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I hate to admit this, but i feel 300 plus is too much for me. The guys i usually see are more like 200-250 that I've met a few years ago and who are ok with the "grandfathered" rate. One guy i've been seeing used to charge 200 and now he is on rentmen for 350. I feel for 350, i should be able to buy a nice pair of ferragamos (and those are now 500!). I used to pay for a nice pair of ferragamos for 250 many years ago. I guess it's inflation...

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I always ask potential hires what their fee would be for thee hours including about an hour for lunch or dinner. If it averages out at $200 an hour or less I'm a go if more I'm a pass. We have had near 0 inflation for the last couple of years so I find these increases hard to justify. Now if these guys can get it more glory to them they just won't get it from me.

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The "near zero inflation" is a bogus government statistic designed to make the average person, especially social security recipients accept the lack of wage/benefit increases. If you consider only the cost of things you need/use everyday (food, clothing, housing, insurance, prescription drugs) all have seen a significant increase over the last few years. Things like TV's computers, etc. and oil recently have actually dropped in price which averages out overall inflation to near zero. Inflation is also very regionally sensitive. Any who lives in or around NYC knows that the cost of housing has skyrocketed in the last few years.

 

The escort market is probably one of the most sensitive to supply and demand. If an escort raises his prices, demand will likely drop. However if he can make the same or more money seeing fewer clients, it works for him. If his income drops then a price adjustment may be necessary to increase demand.

 

Given that I am in the NYC area, I am somewhat suspicious of any escort that drops below $300 for the first hour. I have never gone above $300/hr and I do however expect multi-hour discounts somewhere in the 25o for the second hour/200 for the 3rd hour. Are my suspicions warranted?

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Frequently a signal they prefer appts of 2hrs or more. For which the average hourly rate will often be in the 250 range. Or lower, for longer appts.

 

Agree, but there are many who barely, if at all, reduce even at hr 3. Like Epigonos, I prefer longer hires. But many of the NYC/LA guys would not do so, so I limit to 1 or 2 hours or simply pass. I think they are doing themselves in over the long run, but that's their business and they can do what they want. I haven't seen the 400, but I definitely would not be hiring them.

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I just did a quick survey and was very surprised to see that prices seem to have dropped in NYC. The vast majority of escorts that post rates are now under $300 including a couple of very well known names. Right now it looks like those with rates of $300 or higher are well in the minority. I am wondering if this is a delayed "rentboy" effect where skittish clients are just not hiring like they used to.

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Even with all the help from this forum and exhaustive research, a first date with an escort is a crapshoot- it may be great, or it may be "bleh". That being said, I would be unwilling to risk over $300/ hr on a toss of the dice with a new escort. Right now I have two favs who are very different but equally satisfying to fuck. I would love to branch out, but with my limited finances. I don't want to roll snake eyes.

 

When I go to Baskin Robbins, I always consider the "bubblegum, nectarine surprise" or whatever is the flavor of the month, but end up with good, old, delicious rocky road, instead. I do love me some nuts and cream!

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I've paid 300, even 400, and I've paid 150. Once again it bears repeating, price does not necessarily equal quality of services rendered. Many would like you to believe otherwise, but the facts are irrefutable....http://www.boytoy.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/yes.gif

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I'm a little more open on rate not bc I have more to play with, but bc I've come to terms that, to me, what matters is the experience. I've also come to the conclusion that having a few extraordinary guys is far better than gambling on the latest trend. From a companion, I expect quality at any rate, and in return, I expect myself to deliver the same quality back to my companion. Entering on equal terms makes it so much hotter! It just so happens to be that I'm the one who sponsors our time together. To me, rate is indeed a 4 letter word- a buzz kill of sorts. Once you can let go of the "rate" aspect, it frees you up to enter the experience more authentically, and frankly, focus on the joy and pleasure of each other's company. IMHO, That's worth almost any amount. :)

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For Seattle, $200 is good, $250 is average, $300 is OK for something really spectacular, especially with reduced rate on second hour ($250 or less per hour average.) Under $200 is suspect, but not always. I think a 2 hour package deal works out very well for both the client and the escort--basically a win/win. I can see how NYC, LA, SF, DC rates would be higher--especially for traveling escorts who would be paying more for accommodations. Escorts need to determine what kind of marketing works out best for them.

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The "near zero inflation" is a bogus government statistic designed to make the average person, especially social security recipients accept the lack of wage/benefit increases. If you consider only the cost of things you need/use everyday (food, clothing, housing, insurance, prescription drugs) all have seen a significant increase over the last few years. Things like TV's computers, etc. and oil recently have actually dropped in price which averages out overall inflation to near zero. Inflation is also very regionally sensitive. Any who lives in or around NYC knows that the cost of housing has skyrocketed in the last few years.

 

The escort market is probably one of the most sensitive to supply and demand. If an escort raises his prices, demand will likely drop. However if he can make the same or more money seeing fewer clients, it works for him. If his income drops then a price adjustment may be necessary to increase demand.

 

Given that I am in the NYC area, I am somewhat suspicious of any escort that drops below $300 for the first hour. I have never gone above $300/hr and I do however expect multi-hour discounts somewhere in the 25o for the second hour/200 for the 3rd hour. Are my suspicions warranted?

 

What if its a visiting escort from an area where $300 or so isn't the norm?

 

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Greg

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The "near zero inflation" is a bogus government statistic designed to make the average person, especially social security recipients accept the lack of wage/benefit increases. If you consider only the cost of things you need/use everyday (food, clothing, housing, insurance, prescription drugs) all have seen a significant increase over the last few years. Things like TV's computers, etc. and oil recently have actually dropped in price which averages out overall inflation to near zero. Inflation is also very regionally sensitive. Any who lives in or around NYC knows that the cost of housing has skyrocketed in the last few years.

 

The escort market is probably one of the most sensitive to supply and demand. If an escort raises his prices, demand will likely drop. However if he can make the same or more money seeing fewer clients, it works for him. If his income drops then a price adjustment may be necessary to increase demand.

 

Given that I am in the NYC area, I am somewhat suspicious of any escort that drops below $300 for the first hour. I have never gone above $300/hr and I do however expect multi-hour discounts somewhere in the 25o for the second hour/200 for the 3rd hour. Are my suspicions warranted?

 

It isn't a bogus government statistic. It's a fact which, later in your post, you actually confirm. The inflation rate is an average of all consumer goods like housing, gas, products, etc. So while some things have seen an upside many things cost considerably less which is why inflation has stayed so stable. Unlike the late 1970s, when EVERYTHING was going up at the same time. So it's not bogus, not everything is some vast conspiracy to fool you.

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I just did a quick survey and was very surprised to see that prices seem to have dropped in NYC. The vast majority of escorts that post rates are now under $300 including a couple of very well known names. Right now it looks like those with rates of $300 or higher are well in the minority. I am wondering if this is a delayed "rentboy" effect where skittish clients are just not hiring like they used to.

 

It's interesting, that in the weeks after the rent boy thing I found some escorts much more talkative and willing to "deal" and some even contacted me FIRST ... but that has tailed off again as, I suppose, they've found other outlets to advertise. But several expressed the view to me that they had less places to advertise now and were a bit concerned. Not sure how long that will continue.

 

For 300-400, it better be a spectacular mind-blowing experience. 250 has been my acceptable rate for many years and I've seen nothing to cause me to go higher.

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Unlike the late 1970s, when EVERYTHING was going up at the same time. So it's not bogus, not everything is some vast conspiracy to fool you.

Quite so. Here, the ABS (Australian Bureau of Statistics) which produces the consumer price index (CPI ) figures weights the figures according to how often you make whatever purchase they are looking at. They also produce two figure, an underlying rate that deletes volatile items like fresh fruit and vegetables and fuel, and a headline rate that includes them. It also produces an inflation rate that looks at the sort of things that seniors buy. Government pensions here are actually indexed to 25% of average male earnings, not CPI.

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