300-400 now the norm?

[+ Keith30309]

The question made me curious and I did a quick look at all the ads on Rentmen for Atlanta.

 

• There were 42 ads with Incall rates and the average was $211 and median $200. The minimum is $120 and maximum is $300.
   
  
• There were 55 ads with Outcall rates and the average was $235 and median $250. The minimum is $150 and maximum is $300.
   
  
• The average age is 29 (minimum is 18 and maximum is 57) and the median is 27 years old.
   
  
• There wasn't any correlation of rate to age
  
• I didn't grab any other fields on this pass like ethnicity, position, etc., but correlations to these elements may be interesting.
  

I'm not sure what all of this means; perhaps it's more interesting to watch over time to see if there are trends.

 

(*one outlier observation omitted)

 

 

UPDATE: 3 months later (snapshotted today) the Atlanta numbers haven't changed in a statistically-meaningful way- the average incall rate dropped $7 to $204 and outcall up a dollar to $236.

The normal ebb and flow of people doesn't shift the numbers much....

 

Next step - correlate inches to rate.

 

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp_zpsmizflsqj.jpg

[+ MasssageGuy]

Good report... But is this like a car dealer when you have "list" price versus what is the "negotiated" price... How about adding a column and having clients put in price actually paid....

[+ Keith30309]

Good report... But is this like a car dealer when you have "list" price versus what is the "negotiated" price... How about adding a column and having clients put in price actually paid....

 

Actually I thought about somehow incorporating my experience with those Atlanta guys/visitors I've met into this but it wouldn't be statistically meaningful. I've a separate list of everyone I've met everywhere, from the first a couple of years ago up to last week, and the expense with each and assigning a 1-10 score of my perception of the experience. Wholly subjective but interesting. I'm fairly certain there would be no correlation - I've met a $300 meth user and a $150 fireball.

[+ Keith30309]

UPDATE: 3 months later (snapshotted today) the Atlanta numbers haven't changed in a statistically-meaningful way- the average incall rate dropped $7 to $204 and outcall up a dollar to $236.

The normal ebb and flow of people doesn't shift the numbers much....

 

Next step - correlate inches to rate.

 

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp_zpsmizflsqj.jpg

 

Reran the numbers...

 

In summary, from February to October:

• The average incall rate is up to $231, average outcall rate is up to $255 and average blended rate is $246... up about 10%.
  
• Position of "Ask me" saw the largest rate increase - from $163 to $215 though the low number of profiles probably makes that statistically ambiguous. Tops/versatiles/bottoms all went up about the same with bottoms slightly higher.
   
  
• The increase was even across ethnicity's, in/out and visitors/home.
   
  
• For grins I matched rate to size.... the median profile size is 8 inches. For the profiles stating under the 8 inch median the rate is $39/inch; for the profiles of 8 inches or more the rate is $27/inch. I'm not sure any meaningful conclusions can be drawn from this other than a setup for a punchline.
  

This is all of questionable statistical significance because the data is so fluid, with guys coming and going, so I wouldn't tie anything of importance to it.

Edited October 13, 2016 by Keith30309

[dlee02]

Reran the numbers...

 

In summary, from February to October:

• The average incall rate is up to $231, average outcall rate is up to $255 and average blended rate is $246... up about 10%.
  
• Position of "Ask me" saw the largest rate increase - from $163 to $215 though the low number of profiles probably makes that statistically ambiguous. Tops/versatiles/bottoms all went up about the same with bottoms slightly higher.
   
  
• The increase was even across ethnicity's, in/out and visitors/home.
   
  
• For grins I matched rate to size.... the media profile size is 8 inches. For the profiles stating under 8 inches the rate is $39/inch; for the profiles of 8 inches or more the rate is $27/inch. I'm not sure any meaningful conclusions can be drawn from this other than a setup for a punchline.
  

This is all of questionable statistical significance because the data is so fluid, with guys coming and going, so I wouldn't tie anything of importance to it.

All this number crunching is turning me on

[+ Keith30309]

Wanna come over and help me turn $78 into $234?

[dlee02]

• For grins I matched rate to size.... the median profile size is 8 inches. For the profiles stating under the 8 inch median the rate is $39/inch; for the profiles of 8 inches or more the rate is $27/inch. I'm not sure any meaningful conclusions can be drawn from this other than a setup for a punchline.
  

Discount for size queens? That's wonderful news!

 

Wanna come over and help me turn $78 into $234?

Just tell me time and place and I'm there. Excel nerds turn me on so bad...

[builder boy]

And look what some are asking for Overnites and Weekends. 2000-2500 a weekend was the gold standard. 2000-5000 now.

[Brian Kevin]

And look what some are asking for Overnites and Weekends. 2000-2500 a weekend was the gold standard. 2000-5000 now.

 

 

2000k a weekend is acceptable in my eyes shit. I couldn't imagine 5k for a weekend. I mean I guess I could but I'm not greedy, just don't like my toes stepped on is all

[down_to_business]

And look what some are asking for Overnites and Weekends. 2000-2500 a weekend was the gold standard. 2000-5000 now.

 

They can ask whatever they want all they want. All it does is turn me away from their ads and minimizes my hiring. It's too bad, because I would hire a whole lot more often if the rates were reasonable (like once a week instead of the once every three months its becoming). When I do hire, it also prevents me from considering an overnight or a weekend all together. Its too bad also, because I liked hiring for overnights and weekends in the past. My end conclusion is, I would rather do completely without than pay that much. Of course each of us will have make our own decisions.

[builder boy]

I certainly think 2k a weekend is great but look at over nites and weekend rates.

Riley 2k a nite

Vin Marco 2 k plus a nite.

Ryan Steel 2509 a nite

Game Chznger 3 k a nite.

Just to name a few.

[+ Keith30309]

2000k a weekend is acceptable in my eyes shit. I couldn't imagine 5k for a weekend. I mean I guess I could but I'm not greedy, just don't like my toes stepped on is all

You hog the covers. Just sayin....

[Shiloh]

I guess it all depends on your perspective. My friend hired Vin Armani from the Showtime reality series "Gigolos" when we went in February to Vegas, for a 2 hour session. Vin's fees are insane, mostly because he goes through an actual agency, Cowboys4Angels, and approx 40% of the fee goes to his "manager." For two hours she paid $1,000!! I felt bad for her because she was spending so much money, but it's who she wanted.

 

In contrast, I have hired Derek Atlas twice now totaling 14 hours, at $2,000. To get 14 hours with Vin would be $4,500 (and that includes the 'discounted' rate). So I'm not complaining at all.

[nebula]

I certainly think 2k a weekend is great but look at over nites and weekend rates.

Riley 2k a nite

Vin Marco 2 k plus a nite.

Ryan Steel 2509 a nite

Game Chznger 3 k a nite.

Just to name a few.

if clients are willing to pay, the rate is valid. in gamechanger's case, we all know his 3k overnight rate is not a problem at all for @Seaworld. I'm scheduling one with him too. first time I feel I have to do overnight with someone.

[+ sync]

I was recently perusing ads for NYC, and it's pretty definite that rates have now adjusted to $300-$400/hr. in general. Very shortly I shall be celebrating celibacy and solvency.

 

As a side note: For ads that state "ask" or "call for rates," I fall back to the old truism "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."

Edited October 17, 2016 by sync

[CatnameFelix]

UPDATE: 3 months later (snapshotted today) the Atlanta numbers haven't changed in a statistically-meaningful way- the average incall rate dropped $7 to $204 and outcall up a dollar to $236.

The normal ebb and flow of people doesn't shift the numbers much....

 

Next step - correlate inches to rate.

 

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp_zpsmizflsqj.jpg

Wow, if you're a total top, you only have one guy to choose from, but 21 if you're a total bottom. Even counting verse categories, it's more of a bottom's market.

[+ Keith30309]

Wow, if you're a total top, you only have one guy to choose from, but 21 if you're a total bottom. Even counting verse categories, it's more of a bottom's market.

 

That really surprised me as well. And it hasn't changed much - there are only 2 "bottom"'s in RM now.

 

 

As of 10/12/16:

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp2_zpsmqxsnfos.jpg

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp1_zpsznmu66t2.jpg

 

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s511/keith30309/temp3_zpsyevd3xtj.jpg

 

(While the numbers are accurate, this is really all intended to be tongue-in-cheek and not taken terribly seriously.)

[TruthBTold]

I always have to question whether the "versatile/bottom" and "versatile/top" are really what you will be getting for the price you will be paying. Unless you have a VERY explicit conversation about who will be doing what.

[+ Keith30309]

I always have to question whether the "versatile/bottom" and "versatile/top" are really what you will be getting for the price you will be paying. Unless you have a VERY explicit conversation about who will be doing what.

 

Yeah... I think having that conversation you describe is important. I suspect that some people designate themselves as what they truly are (e.g., V/B = I can top but prefer to bottom) and some designate themselves as what they perceive clients want and hope the coin-toss goes their way.

[escortrod]

Yeah... I think having that conversation you describe is important. I suspect that some people designate themselves as what they truly are (e.g., V/B = I can top but prefer to bottom) and some designate themselves as what they perceive clients want and hope the coin-toss goes their way.

Absolutely true, and very frustrating for me. I love topping and bottoming, subbing or domming, and even flipping, so the 'versatile' label on my profile is dead accurate. Sadly I have found in the past that it's more lucrative to advertise as exclusively top or bottom.

[mike carey]

Sadly I have found in the past that it's more lucrative to advertise as exclusively top or bottom.

Speaking theoretically, I suspect that is often the case if potential clients are relying on the stated preference to filter ads, but if they get past that the description can make it clear that versatile means the escort is equally happy both ways. I guess you'd already worked that out, though!

[Meo]

Absolutely true, and very frustrating for me. I love topping and bottoming, subbing or domming, and even flipping, so the 'versatile' label on my profile is dead accurate.

Good to know about you though! Very sexy when a guy says this!

[samhexum]

You hog the covers.

[Merboy]

I'm surprised actually that its not $1,000 an hour. It's much more expensive for straight men and women escorts and the process is more invasive - you have to tell them your employer and everything. You'd think in Manhattan, a very handsome young man with a bangin' body would at least charge $500 an hour. I wish of course this was all legal and taxed. I think for gay men, it should definitely be all legal and into the daylight as long as its consensual. The government has no business knowing what two consensual adults do. Do they go around asking couples that hook up if there was any exchange of money? No. Hiring a man for companionship and intimacy is no concern of the government's. Then you can actually have professional escort agencies with safe, legal websites and go through the process with a legitimate representative.

[adventurous old guy]

Yeah... I think having that conversation you describe is important. I suspect that some people designate themselves as what they truly are (e.g., V/B = I can top but prefer to bottom) and some designate themselves as what they perceive clients want and hope the coin-toss goes their way.

Very true in my experience as well. I'd only add that I think the "versatile" category leans toward preferring to bottom. Wonder also if the "ask me" crowd, which is probably a mixed bag, or even the V/T group have a good number that prefer to bottom but don't want to advertise that.