, can’t remember which one he does currently. Fernando in Bedford, TX. Only advertises on MintBoys, not your traditional go-to places like MasseurFinder or RentMasseur. Offers Lomi Lomi and traditional massage, both sessions very good. Therapeutic, a lot more technical. 20s, Italian accent. Offers HE. It’s not the focus. Remains fully clothed until the end. YMMV. Book in advance. The following two you can find on RentMasseur. I work with them for 4-hand and other sessions. Each are more sensual/erotic. I can’t rate them overall as highly as the others because my personal needs are more therapeutic, but if an erotic and/or sensual spectrum experience is more important to you than traditional therapy, I recommend them. Glenn is more skilled with traditional massage but goes pretty sensual as well. Langston it’s more of an erotic focus. Btw, they each offer full service sessions at different rates: Glenn (Mustachioedman) Langston Here below is my regular guy in Dallas. I chose him because he is the only one who almost meets my very demanding deep tissue needs. He is certified, excellent at his craft, a joy to be around, and a great guy. I consider him a personal friend. Excellent therapeutic deep tissue work. Sweet, funny, bearish type, around my age. Tons of personality and spirit. He’s chatty, so be warned that may not be the best for everyone. I’m sure you can have a quieter session with him if you want to. Usually I prefer to zen out quietly during a massage, but he and I click and we enjoy talking the whole time. Chris (Oak Lawn) Therapeutic only, incall only. Maybe HE if you’re not pushy or grabby or aggressive about it. Stays clothed the whole time. I skip the HE even though I’m sure he would do that for me, I just don’t want/need that. I’m there for full body therapeutic deep tissue, and he consistently delivers.

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/37629/ Justin’s above thread is expired, so I’m starting a new one. I saw Justin earlier this year. If any others have feedback, please share, positive or otherwise. My experience was a profound flop. Justin is a nice guy, nothing against him personally at all. He’s pleasant. He just doesn’t provide a worthwhile massage experience. Everything about the experience felt to me like he doesn’t take his massage work very seriously. I do not recommend. A few highlights: Easy to schedule. So-so massage. Not skilled. Very little pressure, low quality. Not bad or painful or anything, just not worth a standard range massage fee IMHO. Music had ads. Who doesn’t love a good half dozen plugs for the Home Depot while they’re trying to relax? Massage space was an afterthought. He massages in his office in a business park in Medical District area where he works as a meteorologist. It has green screens and everything. Not a great environment. Pics are sorely outdated, and bad quality to begin with. I wasn’t primarily interested in his looks as an important part of my session, and he’s not bad looking in any way, but I do feel it’s only fair to note he’s a little different looking in person. Rather mechanical ending. Meh. He offered a little mutual touch at the end which didn’t interest me, otherwise clothed the whole time. Mutual nude and/or mutual touch is nice at times and I know others rather enjoy it, so there you go. Really this part of the experience is the least important to me.

It’s true. I say screw it. I’m busy enough without having to flag myself as available, and even when I do all the right things I still can’t boost my rating more than a couple spaces upward. I still do flag sometimes to help boost my rating, but I only do it when I’m actually available.

He canceled on me 5-10 mins into the appointment, same thing, family emergency. He didn’t charge me. So-so massage, not worth it based on the time I actually had with him, which was already a big disappointment. Frankly relieved I didn’t stay the whole time and have to pay for that. Attractive guy. Maybe escorting suits him better.

Posted this in the other thread on Jayden. Recently had a wonderful experience with Jayden, highly recommend. Must. Book. Ahead! And it’s totally worth it. Be patient. Heads up he is moving this summer. He plans to live out of state and spend part of the year in Mexico. Good for him. See him while he’s still in north Dallas while you still can! Not my top guy in Dallas because I have very high standards for massage quality, but he’s up way up there. He gives a great balance of quality therapy, looks, friendliness, and level of interaction. Goes the whole time, clear directions. Sexy voice (and body omg!). Looks just like his photos but friendlier in person. Great smile. 35 yo this year. You will love him.

Wholeheartedly agree, Dann and Tristan too. Recently had a wonderful experience with Jayden, highly recommend. Must. Book. Ahead! And it’s totally worth it. Be patient. Heads up he is moving this summer. He plans to live out of state and spend part of the year in Mexico. Good for him. See him while he’s still in north Dallas while you still can! Not my top guy in Dallas because I have very high standards for massage quality, but he’s up way up there. He gives a great balance of quality therapy, looks, friendliness, and level of interaction. Goes the whole time, clear directions. Sexy voice (and body omg!). Looks just like his photos but friendlier in person. Great smile. 35 yo this year. You will love him.

Agree. Recently had a wonderful experience with Jayden, highly recommend. Must. Book. Ahead! And it’s totally worth it. Be patient. Heads up he is moving this summer. He plans to live out of state and spend part of the year in Mexico. Good for him. See him while he’s still in north Dallas while you still can! Not my top guy in Dallas because I have very high standards for massage quality, but he’s up way up there. He gives a great balance of quality therapy, looks, friendliness, and level of interaction. Goes the whole time, clear directions. Sexy voice (and body omg!). Looks just like his photos but friendlier in person. Great smile. 35 yo this year. You will love him.

Now this is a case of the delusional client. Henry Cavill would never be bought for such a paltry sum! He’s so hot. Loved him in Tudors.

Those gym shorts tho….! I wear the same kind almost every day, also typically freeballing. Except mine have those little jersey style perforations in the fabric for more airflow. And I wear them in cool colors, or neutrals like white, black, or gray. Red is really unflattering on my pale skin. Works for this guy though. Love them. I digress…this is so off topic…

Excellent point. I agree. What a nightmare some guy presuming it’s ok to stay at your place after a hookup and then continuing to pressure you to allow him to stay. The whole under the trampoline suggestion sounds pretty desperate. Sounds like he may be living on the streets and this is how he is surviving at the moment. So strange. It’s like he wants you to make his personal crisis your problem. I guess it’s equally difficult to get them there as it is to get them to go. Escorts just want your patronage. The rest of society wants something else, whether that be your body, or a place to stay or something else. Most normal people would leave after activities have ended, especially after you ask them to go, and you explicitly tell them no. Not him! Frustrating. Hot boy though. Hope that booty was worth the midnight hassle. Value the pros. As much as hiring can be frustrating at times for various reasons, it offers real value. This is one of those points of value.

Anyone charging $1k/hr is either delusional, inexperienced, unprofessional, completely broke, desperate, all of the above….or….totally worth it and going to give you the most professional treatment you can expect from any provider you’ve ever contacted both in text and in person. Even still, that’s very steep. He’s not worth your time. This guy’s a clown. I agree with @BuffaloKyle it would have helped to close the conversation with the briefest explanation thanking him (you did) and saying you have decided not to hire. I think you reasonably did close the convo, without being so explicit about it. That should suffice, but the extra level of closure helps. It was the provider’s choice to initiate follow up contact with you the next day. That tells me he wants your business, but he’s treating you like you are wasting his time. It’s like he’s saying “please, grovel at my feet because I have a party trick of cumming three times without a refractory period.” Oh please, kid, get a grip and get a life. Some will take him up on his offer, but that pool of people is very, very small. He can charge 1k for one client, or something between $250-$500+ and have a hundred clients for every one who is willing to hire him at 1k. That’s his choice. Let him live with it, learn, and then either exit the industry, or get realistic with his business.

We are human beings. This is not an easy job, even though we make it look that way. We have bad days at times. You never know what is going on in a person’s life in a given moment. Maybe this was a bad day for him for some reason. He honored your appointment and he made an effort. The professional he was, he declined payment because he did not deliver on your mutual agreements and expectations. That’s fair. Uncommon, but fair. Kudos to you both for behaving so well toward one another. If the chemistry was such that he couldn’t do this with you at all, maybe it’s for the best. If he was just having an off day, I certainly think it would be worth trying again. Suggestion: ask him if, when, and under what circumstances would be best to reschedule. Maybe he’s better in the morning when testosterone is at the peak? I know I am. Or maybe he was too ambitious scheduling too soon after the last client. Not your problem, I acknowledge, but still, gives him a chance to redeem himself under better circumstances.

Phone convos are great, especially after first establishing contact via text. However, I don’t accept phone calls as the initial communication, or at any hour of the day or night at the drop of a hat. If I happen to be available and in a private space, and the person is already a known contact in my phone, I’ll take the call. The other 99% of the time I ignore until the client asks via text to schedule a call. If I answered every random client and spam call, I would spend all day doing nothing but unpaid talking, with no time left over to actually work on clients. I haven’t done one yet, but this forum has inspired me to create an intro video for my ads. I’ve never liked my “gay” voice due to my internalized homophobia. It’s not very strong, but it’s there, probably much more evident to me than to others. For many years I was highly critical of my own voice and hated hearing it played back, but have since learned to accept myself and love my voice. Anyone who doesn’t like me because of my voice can take a hike. That’s not the kind of person I want to be around anyway. So, maybe the video will be a natural filter, to attract more clients who like me for me and weed out the toxic masculinity minded types. I like that. Stay tuned for the video, it will be a while after the dust settles on my move back to CA…I need a fresh photos update too, should be in the next few months.

Reporting back. I’m happy to confirm that both guys charge the same rate. One husband is white, one husband is black. I already know the white husband and have worked with him before. I brought him in for my client who wanted to hire three guys for a group play session. Selecting him had nothing to do with my client’s preferences for a certain look, age, body type or race. It’s really just who I suggested based on existing relationships and a level of trust going with someone I know. The third guy is also white, but again same reasons for suggesting him. No particular client preferences (or my own, for that matter) for certain races. The client trusted my recommendations and had a spectacular time. We rocked his world. He has since hired all three of us again and really enjoyed himself. The client has also hired the other two guys individually for massage, but I’m still his go-to guy for his regular massages, and the occasional bdsm session. The white provider husband says that his clients who are interested in hiring two providers typically aren’t interested in hiring his black provider husband, specifically because of his race. Some are direct about it, some others are much less direct about why. It’s a shame. They’re both stunning IMO. Seems like you would get a better experience hiring two married-to-one-another-men who are both working in the industry and have great existing chemistry with one another. All to say, yes, implicit and explicit bias are still quite prevalent in the hiring world, but I am glad to confirm their rates are the same, as they should be, all other things being equal as they are in this case.

Almost the same conversation as this one:

If the OP @lseactuary90 has so little trouble hooking up with so many attractive men on apps and whatnot, I don’t understand why he even wants/needs to hire. Hiring facilitates a client’s path to access experiences with the people he wants, doing the things he wants, when he wants. These benefits have value no matter how conventionally attractive the client may be. Hiring is for everyone. However, if his aim is simply to bag a hot guy, that’s apparently easy enough for him without the transaction. Understandably, most of those won’t be mind-blowing experiences. I don’t see the point. If his goal is to make it faster and more convenient to have sex with men he’s interested in, then great. Hiring can absolutely fulfill that function. If his goal is to feel genuine love, I think the hiring route is futile. A client can have a great connection with a provider without it having to be something akin to love, but it takes effort and trying things, and seeing different people. Most of that feeling of wanting to call a man back stems from what happens outside of the bedroom. Not how hot he looks, or how good his body feels in an engaging sexual moment together. While those are nice and certainly make for a better experience, I believe that outside the bedroom concept applies to a hiring relationship and to personal relationships. For personal relationships, that’s chemistry which can lead to love. For hiring relationships, it’s chemistry on its own - liking someone for who they are and how they are, and for how they are to you. It can’t be love when the relationship is transactional. If the OP is looking for a feeling akin to love, or something leading to love, I believe that’s best to pursue in his own personal life. Not to say a provider has never fallen in love with a client, but that’s literally what we do: offer some form of performative intimacy that isn’t actually love, and can never be because provider livelihoods depend precisely on it NOT being genuine love. A man can be the best sex you’ve ever had, but if you feel nothing for him, the whole thing is moot. I suggest sticking to the dating or hookup apps, or meeting IRL. Nobody here can create the chemistry you seek through a recommendation. A client must find it himself, either in his own personal life, or through hiring different guys he’s interested in seeing. If the OP wants information on certain providers, it takes research and effort to put together a short list, as others have outlined. Once he has a short list, the forums here are great places to ask for more information about each specific one. Either way, personal or hiring, it takes work. Work to meet halfway to connect with someone, to have compassion, empathy, genuine interest in getting to know them, and find common interests and common ground as human beings and to celebrate those things. These matter, even if it’s a brief encounter. The looks and the sex are just a huge bonus. Maybe for some, the looks and the sex are a “starting point”. All of the above elevate sex and the overall experience to the level I believe the OP is looking for. Even if a client does the work of identifying the people he feels he might have the best connections with, the connection doesn’t always manifest. In that case, the only thing to do is keep trying with someone new until things click. When you know, you know, and it feels right.

I mostly agree. Good guy, and had an enjoyable experience once, but he’s sorely lacking in the pressure department. I would see him if you’re in the mood for a sensual, soft type of experience and some extras, but NOT if you need therapeutic / deep tissue work.

@Jarrod_Uncut, Welcome back! The last round of posts were pretty brutal. I don’t blame you for taking a break from the forums. Here’s my two cents on the above. I don’t expect you to agree with me, or to change your mind or approach. I don’t think I’m ‘right’ either, just different. I’m learning more and more that clients require quite a bit of handholding. The average COM member is not one of them. Gold stars to the clients who read the ad and tick all the boxes for themselves, but they are the minority, something less than half of all inquiries I receive. I believe the extra effort pays off in the end, drudgery though it may be. Not every client is going to work out, and I’ve found peace accepting that and moving on, while continuing to handhold the next one regardless of whether they work out either. Many of my clients have commented on how appreciative they were that I spent the extra time and effort to earn their trust and business. I agree it’s annoying that clients can’t be bothered to read the ad, but I’ve accepted that handholding is a necessary part of my strategy. That is, if my strategy aim is to have more clients overall. I can certainly spend less time and effort only accepting the clients who are with the program from the get-go, but my strategy is to balance quantity of clients with heavier investment in each of them. Your strategy I might consider to be lower upfront investment, but fewer (and perhaps better, easier) clients to deal with. This is where I think our approaches differ; being willing to meet the client where they are, figuratively speaking. Responding that the client is lazy (which is entirely true, btw) is off-putting. I wouldn’t want to hire someone that spoke to me that way. It’s rude. I’m not here to defend bad client behavior or tell you how to run your business, but I do want to point out how different approaches might yield different results. Knowing how you are, unsolicited suggestions won’t change anything about how you operate. That’s fine, and it’s not my aim. I still think the conversation is useful to have, if not for you and me, for the other members reading. Maybe you’re not willing to deal with clients who don’t read the ad. That’s fine. I get it. I don’t enjoy spending extra time typing out all the info (or copying-pasting), but I know doing this has gained me a great many clients I wouldn’t otherwise have. Many of them are regulars, so the upfront investment pays off over time. For me, it’s worth it. Maybe for you, it’s not. In either of our cases, a rude comment won’t do us any favors. That invites clients to lash back out at us, which leads us to the client calling you a hooker…that was uncalled for. A different approach, one I believe is closer to yours, might be to only deal with the clients who get it, and dismiss the remainder. Honestly, I think that’s a valid approach. You waste so much less of your time and energy that way. As long as you’re happy with the number and types of clients you have, go for it. You can’t complain about having too few clients though. The point is to have better, but fewer clients. Why not? Nothing wrong with being choosy about who you engage with, regardless of how rude or polite your responses are. It’s just a different strategy. Rudeness, however, I believe gets us nowhere, no matter what your strategy. I’m not perfect. Occasionally I lash out with a sassy or mean comment too. I regret when I do, and usually relent. This one below from today is me feeling pissy because I hate missing out on work. Clients like this require me to be immediately available to respond to a text, otherwise I don’t get the job. When I’m working at the time they text, I can’t possibly respond right away…and it’s not my fault; it’s poor client planning and zero client patience. I can’t control the fact that the client is only willing to book “whoever responds first” in less than an hour. (i.e. multiple provider requests = time waster client). That’s bullshit, but I’ll table that for another topic. Here’s the text with the client, whom I’ve seen before: Who else loves DARK MODE ❤️ ?

I just had a conversation with a prospective client over the phone today. He wants to book me for a weekend in his city a few months from now. I have family there and was already considering a work trip in his city, so I plan to coordinate around that knowing it won’t be a total loss should anything not work out, and a big plus if all does work out. I mentioned my “sleeping habits” and not-so-great sides of myself, emphasizing my value is in my waking hours. He didn’t care. I communicated expectations for having an hour or two to myself per day for working out and taking a break. Travel costs are to be reimbursed. All good there. We covered all of his wants and needs and preferences too. All good there. He still wants to book me for the whole weekend. I think the key is being upfront and open in your communication. Phone conversations help. Sometimes clients want you for you, no matter the hassle or cost. It’s worth taking risks, as @big-n-tallmentioned.