Full time issue

[andrewboston]

May be me, but if I've had an ok time or better ... and the provider packs it up well before the hour .. it's a strong message he'd rather be elsewhere and doen't care about me or my business. At least he could pretend?

[cany10011]

i don't mind as long as I get what I wanted: intimacy, light massage and some playtime. Usually the (regular) guy is out within 45 minutes.

[craigville beach]

May be me, but if I've had an ok time or better ... and the provider packs it up well before the hour .. it's a strong message he'd rather be elsewhere and doen't care about me or my business. At least he could pretend?

 

I agree

[+ Keith30309]

I've had this happen a few times (a companion feels that our 2-hours is up regardless of what the clock says and packs-up) and it sends exactly that message - "I'd rather be anywhere else than with you -or- need to be somewhere more important than with you".

 

When the washcloth hits the bathroom floor it's like the starting flag at LeMans.

 

My objective in hiring is to achieve some level of intimacy and connection. It doesn't always work but the pros are at least able to sustain the illusion for 120 minutes.

 

The best companions genuinely enjoy their time with clients... most recently, the wonderful DannyCruz comes to mind as someone who made me feel as if I was valued and time was irrelevant; likewise with the uber-sexy Ironmaus and, less recently, MikeGaite. I'd hire any of these gentlemen tomorrow if circumstances allowed.

 

I'd recommend to any companion out there that there be a page in their playbook about people remember how you made them feel after the physical glow has passed.

[+ Truereview]

Kudos to the companions who can genuinely stay the full time. Those guys are unique, and we know the perfect batting average is impossible. Personally, I rather have 30 minutes of genuine chemistry and/or intimacy than 60 full minutes of pretending to have it. This hobby is supposed to be fun, and no one ever said the hobby was to be fair. When the service is physical and emotional, how can we possibly expect time to work out so robotically? I have found that there is an art and skill to knowing when something is done - part of what I've learned from this hobby: It is not on my time, but our time. When I've mixed my emotions, pocket, or insecurities into deciding to ask someone to stay the full time, I've ended up regretting it. I will also admit that I'm big on the James twins -Will and Choice, and if my companion's will and choice is to leave, so be it. I rather have someone leave early on a positive note, than someone leave on time on a lukewarm plateau.

[maninsoma]

i don't mind as long as I get what I wanted: intimacy, light massage and some playtime. Usually the (regular) guy is out within 45 minutes.

 

I personally do mind. I can appreciate someone being a "clock watcher" if it means he times things so that the session doesn't go over, but if someone is ending an appointment early then I am not likely to repeat. I'm not talking about a minute or two, but 15 minutes out of an hour session is a lot of time to cut out of a session.

 

I hired a very cute traveling masseur a few times a couple of years ago. I think it was our third or fourth session where he cut things short and, as I dressed, started talking about the long drive he had to see his next client. I probably would have continued to hire him for a least a few more sessions, but I interpreted his behavior as a sign that after barely becoming familiar with each other he already felt okay taking advantage of me. It didn't sit well with me. I'm supposed to pay for 25% of the time he's going to spend driving to his next client?

 

I guess some clients feel like a quick rub-and-tug is all they want, but I actually hire masseurs for a legit massage and, hopefully, a happy ending. If the latter doesn't happen but the massage is exceptional, I still might return to someone. But if someone does a half-assed job at the massage and then frantically tries to get me to cum quickly, I'm not impressed. And if it's an escort, there's nothing more robotic than someone rushing me out the door as soon as I've reached orgasm. I know that one cannot force real intimacy, but let's face it: It's extremely rare to actually, genuinely "click" with an escort where you start developing an actual friendship. Anything provided during an hour's time may be physically intimate, but it's not intimacy of the sort one would hopefully experience with a boyfriend/lover/husband. So, yes, I mind someone leaving with 25% or more of the time left on the clock. We're just letting our bodies be intimate for a while and the escort is getting well paid for that experience. I don't think a client having an orgasm should be a sign to a professional escort that he has fulfilled his side of the bargain.

[bigvalboy]

I personally do mind. I can appreciate someone being a "clock watcher" if it means he times things so that the session doesn't go over, but if someone is ending an appointment early then I am not likely to repeat. I'm not talking about a minute or two, but 15 minutes out of an hour session is a lot of time to cut out of a session.

 

I hired a very cute traveling masseur a few times a couple of years ago. I think it was our third or fourth session where he cut things short and, as I dressed, started talking about the long drive he had to see his next client. I probably would have continued to hire him for a least a few more sessions, but I interpreted his behavior as a sign that after barely becoming familiar with each other he already felt okay taking advantage of me. It didn't sit well with me. I'm supposed to pay for 25% of the time he's going to spend driving to his next client?

 

I guess someone clients feel like a quick rub-and-tug is all they want, but I actually hire masseurs for a legit massage and, hopefully, a happy ending. If the latter doesn't happen but the massage is exceptional, I still might return to someone. But if someone does a half-assed job at the massage and then frantically tries to get me to cum quickly, I'm not impressed. And if it's an escort, there's nothing more robotic than someone rushing me out the door as soon as I've reached orgasm. I know that one cannot force real intimacy, but let's face it: It's extremely rare to actually, genuinely "click" with an escort where you start developing an actual friendship. Anything provided during an hour's time may be physically intimate, but it's not intimacy of the sort one would hopefully experience with a boyfriend/lover/husband. So, yes, I might someone leaving with 25% or more of the time left on the clock. We're just letting our bodies be intimate for a while and the escort is getting well paid for that experience. I don't think a client having an orgasm should be a sign to a professional escort that he has fulfilled his side of the bargain.

 

+1

[wanderer]

May be me, but if I've had an ok time or better ... and the provider packs it up well before the hour .. it's a strong message he'd rather be elsewhere and doen't care about me or my business. At least he could pretend?

 

I had this happen the first time I hired. I paid for 2 hours. Not only was he out the door in a hour and 15, but he became a little weird - frantically asking for payment when it was on the table the entire time. I had to tell him 5x that it was on the table. Then he calmed down, said some goodbye. I understand you are worried that your going to get stiffed, but chill out and listen -- it's on the table. The kicker was the text message afterwards: how he enjoyed himself and would like to do it again.

 

After that, I have said upfront that I like when they stay close to their full time. If it is a few minutes, I don't care, but not 45. I usually set my phone alarm as well to alert me when there is limited time. It is a two way street -- don't jip me on my time and I won't waste yours.

[rvwnsd]

I had this happen the first time I hired. I paid for 2 hours. Not only was he out the door in a hour and 15, but he became a little weird - frantically asking for payment when it was on the table the entire time. I had to tell him 5x that it was on the table. Then he calmed down, said some goodbye. I understand you are worried that your going to get stiffed, but chill out and listen -- it's on the table. The kicker was the text message afterwards: how he enjoyed himself and would like to do it again.

That's just bizarre.

 

@andrewboston , I agree with you 100%. It has happened a couple of times. A guy who became a regular left early on our second or third playdate. I came and he started packing it up. About ten minutes after leaving my place he texted me and said something to the effect of "OMG, I am sorry - I left early. May I call you?" He called, apologized again, and said he did not notice he had left early until he looked at his car clock. (I think that was true - not once did he look a the clock when he was at my place." He thought when I came it was over. He said the next time he would charge me for an hour and stay for two. Sure enough, when I contacted him he said "can you spend two hours? I want to make up for last time." He stayed for almost three hours and when I offered to give him more $s he refused. I hired him consistently until he retired in 2015 upon moving in with someone. Obviously, he more than made up for those two additional hours.

 

Another guy who was a regular was antsy to leave what was supposed to be a three-hour playdate (when he arrived he told me he wanted to shorten it) and started packing up after an hour and a half the minute I orgasmed. I told him I would not make him stay, but I would pay him for an hour and a half. He agreed that was fair, but the look on his face was priceless.

[RandyC]

Kudos to the companions who can genuinely stay the full time. Those guys are unique, and we know the perfect batting average is impossible. Personally, I rather have 30 minutes of genuine chemistry and/or intimacy than 60 full minutes of pretending to have it. This hobby is supposed to be fun, and no one ever said the hobby was to be fair. When the service is physical and emotional, how can we possibly expect time to work out so robotically? I have found that there is an art and skill to knowing when something is done - part of what I've learned from this hobby: It is not on my time, but our time. When I've mixed my emotions, pocket, or insecurities into deciding to ask someone to stay the full time, I've ended up regretting it. I will also admit that I'm big on the James twins -Will and Choice, and if my companion's will and choice is to leave, so be it. I rather have someone leave early on a positive note, than someone leave on time on a lukewarm plateau.

 

Sorry to disagree but the time I pay for is my time, any time that chooses to stay over the agreed time is his time. If we choose to hang out off the clock, that is our time. Of course the escort is not a prisoner and can leave whenever he chooses. However, I expect him to offer to reduce his rate if he leaves earlier than the agreed amount of time.

[MiamiLooker]

When I've mixed my emotions, pocket, or insecurities into deciding to ask someone to stay the full time, I've ended up regretting it.

You should never have to ask.

[+ Truereview]

Sorry to disagree but the time I pay for is my time, any time that chooses to stay over the agreed time is his time. If we choose to hang out off the clock, that is our time. Of course the escort is not a prisoner and can leave whenever he chooses. However, I expect him to offer to reduce his rate if he leaves earlier than the agreed amount of time.

You've captured beautifully the heart of the issue. It no longer becomes an issue when you let go of concepts of full time, money's worth and instead focus on our experience, our pleasure. I realize this approach is not for everyone.

You should never have to ask.

Precisely! And I no longer do and it has proven liberating and has yielded very happy returns.

[MiamiLooker]

You've captured beautifully the heart of the issue. It no longer becomes an issue when you let go of concepts of full time, money's worth and instead focus on our experience, our pleasure. I realize this approach is not for everyone.

 

Precisely! And I no longer do and it has proven liberating and has yielded very happy returns.

 

I suppose that’s a benefit to hiring a professional. He’ll stay the fully agreed upon time period so the client is never put in the position of having to ask him not to leave early.

[TruHart1]

I have had very few escorts who left before the time agreed on was complete and then one who told me, "You've got 5 minutes before your time is up, how do you want to cum?". The majority of professionals I've hired though have not been clock-watchers to the point of going anywhere from 10 minutes to 30 minutes past our appointed time. The more professional the escort, the less clock-watching he does, in my experience.

 

TruHart1

[Becket]

Inexperienced escorts think the session is over at orgasm. The well seasoned escort knows that for many of us, what we need, what we crave, is now just beginning.

[LADoug1]

If an escort leaves early I wouldn't like it but would prefer him leaving to staying when he doesn't want to. Luckily this has never happened to me. And I'd be too intimidated to say anything to him. I know...my issues.

[LADoug1]

It doesn't help either if the escort has an enormous wall clock facing the bed. That's happened to me. Major buzz kill.

[+ Truereview]

I suppose that’s a benefit to hiring a professional. He’ll stay the fully agreed upon time period so the client is never put in the position of having to ask him not to leave early.

If that works for you, knock yourself out! The way I look at it is that there is not one right way to pursue this hobby and that, in and of itself, makes it far more fun for me to participate in it.

[AdamSmith]

I suppose that’s a benefit to hiring a professional. He’ll stay the fully agreed upon time period so the client is never put in the position of having to ask him not to leave early.

My experience is that non-professionals are likely to stick around long after the appointed time, being interested in the novelty of the experience and so on (provided the client is not a flaming asshole ). Thus my current interest in hiring from strip clubs, backpage, questionable local public venues , etc.

 

They are of course tipped accordingly.

[+ Funguy]

I guess I'm the outsider, or outlier so to speak. I can't remember when one of "my guys" has short changed me. In fact, it's very often the opposite and we go over. In one instance we were having so my fun AND an actually intellectual conversation we went over by 3 hours. When i went to pay - he insisted I booked for 2 and that's all he would charge! He got a real nice tip.

 

No, it's not the usual, but there are the good guys out there too.

[MiamiLooker]

If that works for you, knock yourself out! The way I look at it is that there is not one right way to pursue this hobby and that, in and of itself, makes it far more fun for me to participate in it.

 

If I were hiring someone who represented himself as a professional, I would certainly expect him to act as a professional including staying the agreed upon amount of time I was paying for. The guys I hire, for the most part, don’t consider themselves professional.

[+ Truereview]

The guys I hire, for the most part, don’t consider themselves professional.

Help me understand your point. The guys you hire (for the most part) don't consider themselves professionals, but do you hold them to a professional standard according to your own concept of professionalism? That would seem incongruent to me, but maybe I'm missing something or perhaps you are making an entirely different point?

If I were hiring someone who represented himself as a professional, I would certainly expect him to act as a professional including staying the agreed upon amount of time I was paying for.

Again, my point is that I cannot control (nor do I wish to) how an escort presents himself for this activity - i.e. Professional, amateur, part timer, escort star, performer, etc. What I can control is how I (as the client) approach the activity. In my case, my will and choice is to treat this activity as a hobby where there are no rules and expectations other than to jointly (with the escort's help) create a pleasurable experience -regardless of whether he stays the full time or not. This frees me from expectations and perceived disappointment, and focuses me on enjoying the experience instead. That's my approach and it works for me. If your approach is working for you, that's all that matters. Wishing you continued success! -TR

[Mocha]

May be me, but if I've had an ok time or better ... and the provider packs it up well before the hour .. it's a strong message he'd rather be elsewhere and doen't care about me or my business. At least he could pretend?

 

Is the assumption verbal, subconscious, or implied?

 

If it makes a difference, there's more than one time a client has packed it up and left before the hour is over. It doesn't mean someone doesn't like the person or etc. Some people subconsciously feel that after you both cum, time is up.

 

Generally, an hour goes by quickly. But not as quick as it seems. Maybe something like 90 minutes or two hours is more suitable.

 

If you want to use the full capacity of the hour, try to refrain from any underwear dropping for the first 15-20 minutes. That way maybe avoid the post orgasmic drop in IQ level and possible impulse to leave.

[MasterMaxRR]

Quoting Mocha "Post orgasmic drop in I.Q."

 

Love it!!! How true it is....

[DonaldTramp]

Love & light!