Cruising With Escorts, Where Are They?

[rocky]

I've posted this periodically and hope I get some new responses. I like to cruise and do so with a regular escort in March; I pay all expenses and a daily stipend. I'm not expecting sex every day just companionship at my age 62. But my schedule doesn't always agree with my friend. So, how does one meet new young men, you can trust, to travel and have a great time with. I'm in upstate NY so very few here, just wondering.

[MscleLovr]

Interesting problem.

 

FWIW I also enjoy travel a lot, sometimes singly and sometimes with my boyfriend. I had success in recent years in finding a travel-companion by adding this interest to my online profiles and by posting on CraigsList. I used to detail where I planned to travel and stated upfront that I'd pay all expenses, but I stressed that we had to be compatible and the companion had to be physically attractive. I then used to screen suitable guys by inviting them to drinks and to lunch. I always looked for guys who were easy to talk to, polite and well-mannered. I also checked online into a guy's background, and I always took the guy I liked most out for dinner and a 'test-drive' overnight.

 

You will note that I did NOT offer online a daily or weekly stipend. I generally attracted nice guys who were keen to travel and have some fun in luxurious surroundings. I asked the guy what cash he might need to take care of his rent and other bills etc while we were away. In general terms, I found that the amounts requested were less than I was prepared to pay - often a lot less - and so I'd happily take them shopping for clothes etc. Maybe I was fortunate but I never got ripped-off and I always found that nice young men were eager to please and met my needs readily.

[AdamSmith]

Find a guy you like on rentmen etc., hire him to come visit you for an overnight, repeat until you find one or several where you and he click, and you both agree that you would like to take some vacations like this together.

[TopTierTop]

I've posted this periodically and hope I get some new responses. I like to cruise and do so with a regular escort in March; I pay all expenses and a daily stipend. I'm not expecting sex every day just companionship at my age 62. But my schedule doesn't always agree with my friend. So, how does one meet new young men, you can trust, to travel and have a great time with. I'm in upstate NY so very few here, just wondering.

 

www.rent.men/TopTierTop

TopTierTop92@gmail.com

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Feel free to contact me

[Epigonos]

TopTierTop

 

On this thread Rocky clearly states that he is 62 and looking for an escort with whom to travel. I also travel with escorts and at 76 am considerably older than Rocky. Now on your “411 on me” thread you make it very clear that your age “demographic” is guys between 40 and 60 and that you are not the best choice for “elderly gentlemen”.

 

If I may I would then respectfully like to ask you the following questions. 1.) Are you asking Rocky to contact you so you can recommend a fellow escorts who might be a good fit for him? or 2.) Are you asking Rocky to contact you so you can recommend yourself? If your answer to question 1 is yes then I completely understand your post. If, however, your answer to question 2 is yes then I am completely confused. Based on your clearly stated age “demographic” why would someone like Rocky (age 62) or myself (age 76) ever consider contacting you regarding the possibility of an extended trip together? Even if we were to meet you for a couple of hours for a pre-trip audition which we passed why wouldn’t we still have serious doubts about the possibility of an extended get together with you?

[Meo]

One of Abel Rey's videos talks about his take on cruising.

[Kevin Slater]

One of Abel Rey's videos talks about his take on cruising.

 

And it's a word of caution.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3UYeZGgJI

 

Kevin Slater

[escortrod]

Sounds like an every escorts dream client! Which person wouldn't want a free cruise and allowance... and you don't even expect them to have sex everyday. WOW

 

If it was me I would do it anytime you wanted whether it be once, twice three times a day because your going over and beyond to make sure the escort enjoys himself too and seems like your a nice guy and want company.

 

@rocky enjoy the cruise papi and the escort as well, he's a lucky guy

I can't say that I like the idea of being stuck on a boat. Add to that the possibility that the client and I may not be a match... at least on dry land it's easy to leave.

[AdamSmith]

I can't say that I like the idea of being stuck on a boat. Add to that the possibility that the client and I may not be a match... at least on dry land it's easy to leave.

This!

 

Whether with or without a paid companion, ship cruises have always struck me as the most insulated, artificial, no-contact-with-reality, no-way-out 'vacation' experience we have managed to come up with yet.

 

The 'vacant' aspect of the root word certainly applies.

[+ Truereview]

@rocky, although going on cruise may not be everyone's cup of tea, it certainly sounds like it is yours. What I take from your post is that you are looking for a companion more than anything else. @MscleLovr gave you great advice for that! It also sounds like you have someone you go with regularly but it may not be ideal. Have you written down what exactly you are looking for into this cruise companion? What would be ideal qualities beyond his being attractive to you?

 

I'm not suggesting you go find a perfect match to your ideal, but perhaps having this description handy could help you compromise as you follow MscleLovr's solid advice. Finding someone who comes close enuff to your ideal might work.

 

Also, fwiw, I'm a firm believer in instincts, and if you found @TopTierTop attractive, don't rule him out just bc of what we think about his profile's comments on age stipulations. If he made a gesture to be considered, give him the benefit of the doubt that he thought it through before posting, and interview him as you would others. At least he sounded interested- that's a good lead. Btw, [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER] sounded like he would enjoy such trip but felt short from saying "pick me!" Another solid lead to interview.

 

I would go with you but I'm boring on cruises. All I wanna do on a boat is lay out naked, get drunk, and fuck.

[mike carey]

Also, fwiw, I'm a firm believer in instincts, and if you found @TopTierTop attractive, don't rule him out just bc of what we think about his profile's comments on age stipulations.

+ 1. I don't know whether TTT was about to offer advice or put himself up as a possible candidate, but it was clear (to me at least) that his 60yo upper limit was about the potential client's frame of mind more than their chronological age. And TR, far be it for me to comment on your preferences for such an outing!

[mike carey]

This is an interesting discussion, apart from what @TopTierTop or [uSER=12155]@Dominiking[/uSER] might say. Is a cruise a case of an escort wanting his normal daily fee to join a client, or is there a different dynamic? I'm not judging and I can understand an escort seeing it either way. In the standard 'my fee is for my time' mode, it doesn't matter whether that time is in a city or on a boat, but does that apply if they are relaxing on a cruise and the escort can potentially have other dalliances? Or even if the expected reactions between the escort and client are not defined.

[MiamiLooker]

+ 1. I don't know whether TTT was about to offer advice or put himself up as a possible candidate, but it was clear (to me at least) that his 60yo upper limit was about the potential client's frame of mind more than their chronological age. And TR, far be it for me to comment on your preferences for such an outing!

 

Regarding the age restriction, I believe TTT has posted that if a potential client thinks he (the client) looks younger than 60, the restriction isn’t cut in stone. Have you ever met a gay man that thinks he looks older than his chronological age? He also posted that he cares what condition the client is in. I take this to mean he might consider accepting clients that are HWP and look younger than 60. I don't know if the OP meets this criteria or not.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/discuss-me.119494/page-5#post-1190494

“I don't really care what year someone was born, but I do care what condition they are in.”

[bigvalboy]

Regarding the age restriction, I believe TTT has posted that if a potential client thinks he (the client) looks younger than 60, the restriction isn’t cut in stone. Have you ever met a gay man that thinks he looks older than his chronological age?

 

True enough...

 

[jimboivyo]

I've posted this periodically and hope I get some new responses. I like to cruise and do so with a regular escort in March; I pay all expenses and a daily stipend. I'm not expecting sex every day just companionship at my age 62. But my schedule doesn't always agree with my friend. So, how does one meet new young men, you can trust, to travel and have a great time with. I'm in upstate NY so very few here, just wondering.

 

 

how? you make a list of guys with good reviews here and you email them your needs, narrow it down. it's a little time consuming but not that tough

[Rod Hagen]

What is the appeal of cruises? I've never been.

[+ purplekow]

When I began hiring escorts, I contacted an escort with the goal of having a companion join me at a scuba diving resort in Belize. The resort was an upscale resort on the beach and fairly isolated. I made contact with one escort who was good enough to make it clear that even though this was my vacation, he would still be working and as a result he expected his usual fee for a week's encounter.

Initially I was taken aback. Who would not want to spend a week at a high end resort and enjoy the sun and fun that was sure to follow.

The more I considered it, the more it became clear that my expectations of the escort would indeed fall within the range of the services the escort usually supplied. Whether we did those things at a 5 star resort or at a flea bag motel near the airport, his services were his services.

I asked a friend to join me instead. No sex with him but plenty of companionship and good fellowship. A hastily arranged tryst with a scuba diving instructor added to my satisfaction with the services of this resort.

I am glad the escort I contacted made the ground rules clear and as a result what had the potential to be an the kind of unpleasant week with an escort which Abel Rey discusses, turned into a great week with a friend and a memorable encounter with the man with the most defined tan line I have ever encountered.

[+ purplekow]

http://68.media.tumblr.com/d55c0f2852b072f44105f17ea2b82c7b/tumblr_o0ugwrsnPI1rutezpo1_540.jpg

[jimboivyo]

When I began hiring escorts, I contacted an escort with the goal of having a companion join me at a scuba diving resort in Belize. The resort was an upscale resort on the beach and fairly isolated. I made contact with one escort who was good enough to make it clear that even though this was my vacation, he would still be working and as a result he expected his usual fee for a week's encounter.

Initially I was taken aback. Who would not want to spend a week at a high end resort and enjoy the sun and fun that was sure to follow.

The more I considered it, the more it became clear that my expectations of the escort would indeed fall within the range of the services the escort usually supplied. Whether we did those things at a 5 star resort or at a flea bag motel near the airport, his services were his services.

I asked a friend to join me instead. No sex with him but plenty of companionship and good fellowship. A hastily arranged tryst with a scuba diving instructor added to my satisfaction with the services of this resort.

I am glad the escort I contacted made the ground rules clear and as a result what had the potential to be an the kind of unpleasant week with an escort which Abel Rey discusses, turned into a great week with a friend and a memorable encounter with the man with the most defined tan line I have ever encountered.

 

never forget, this is how they make their living. a vacation for you and the way to put money in the bank for them

 

I can't imagine anyone asking an escort to go on holiday gratis

[Mikegaite]

OP, to get a better handle on the intent of original question, I did a little research to see the previous incarnations of the question that you had asked on the forum. It seems like the question is not so much about the act of finding someone to spend a week on a cruise ship with you as it is about finding someone willing to travel to upstate NY.

 

There are several strategies you can employ to attract people to upstate NY so that you can become exposed to a new pool of escorts and subsequently, in an ideal world, click with one of them well enough to end up taking a cruise vacation with him. You mention in a previous thread that you are about three hours from Philly and NYC. The issue, according to a previous from post from you, is that “ “[E]scorts a distance away … say they will travel but when I say, I'm upstate NY about 3 hours from the city things change.”

 

So the larger issue is, how do I get an escort to travel to an area outside of a large metro area.

 

I would say the chief way to attract people to your area would be to sell yourself. What do you have to offer about yourself that would entice me to want to come to upstate NY? This doesn’t have to be monetary (e.g. increased compensation). It can be about you as a person. What about you makes me want to drive to upstate to NY to meet you? From your previous posts, I can see some aspects of your character that appeal to me: your desire for international travel, your political affiliation based on a few passing comments you made, and our mutual dislike of Pokemon. Moreover, I can get some sense of you as a person by analyzing your posts in the aggregate.

 

Physically, I don’t know much about you except your age, which is mostly irrelevant. I dated a guy who was 62 before and I’m a card-carrying member of AARP, and my favorite song is “How Much is that Doggie in the Window?” But I really wouldn’t care if you were 52 or 72 either. You met the long-time escort you see when he was 31; I’m 32. But if I were in my late forties, I’d note that I’m similar in age to regular. Since I’m not, I’d note that I’d bring something different to the table age-wise that you can’t get with your regular guy.

 

At the end of day, from reading your posts/reviews and researching for other information I can get, there’s not that much for me to go on. That’s totally understandable since I wouldn’t want to put too much out there about myself in public. But you could put a little more about yourself without being too personal. I feel a little creepy trying to find about you by combing through the information that you’ve posted in different threads, so it would easier for me if you made a hard sell all in one post describing yourself so that others could get a quicker sense of whether they would be a good fit with you.

 

Sell the profitability of your area. If I’m visiting your area, can I create an itinerary that concatenates different cities in the region to augment my income? Upstate NY has several major gay escort markets within driving distance. NYC/Philly/Boston/Toronto all seem reasonably close. There’s work in Albany, Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse as well, enough to justify my traveling there if I can line up the work. There’s also a pretty major porn studio that films in upstate NY. It’s not like you are in Bozeman, MT or somewhere it’s extremely difficult to travel to nearby business-rich cities?

 

See if you can coordinate with other clients who live in your area (via the forum) to bring someone into your area who otherwise might not travel there without sufficient business to justify the expense of doing so. I don’t feel comfortable publicly listing the names of other clients who have ties to your area, but people have publicly admitted they have ties to upstate NY on the forum, so you can find them or ask them to PM you. I’m pretty sure that on RM, you can actually do a search for clients in your area. So if you are in Saratoga Springs, for example, you can search other clients in Saratoga Springs. I can do it on my end as an escort at least to see all the clients (yes clients) who list themselves as being in Saratoga Springs. It might be worth reaching out to clients this way for suggestions on other escorts to hire.

 

You can also sell the non-monetary appeal of your area. Why do I want to visit your area? Pretty much all I know about upstate NY is that Hillary Clinton likes to take hikes there (https://mobile.twitter.com/HRCintheWild). But it’s got to have something else going for it.

 

If I can make a gazillion dollars a day in NYC, I’m going to need a bit of push to make a three-hour trip to upstate NYC. I traveled in the areas surrounding NYC/Philly to some extent, but they tend to be busts. My cancellation rates average close to fifty percent at times; while that’s not a problem in NYC, it’s a problem in an area where there are fewer alternatives if you have to cancel. But for the right person, I will take a risk and make a trip to North Dakota or West Virginia. I don't remember how much money I made traveling to Wyoming, but I will never forget my trip there. Sure there's a bottom line to seeing you in upstate NYC, but there's also a potential priceless experience to be had. Sell the experience.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Mike Gaite

[N13]

TopTierTop

 

On this thread Rocky clearly states that he is 62 and looking for an escort with whom to travel. I also travel with escorts and at 76 am considerably older than Rocky. Now on your “411 on me” thread you make it very clear that your age “demographic” is guys between 40 and 60 and that you are not the best choice for “elderly gentlemen”.

 

If I may I would then respectfully like to ask you the following questions. 1.) Are you asking Rocky to contact you so you can recommend a fellow escorts who might be a good fit for him? or 2.) Are you asking Rocky to contact you so you can recommend yourself? If your answer to question 1 is yes then I completely understand your post. If, however, your answer to question 2 is yes then I am completely confused. Based on your clearly stated age “demographic” why would someone like Rocky (age 62) or myself (age 76) ever consider contacting you regarding the possibility of an extended trip together? Even if we were to meet you for a couple of hours for a pre-trip audition which we passed why wouldn’t we still have serious doubts about the possibility of an extended get together with you?

 

I see that this has never been responded to. Interesting!

[+ WilliamM]

OP, to get a better handle on the intent of original question, I did a little research to see the previous incarnations of the question that you had asked on the forum. It seems like the question is not so much about the act of finding someone to spend a week on a cruise ship with you as it is about finding someone willing to travel to upstate NY.

 

I am not an escort, but I remember many of Rocky's posts over the year. He's very resourceful in finding long-term escort relationships in his area of NY state, but less so in the wider world, thus all the question for the last few years. I figured out how to find and hire escorts before this site existed. But, it would have been difficult to suddenly think like an escort. And I was more that a decade younger than Rocky when I first started hiring.

 

@Mikegaite , you deserve a huge amount of credit for reading Rock's posts and offering help. No wonder everyone likes you so much!.

[+ WilliamM]

I see that this has never been responded to. Interesting!

 

I suspect there are two reasons. a) Rocky writes in this thread that he's looking for young men and b) I have paid attention to Rocky's posts and never knew about Rocky's "411 on me." Could you explain, @Epigonos ?

[Epigonos]

The "411 on me" was posted by TopTierTop in the Deli I have bumped it back up. I was referring to that post in my own post on this thread

[+ WilliamM]

The "411 on me" was posted by TopTierTop in the Lounge. I have bumped it back up. I was referring to that post in my own post on this thread

 

The thread was in the deli, not the lounge. But once I found it, your post here makes perfect sense. Thanks for taking the trouble to move the thread!