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Another reason not to get involved with the insanity that is known as Facebook. And it is beyond insanity in my estimation!!! I do have an account but only to preserve my Slotomainia winnings! I otherwise totally ignore it and use a different email which I never check. Of course I probably have missed out on making quite a few "friends", but that's friends in quotes.

 

It's easy to poo-poo Facebook. But there are some people on it that while not incredibly close to me that I still like to know what's going on with. For example-I have a close acquaintance named Shawn. We haven't lived in the same city since 2003, and I haven't seen him in person since around 2007. But I had a lot of good times with him over a two year period from 2001-2003. I would have spent a lot of lonely lunches in the cafeteria at work if I hadn't met him. Besides people like Shawn, my nephew and niece post a lot of pictures of my great-nephews and great-nieces. Since I don't get to see them very often, I can at least see their pictures.

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I'm going to offer a somewhat different perspective.

Everyone googles everyone. Not just escorts and clients, but co-workers, bosses, childhood friends, neighbors, in-laws etc. Whether that makes them stalkers or not is not the point. Everyone does it. So please if you're an escort who cares about hiding his real identity don't post the same photos in your profile that you post in your other social media accounts. If you do people will find out. And it's not only clients. A lot more people look at those sites than the guys who actually hire, and they all are vey capable of doing a simple image search. Welcome to the electronic age. Once you put your picture out there it's in public domain. So choose wisely! It's in your control until you put it out there.

 

Now as for the OP, I think you should tell him and here's why. He's either aware of it and won't care or he is not and will be grateful that you've told him. The worst case scenario is that he doesn't want to see you again, but at least he'll be aware that his own privacy is easily compromised.

12 hours is a long time and if you accidently divulge something, it will definitely make you look like a stalker, not to mention that it would almost guarantee that he doesn't want to see you again. Plus will you be able to relax and have a good time while constantly being cautious of everything you say?

Option three - if you do go through with it and don't say anything, then he continues to live under a pretense that he's identity is well guarded when in fact everyone in the world can easily figure it out.

 

For me personally knowing an escorts real name makes me very uncomfortable and regardless of if I've hired him previously or not I will tell him. If that makes me a stalker so be it. I know I'm in minority but it's just my two cents.

 

Finally we often see this question but we rarely hear from the escorts. So here it is guys: If someone found out your real name would you want them to tell you?

 

I also think telling the escort that you know some personal information is a good idea in this situation. If I were in his shoes, and after a certain number of hours you accidentally blurted out something about me, I would feel a bit creeped out - I would wonder what else you know and why you were holding on to that information. I imagine you might feel uncomfortable/slightly stressed if you were trying to keep something to yourself. Yes, you may risk him having a negative response, but that's his business and not yours. As we all know, privacy isn't what it used to be.

 

I'm also not saying that disclosure is appropriate in every situation. I've known more about many of my clients than I've let on, but it doesn't bother me to know, and it's unlikely to change how I interact with the person based on what I learn.

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When I first read the start of the thread, Prince popped into my head. This is why. My former wife and I were out to dinner the other night, and his name came up. We discussed the obsession, beyond plain ole passing curiosity, of his cause of death. Her comment was, "Who should care? He was a talent beyond compare. Gave countless hours of pleasure to millions. There are issues in a persons life that if they choose to keep private, should remain private." I think this can convert to us common folk, and relationships between clients and escorts. Both parties need to be safe, and privacies kept on their own turf. As far as letting go after ingesting alcohol? In this situation, never a good idea. It's like asking someone to keep a secret. If you want it kept a secret, don't tell anybody. If you need to unload, find a good therapist. This may or may not have much to do with the thread, but it did for me.

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I just recalled an incident many years ago where I mentioned to an escort that I knew that he had attended a certain college. The look of terror that came over his face was immediately quite evident. It instantly said that there was a stalker in the room. I then laughed and revealed that I was a forum member and reminded him that in a thread discussing basketball that he had himself revealed where he had gone to school and for whom he would be rooting! Still, his initial reaction spoke words...

 

Another time as I was leaving an escort's apartment someone had placed a piece of mail that was inadvertently delivered to the wrong mail box in his door jamb. It fell to the floor as the door was being opened. I instinctively reached down, picked it up, and handed it to the escort. Again a look of horror came over his face. In all honesty I never saw the name of the addressee so I simply handed it to him, wished him good evening, and end of story. However, again his initial reaction spoke words.

 

Based on personal experience I still say that "Loose lips sink ships". So enjoy your voyage with the guy and keep things afloat. If after the fact you feel that you need to make a comment then as usual I think that the advice offered just above by @Juan Vancouver is the perfect compromise.

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It may be part of our nature that we want to know something about the people we "bed down" with. My first encounter was an extended weekend. During that time there were extended periods of time in which we both shared our lives. Prior to meeting, I did not do ANY type of background checking or social media checking. Come to find out, he did on me! And, he lots of info to collect. We still hoot over that one. As I say, I do not look good in orange! We all come from a history, and I would refrain from just bringing it up. Perhaps conversation will just flow naturally, and he will feel comfortable with you to be more oral than just what you hired him for!?!

Big LOL @wisconsinguy!!! I know that story only too well! And to think I thought that the othe WG was this sweet and harmless guy when we first met. Seriously, it all proves that it's often not a good idea to be a sleuth. It also says that even though the escort did check the other WG out, he instinctively knew that he was a good and quite decent individual. But then again the nefarious wisconsinguy might have fooled the both of us! Just kidding or course!

 

In any event, if a guy tells me about himself and his real name that's fine with me, if not that's fine as well. Heck if you go to an escort's apartment or home it's easy to do a google search. There is absolutely no privacy anymore in that regard. Sleuthing is something that I don't need to do. There is only one escort who has come to my home a number of times. It's funny, but every time that he does so I have to tell him the address. Perhaps he knows more about me than I think that he knows, but at least he does not make me feel that as far as my address is concerned that he has it listed in some sort of little infamous black book that will someday be turned over to TMZ!

 

One final thought... Once I was talking with an escort lying there after the fact and he said to me that when he was a kid his mother would always say, "Arthur, stop doing that or you're going to get in trouble!" He then added, "Oh, now you know my real name. I have always hated that name!" Yet, other escorts indeed use their real first names. Others give it to you upon first meeting. Others prefer their stage name. Either way it works for me.

 

Oh, to the OP... SILENCE IS GOLDEN!

In my humble opinion, the important word here is DISCREET!

 

It just so happens I know both the escort WG2 refers to AND the escort who visits WG at his home. Both are men with excellent reputations/reviews as escorts. In their cases, they each told me their real names during our very first meeting and are generally pretty open about themselves. Still, as people, escorts have as much right to their private lives as clients do. For that reason, if I inadvertently discover personal/private information about an escort who chooses NOT to share his private information, I will never be indiscreet by either informing the escort of my knowledge or by sharing his private information with anyone else. I can respect what the escort is comfortable with, especially concerning his private life.

 

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Who needs a government Big Brother when now we have Facebook and Google trying to track us across multiple websites?

 

They aren't even trying. Folk are willingly using their Facebook account to sign up for other websites.

 

As the saying goes, there's no such thing as a free lunch. We're just selling our identities to get a email account. :rolleyes:

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In my humble opinion, the important word here is DISCREET!

 

It just so happens I know both the escort WG2 refers to AND the escort who visits WG at his home. Both are men with excellent reputations/reviews as escorts. In their cases, they each told me their real names during our very first meeting and are generally pretty open about themselves. Still, as people, escorts have as much right to their private lives as clients do. For that reason, if I inadvertently discover personal/private information about an escort who chooses NOT to share his private information, I will never be indiscreet by either informing the escort of my knowledge or by sharing his private information with anyone else. I can respect what the escort is comfortable with, especially concerning his private life.

 

TruHart1 :cool:

I have always wanted to get these two escorts in the same room at the same time! In many ways they are so different. As such something tells me that they would complement each other quite nicely. In a way that's a compliment to both!

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I have come to the conclusion that it is better not to find out too much about the personal lives of escorts, even if they are regulars.

 

I became involved with an escort late 2O14. After the first session he told me what his real name was. Of course I googled it. Turns out the guy had done a photoshoot for Joseph Mileuske. His pictures were on literally 1OOs of tumblr and other social media pages. There was a ton of information out there about him. He had a profile on just about every gay and straight dating website you can think of. I got to know him quite well and must have hired him 3, sometimes 4 times a week. He even introduced me to his parents. Six months ago, for reasons that are not important, he broke it off abruptly.

 

After the break up, I was truly upset. I could not and cannot bring myself to move on. I turned into a virtual cyber-stalker, look at his FaceBook, Instagram and Twitter accounts every day. I still look at who his new friends are and which parties he goes to. The whole thing is extremely unhealthy and totally unproductive. But I can't bring myself to stop.

 

My conclusion - if I had not known much about his life beyond escorting, none of this would have happened. The relationship would have been entirely professional, and it would have been a lot easier accept that it ended.

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I have always wanted to get these two escorts in the same room at the same time! In many ways they are so different. As such something tells me that they would complement each other quite nicely. In a way that's a compliment to both!

Now THAT's something that would be the stuff of wet dreams, even though the scenario would most likely go far beyond my usual vanilla experiences. Still, the two opposite types together, yes, oh YES! You could probably make it happen, WG. Just a matter of getting them to cum together in the same geographical area!!! :D;)

 

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This is very interesting (and scary, but forewarned is forearmed).

 

I'd like to think I'm fairly discreet and personal info would only be available to someone who 1) is technically adept, and, 2) who REALLY wants to know badly, but recursively aggregating and correlating data and meta-data can lead to surprising places. I may not be as isolated as I think.

 

For those who have found information about others how was the data aggregated? Obviously Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and Tumblr can all reveal info my matching photos and phone numbers.

What other ways does this happen?

 

What say ye, technical wizards?

 

Information isn't necessarily aggregated as it is scattered. Google and other tools do the aggregation on the fly.

 

The most common links I find are:

 

Phone number:

  • The phone number may link to a directory giving name and address. Some of these directories managed to get ahold of the information provided to the cell provider when the phone was registered. Sometimes even a burn phone can carry some registration information. You aren't required to give a valid name in some instances. For example, when Rocco Steele first started escorting I was able to look up his real name and address by Googling his phone number from his first Rentboy ad. Now if I look up his current ad's phone number using a deeper directory search I only see this phone registered to "Rocco S".
  • Using the same phone number in business postings, or on personal posts or tweets, or classified ads can lead back to other personal information. An escort, for example, was selling a car on a social media group page. His phone number is in one of the responses, as is his real first name. He provided an address to an interested buyer. Even though his phone number itself didn't provide a search back to a directory with his name I was able to quickly turn up his first name and address. Searching on his address might turn up another piece of information. The car sale occurred years ago, but that information will still be available for quite some time.

 

Pictures:

  • Some guys use the same "G" pictures on escort ads and personal social media profiles. Google Image Search will quickly expose their identities in this case. Even if a guy crops his head off of a good body shot the image search may turn up the uncropped picture.

 

Profile names and email addresses:

  • If I used my Nvr2Thick handle as an email address that may also provide a link back to other social media posts where I provided an address. If I set up a gmail or yahoo address with that handle I may have provided my real first and last name when I registered. A search on that handle may pull up personal profile information, depending on how much the provider exposes and how well I've set my privacy settings.
  • If an escort provides an e-mail address it may provide another such link to relevant information if his handle on this site or on Rentmen is different.
  • If an escort is visiting Cleveland, for example, I might get on Adam4Adam or BarebackRT for Cleveland and stumble across (or aggressively search for) his escort and/or personal profiles. An escort may be advertising on one of those sites as Niner4Sale and cruising personally as HotBlkDaddy. A search on either of those handles may turn up a matching e-mail address or a profile with more personal information on another site.
  • Obviously it's not just escorts, but a lot of people have been using the same handles for decades now as an alter-ego or online identity. I hired my first escort in the mid-80's from an Advocate Classifieds ad. Quite a few years after he retired I found him in an AOL chat room. To this day his AOL handle is wired into his life. If I search that handle I find him on Facebook, Tumblr, all sorts of Craigslist ads, hundreds of personal pics on Photobucket...

It may seem complicated, but often when I find someone I'm looking for (escort or not) it often takes a few short hops. Here are a few fictionalized examples:

 

A Miami escort calling himself Hugo might have a good head and torso pic on his ad. I perform a Google Image Search and it turns up the same pic in a bodybuilding social media site profile for MaxBeastXMan. One of the comments under his progress pics says "Looking awesome buddy!" from a profile named "ArnoldWheatley". I look up Arnold Wheatley in Miami on Facebook, and scan his FB friends for a guy named Max, and I end up finding Max's personal profile and full name. That's probably five minutes of searching.

 

A phone number search on a supposedly 28 year old LA escort turns up the name Martin Ramirez. There are hundreds of matches on that name in California, but one of the first five hits from a Google search on "Martin Ramirez" "Los Angeles" pulls up a list of MyLife or White Pages directory profiles including a 32 year old Martin Ramirez, along with a list of possible family members. One of the family members is a 56 year old named Xiomara Ramirez. There are only a handful of people with that name on Facebook, and only two in California. One of those Xiomaras turns out to be his mom, and turns up the link to his profile. Five to ten minutes of simple mouse clicks.

 

A phone number search on an escort exposes a comment made on a post on someone's Tumblr. The owner of the Tumblr, ThickRickyPHX may or may not be important. The comment just says "Where u been Ricky - give me a call xxx-xxx-xxxx" from @MarcDaDJspins. A search on MarcDaDJspins turns up a crap ton of ads for Marc's performances as a DJ all over the Phoenix area, including his Instagram, his full name, his girlfriend's name... Ten minutes, maybe more if he's got some hot pictures on his Instagram.

 

Most of this doesn't require that you're "technically adept". When you Google something, you often just need to know which of the search results are worthwhile for the second Google search. The wordiness of my explanation may make this sound more technical than it actually is.

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Information isn't necessarily aggregated as it is scattered. Google and other tools do the aggregation on the fly.

 

The most common links I find are:

 

Phone number:

  • The phone number may link to a directory giving name and address. Some of these directories managed to get ahold of the information provided to the cell provider when the phone was registered. Sometimes even a burn phone can carry some registration information. You aren't required to give a valid name in some instances. For example, when Rocco Steele first started escorting I was able to look up his real name and address by Googling his phone number from his first Rentboy ad. Now if I look up his current ad's phone number using a deeper directory search I only see this phone registered to "Rocco S".
  • Using the same phone number in business postings, or on personal posts or tweets, or classified ads can lead back to other personal information. An escort, for example, was selling a car on a social media group page. His phone number is in one of the responses, as is his real first name. He provided an address to an interested buyer. Even though his phone number itself didn't provide a search back to a directory with his name I was able to quickly turn up his first name and address. Searching on his address might turn up another piece of information. The car sale occurred years ago, but that information will still be available for quite some time.

 

Pictures:

  • Some guys use the same "G" pictures on escort ads and personal social media profiles. Google Image Search will quickly expose their identities in this case. Even if a guy crops his head off of a good body shot the image search may turn up the uncropped picture.

 

Profile names and email addresses:

  • If I used my Nvr2Thick handle as an email address that may also provide a link back to other social media posts where I provided an address. If I set up a gmail or yahoo address with that handle I may have provided my real first and last name when I registered. A search on that handle may pull up personal profile information, depending on how much the provider exposes and how well I've set my privacy settings.
  • If an escort provides an e-mail address it may provide another such link to relevant information if his handle on this site or on Rentmen is different.
  • If an escort is visiting Cleveland, for example, I might get on Adam4Adam or BarebackRT for Cleveland and stumble across (or aggressively search for) his escort and/or personal profiles. An escort may be advertising on one of those sites as Niner4Sale and cruising personally as HotBlkDaddy. A search on either of those handles may turn up a matching e-mail address or a profile with more personal information on another site.
  • Obviously it's not just escorts, but a lot of people have been using the same handles for decades now as an alter-ego or online identity. I hired my first escort in the mid-80's from an Advocate Classifieds ad. Quite a few years after he retired I found him in an AOL chat room. To this day his AOL handle is wired into his life. If I search that handle I find him on Facebook, Tumblr, all sorts of Craigslist ads, hundreds of personal pics on Photobucket...

It may seem complicated, but often when I find someone I'm looking for (escort or not) it often takes a few short hops. Here are a few fictionalized examples:

 

A Miami escort calling himself Hugo might have a good head and torso pic on his ad. I perform a Google Image Search and it turns up the same pic in a bodybuilding social media site profile for MaxBeastXMan. One of the comments under his progress pics says "Looking awesome buddy!" from a profile named "ArnoldWheatley". I look up Arnold Wheatley in Miami on Facebook, and scan his FB friends for a guy named Max, and I end up finding Max's personal profile and full name. That's probably five minutes of searching.

 

A phone number search on a supposedly 28 year old LA escort turns up the name Martin Ramirez. There are hundreds of matches on that name in California, but one of the first five hits from a Google search on "Martin Ramirez" "Los Angeles" pulls up a list of MyLife or White Pages directory profiles including a 32 year old Martin Ramirez, along with a list of possible family members. One of the family members is a 56 year old named Xiomara Ramirez. There are only a handful of people with that name on Facebook, and only two in California. One of those Xiomaras turns out to be his mom, and turns up the link to his profile. Five to ten minutes of simple mouse clicks.

 

A phone number search on an escort exposes a comment made on a post on someone's Tumblr. The owner of the Tumblr, ThickRickyPHX may or may not be important. The comment just says "Where u been Ricky - give me a call xxx-xxx-xxxx" from @MarcDaDJspins. A search on MarcDaDJspins turns up a crap ton of ads for Marc's performances as a DJ all over the Phoenix area, including his Instagram, his full name, his girlfriend's name... Ten minutes, maybe more if he's got some hot pictures on his Instagram.

 

Most of this doesn't require that you're "technically adept". When you Google something, you often just need to know which of the search results are worthwhile for the second Google search. The wordiness of my explanation may make this sound more technical than it actually is.

Wow... Amazing. Thank you for the thorough lesson!

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Information isn't necessarily aggregated as it is scattered. Google and other tools do the aggregation on the fly.

 

The most common links I find are:

 

Phone number:

  • The phone number may link to a directory giving name and address. Some of these directories managed to get ahold of the information provided to the cell provider when the phone was registered. Sometimes even a burn phone can carry some registration information. You aren't required to give a valid name in some instances. For example, when Rocco Steele first started escorting I was able to look up his real name and address by Googling his phone number from his first Rentboy ad. Now if I look up his current ad's phone number using a deeper directory search I only see this phone registered to "Rocco S".
  • Using the same phone number in business postings, or on personal posts or tweets, or classified ads can lead back to other personal information. An escort, for example, was selling a car on a social media group page. His phone number is in one of the responses, as is his real first name. He provided an address to an interested buyer. Even though his phone number itself didn't provide a search back to a directory with his name I was able to quickly turn up his first name and address. Searching on his address might turn up another piece of information. The car sale occurred years ago, but that information will still be available for quite some time.

 

Pictures:

  • Some guys use the same "G" pictures on escort ads and personal social media profiles. Google Image Search will quickly expose their identities in this case. Even if a guy crops his head off of a good body shot the image search may turn up the uncropped picture.

 

Profile names and email addresses:

  • If I used my Nvr2Thick handle as an email address that may also provide a link back to other social media posts where I provided an address. If I set up a gmail or yahoo address with that handle I may have provided my real first and last name when I registered. A search on that handle may pull up personal profile information, depending on how much the provider exposes and how well I've set my privacy settings.
  • If an escort provides an e-mail address it may provide another such link to relevant information if his handle on this site or on Rentmen is different.
  • If an escort is visiting Cleveland, for example, I might get on Adam4Adam or BarebackRT for Cleveland and stumble across (or aggressively search for) his escort and/or personal profiles. An escort may be advertising on one of those sites as Niner4Sale and cruising personally as HotBlkDaddy. A search on either of those handles may turn up a matching e-mail address or a profile with more personal information on another site.
  • Obviously it's not just escorts, but a lot of people have been using the same handles for decades now as an alter-ego or online identity. I hired my first escort in the mid-80's from an Advocate Classifieds ad. Quite a few years after he retired I found him in an AOL chat room. To this day his AOL handle is wired into his life. If I search that handle I find him on Facebook, Tumblr, all sorts of Craigslist ads, hundreds of personal pics on Photobucket...

It may seem complicated, but often when I find someone I'm looking for (escort or not) it often takes a few short hops. Here are a few fictionalized examples:

 

A Miami escort calling himself Hugo might have a good head and torso pic on his ad. I perform a Google Image Search and it turns up the same pic in a bodybuilding social media site profile for MaxBeastXMan. One of the comments under his progress pics says "Looking awesome buddy!" from a profile named "ArnoldWheatley". I look up Arnold Wheatley in Miami on Facebook, and scan his FB friends for a guy named Max, and I end up finding Max's personal profile and full name. That's probably five minutes of searching.

 

A phone number search on a supposedly 28 year old LA escort turns up the name Martin Ramirez. There are hundreds of matches on that name in California, but one of the first five hits from a Google search on "Martin Ramirez" "Los Angeles" pulls up a list of MyLife or White Pages directory profiles including a 32 year old Martin Ramirez, along with a list of possible family members. One of the family members is a 56 year old named Xiomara Ramirez. There are only a handful of people with that name on Facebook, and only two in California. One of those Xiomaras turns out to be his mom, and turns up the link to his profile. Five to ten minutes of simple mouse clicks.

 

A phone number search on an escort exposes a comment made on a post on someone's Tumblr. The owner of the Tumblr, ThickRickyPHX may or may not be important. The comment just says "Where u been Ricky - give me a call xxx-xxx-xxxx" from @MarcDaDJspins. A search on MarcDaDJspins turns up a crap ton of ads for Marc's performances as a DJ all over the Phoenix area, including his Instagram, his full name, his girlfriend's name... Ten minutes, maybe more if he's got some hot pictures on his Instagram.

 

Most of this doesn't require that you're "technically adept". When you Google something, you often just need to know which of the search results are worthwhile for the second Google search. The wordiness of my explanation may make this sound more technical than it actually is.

 

Every escort should read this. Please. Come to think of it every client too. We all need to be responsible and take precautions to protect ourselves.

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Every escort should read this. Please. Come to think of it every client too. We all need to be responsible and take precautions to protect ourselves.

 

Create a separate phone number for your business. Do not affiliate it with your real name. If you use Google Voice, create a separate Google/Gmail account to associate with the voice number. Do not use your real name when creating that Google/Gmail account.

 

The photos you use in your ads should only be used in your ads. Do not allow photos to cross between your ad and your personal social media pages - Facebook, Tumblr, Instagram, Twitter, and even Model Mayhem.

 

Use a separate handle and e-mail account name for your business, and don't register it with your real name. If you have a handle or name you use in your personal life, especially as a social media account name or email address, don't allow it to blur into your business.

 

Your escort persona needs to be a distinct persona if you want to maintain privacy. Give him a name and make sure that all Internet accounts are associated with that name, not your own name. His pictures are not your pictures. His friends are not your friends. This may also help you to disconnect when you retire.

 

There may still be ways for outsiders to make the connection between your business persona and personal life, but these precautions will help to eliminate the most obvious 1-2 step searches.

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We all know what's out there - and sometimes we inadvertently stumble upon something. I wouldn't mention it directly, but if it comes up in conversation he should be cool with it if you admit the truth. Privacy isn't so easy these days, but there are measures that can be taken to avoid these type of situation.

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As an Escort myself. I could say I would be Creeped out. Dont do it.

 

@Jock123 just to clarify. You'd rather nobody tell you that let's say a picture in your escorting profile leads to your personal info, rather then make you aware of it so that you can at least do some damage control and protect your privacy from there on?

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As an Escort myself. I could say I would be Creeped out. Dont do it.

 

@Jock123 just to clarify. You'd rather nobody tell you that let's say a picture in your escorting profile leads to your personal info, rather then make you aware of it so that you can at least do some damage control and protect your privacy from there on?

Hmmm... Something tells me, just a little something, that since @Jock123 as an escort is very protective of his identity here that he would have no such issues about which to worry! Just a hunch!

 

In any event, his reaction confirms my postings above as being the best way to handle things.

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