Please stop this “Total Top Only” crap!

[MichBoyBlake]

Interesting. But careful, I don't think that'll work for all...and I've had people feel so embarrassed because they thought they "cleaned out", until I pull out the summer's eve.

 

I douche, even though I bottom infrequently. It's good for my prostate and colon, and those cancers are prevalent. I can't just sweep off the porch, I've got to clean the gutters occasionally too. I can't just brush, without including the flossing routine.

 

haha I mean, every once in a while I do it. But I think I'm pretty careful and generally aware of the situation down there

[Nvr2Thick]

I started marketing as vers bottom and have since changed to strictly bottom.

 

Ironically what aroused my interest in this thread was the number of clients who message me asking if I'm a rough top, my dick size, if I can top for hours, etc. Even as I read the thread I am explaining to yet another that, while there are plenty of ways for two bottoms to have a great time together, if he wants a top there are other, better choices in Vegas.

 

I believe that many men will insert unrealistic self-serving aspirations and wish-fulfillment into any ambiguity. If a client is attracted to your pics and description, but his desires aren't exactly compatible then the "vers" part of vers bottom becomes his opportunity to project his expectations onto you. I heard similar stories from one of my regulars in NYC back in the 90s, a hung and built Brazilian top. In his ad copy described himself as something like "an aggressive, intimate top 'fucking machine' with a huge uncut tool for service" but he said he listed himself as a versatile top mostly because he liked to kiss and seduce his bottoms. His most most extreme example of a potential client stretching the "versatile" tag was a guy who called and asked, "Your ad says 'versatile' top -- can you come to my playroom to get tag-teamed and fisted?"

 

In the '90s I was hanging out with a friend in LA and paging through the Frontiers escort ads. I noted a guy we were interested in who had at least two different ads. One ad listed him as "Pete" -- a tall hung muscle top, and showed him from ribs to thighs in workout shorts sporting a big bulge. Another ad had a much better professional photo of him that showed off his entire body from head to knees, but he was in leather cap, vest, chaps and jockstrap -- and his ad copy was along the lines of leather play, domination and kink, and pushing your limits with "Tom," a hung leatherman. The ads were clearly the same guy -- same build, body hair patterns, exact same stats from height and weight to eye color and dick size, and phone number. When I asked my friend if thought he would call that escort he replied that he would call Pete's ad, but not Tom because he couldn't stand guys who were "leather queens." It took a long time for me to realize that he really believed at some level that he'd be connecting with a different guy and not just aligning to a different scene if he called this escort by a different name and held the image of different ad in his head -- even though he'd be calling the same phone number and speaking to the same man. The power of projection.

[+ Gar1eth]

I won't rant quite as much as you did, but gotta say it pisses me off when a "total top" sees my dick (I'm only 7.5") and decides bottoming is just a grand idea. ...

 

“ONLY” he says. What I wouldn’t give to be 2-1/2 inches longer!!!

 

 

Gman:(

[LivingnLA]

I won't rant quite as much as you did, but gotta say it pisses me off when a "total top" sees my dick (I'm only 7.5") and decides bottoming is just a grand idea. As a bottom (who much prefers oral - it's the "mean people suck/nice people swallow thing") I don't really need a bottom.

 

That's significantly above average.

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03/how-big-average-penis

 

If we're talking about a correct measurement from pubic bone to tip of glans (top side), a 16 centimeter (6.3 inch) penis on a human male is the 95th percentile. There's nothing "only" about a 7.5" cock.

[rvwnsd]

That's significantly above average.

 

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/03/how-big-average-penis

 

If we're talking about a correct measurement from pubic bone to tip of glans (top side), a 16 centimeter (6.3 inch) penis on a human male is the 95th percentile. There's nothing "only" about a 7.5" cock.

Thank you for that. If I measure it that way it is about 8". The 7.5" came from laying it on the table and measuring on the table.

[LivingnLA]

Thank you for that. If I measure it that way it is about 8". The 7.5" came from laying it on the table and measuring on the table.

 

Now you're just bragging. I require a clear pic for confirmation.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I wonder why is my mouth watering.

[Rudynate]

It’s funny that there is general consensus for what a true top is. Macho, straight acting He-man top. I wonder if there’s a general consensus for a true bottom?

 

I don’t have one. Do any of the tops here have one? I just like a guy that loves getting fucked. I find the twinks on Helix extremely sexy because they enjoy getting rammed. But I love the muscles bottoms on Tim Tales the exact same amount. I don’t think there is a fantasy bottom the same way there is a fantasy top.

 

I wouldn't identify as a top because I like it both ways. As I get older and my boners become less reliable, I default to bottoming more and more. But when I top, there's nothing more exciting than fucking a real stud man.

[TruthBTold]

I wouldn't identify as a top because I like it both ways. As I get older and my boners become less reliable, I default to bottoming more and more. But when I top, there's nothing more exciting than fucking a real stud man.

 

Do you ever ask yourself, "What the fuck am I supposed to feel as a bottom?" I haven't encountered a problem staying hard (unless I use poppers) but as I lay there being fucked I often wonder what I am supposed to be feeling. I like creating the circumstances so that the top works himself into a frenzy and shoots but don't quite get what my hole and prostrate do that orgasm dance.

[Rudynate]

Do you ever ask yourself, "What the fuck am I supposed to feel as a bottom?" I haven't encountered a problem staying hard (unless I use poppers) but as I lay there being fucked I often wonder what I am supposed to be feeling. I like creating the circumstances so that the top works himself into a frenzy and shoots but don't quite get what my hole and prostrate do that orgasm dance.

 

I have really high expectations of getting fucked, because once in a while, a guy makes me see stars. That doesn't happen often, though. The other times, it's OK, but nothing special. But even then, I just like having the guy inside of me.

[LivingnLA]

Do you ever ask yourself, "What the fuck am I supposed to feel as a bottom?" I haven't encountered a problem staying hard (unless I use poppers) but as I lay there being fucked I often wonder what I am supposed to be feeling. I like creating the circumstances so that the top works himself into a frenzy and shoots but don't quite get what my hole and prostrate do that orgasm dance.

 

I have pretty high expectations, probably not as high as @Rudynate, but I've been fucked "just right" and "seen stars," had trouble catching my breath afterwards, and could barely stand on shaky legs. What's been interesting for me, is exploring bottoming with the guy I've known for years. Since I'm the only guy he's been with, learning to be a good bottom for him while he learns how to fuck me versus how he fucks his girl, has been a fun journey so far. I know it makes me sound like a woman, by my mood really does impact my bottoming experience. And even a few degrees one way or another make a huge difference to how my body feels as he fucks. Angles, positions, pace all matter. He's blown my mind with fast short fucks and also slow leisurely it'll go on forever fucks. This is definitely something that takes practice.