I will probably regret this

[Mac64]

1.) An overnight with Eisenhower has moved to the top of the "To do" list. 2.) Overnights can be absolutely fantastic with the right person, right connection. Memories of Dane Michaels come to mind, amazingly smooth skin, warm body, great cuddler, ready anytime of night. 3.) This debate is what is great about America. Glad I got to read the review, glad I got to read the response and now I can make my own decision based on how I interpret what each said. A lot of what goes on depends on the individual, both escort and client. I sometimes read the comments and think what a bunch of whiny MFr's, but then realize, it's all valuable info. I have been with Tristan and had a great time, doesn't mean everyone will. I have been with a highly regarded escort from the boards and it was good, but not as great as I anticipated. He did nothing wrong, it was just the connection wasn't what I had built it up to be. Not his fault. The key is if there are things that you know you want, or are looking for, let it be known. I had the awesome pleasure of some time with Dane Scott this weekend in Chicago and although I love the way a man with a beard or scruff looks, being a big fan of kissing, the beard tears up my skin. Dane asked, I let him know, we both were clean shaven and we sucked each others faces off...

 

This board is fantastic. Read the reviews, read the responses, read the commentary and then make your individual decision.

[+ bigjoey]

Dear Xander,

If you have the client base, extended hires are a good way to go.

 

For me, overnights are what I like best. The escort time is more than sex but intimacy, affection, intelligent conversation, etc. I am with Gar1eth on this.

 

As for cell phones, the escort who pulls one out except for an emergency will most likely be off my list. I love doing multiple day and nights with "Ross" (of Maximum fame) as he puts his cell phone away for the days and nights we spend together!! I get his entire attention. That is a class act!

[+ Gar1eth]

A Modest Proposal

 

Escorts do not live in a vacuum and neither do we. Some may have families or other job concerns outside their escorting. I actually may have an occasional life outside of being with an escort. I was once told a niece-in-law was pregnant while I was out on a 'date'. Would I have wanted to miss that information no.

 

In thinking of this- can't there be a happy medium- turn off the phones during eating or events. If you feel you need to check calls or emails if nothing urgent is going on- maybe checking once in the morning/afternoon/evening.

 

We all live in a 24 h/7 day a week world. I don't mind if someone needs to look at messages, make calls unless they seem to be doing it excessively or they seem to be doing it in place of spending time with me.

 

Gman

[instudiocity]

Escorts do not live in a vacuum and neither do we. Some may have families or other job concerns outside their escorting. I actually may have an occasional life outside of being with an escort. I was once told a niece-in-law was pregnant while I was out on a 'date'. Would I have wanted to miss that information no.

 

In thinking of this- can't there be a happy medium- turn off the phones during eating or events. If you feel you need to check calls or emails if nothing urgent is going on- maybe checking once in the morning/afternoon/evening.

 

We all live in a 24 h/7 day a week world. I don't mind if someone needs to look at messages, make calls unless they seem to be doing it excessively or they seem to be doing it in place of spending time with me.

 

Gman

Ahh, Gman, our very on Juan Vancouver has stated multiple times that for extended escort sessions, there should be some time set aside for the escort. I believe Mr. Vancouver stated he negotiates certain hours daily for 'Juan time' during a daily hire. I'd bet he'd recommend pre-planned breaks throughout any extended session.

[operalover21]

Just wait until you spend an overnight with me.

 

That's a level of trouble I'm not sure I should get into! But if you just post like in your avatar, I could gaze at you all night long if there's "moonlight."

[Frequentflier]

You take the phone out of the other person's hand, put it on the floor, stomp on it and then leave.

 

That would get a lot of hits on Youtube

 

I learned a long time ago that a good escort doesn't complain when a client is clear about expectations. Are your pictures current? If not representative, no problem send current ones before we finalize. Are you ok if we both stay off our phones but set aside some time during the session when we can check our phones or step away for a private call? I'm ok if the dates we agreed to need to change from your end as long as its not after I've bought your airline tickets. I had a bad experience and learned from some of the members of this board to do a better job covering the details. Haven't had a problem since.

 

There's probably some protocol about editing a reviewers review but I agree with an earlier comment that its inflammatory to say someone suggesting something unethical. Maybe its possible to edit a comment like that out and if the moderator has the time could run that edit past the reviewer if there's any question about whether its ok to edit any part of the review as submitted. As I mentioned in another thread, that the escorts are generally known (we see their faces and if we've flown them anywhere we know their real names) so I know I'd be sensitive to a comment like that if I was the escort referenced.

 

Have a phenomenal week !

[operalover21]

I can identify with operalover. Political discussions can be minefields. And to my thinking Tristan's "slave" comment was ill-advised.

 

This escort just could not SHUT UP about politics. It went on and on and it was very in your face. Gosh, if I had had a gun I would have blown his freakin' brains out. It drove me crazy. He related EVERYTHING to something political. I can't imagine a more boring type of person to be with. He seemed to go out of his way to argue. I even stopped responding at one point and it didn't really help. He just kept on. Worst experience of my life, by far. I wondered if the guy was still on meth

 

Friendly debate about politics or any subject is fine but there's a point when it gets so over-the-top that it becomes tiresome and unpleasant.

[operalover21]

Dear Xander,

If you have the client base, extended hires are a good way to go.

 

For me, overnights are what I like best. The escort time is more than sex but intimacy, affection, intelligent conversation, etc. I am with Gar1eth on this.

 

As for cell phones, the escort who pulls one out except for an emergency will most likely be off my list. I love doing multiple day and nights with "Ross" (of Maximum fame) as he puts his cell phone away for the days and nights we spend together!! I get his entire attention. That is a class act!

 

You're so right whieh is why I think the number of escorts who can successfully "pull off" a multiple day trip is so few .... it's not just about sex, it's about so much more. I get plenty of sex, I want more which is why overnights or multiple days are what I enjoy best these days.

[operalover21]

This is sort of unrelated but my favorite phone etiquette (or lack thereof) is when you call a business today and give them your name (I always say Mr. So and So) and the first thing they say is "what is your first name?" I always say MISTER. This is another tactic the customer service training fools are doing ... get familiar, on a first name basis, then you're less likely to complain.

 

I must admit I get kinda of cranky about stuff like this (perhaps because all the big things in my life are going well?) ... I also find being "overly engaged" by clerks in stores on my list of pet peeves. I was in Whole Foods the other night buying some stuff for a Lobster Pot Pie I was making ... one of the items was leeks. The checkout girl says "what are these?" Leeks I replied. "What do leeks taste like?" After a long pause and stare I said .... Leeks. She went on like this for around 5 minutes. You know, sometimes you just want to buy your shit and be left the hell enough alone ...

[Xander]

I was in Whole Foods the other night buying some stuff for a Lobster Pot Pie I was making ... one of the items was leeks. The checkout girl says "what are these?" Leeks I replied. "What do leeks taste like?" After a long pause and stare I said .... Leeks. She went on like this for around 5 minutes. You know, sometimes you just want to buy your shit and be left the hell enough alone ...

 

Hahaha good story

[Frequentflier]

This is sort of unrelated but my favorite phone etiquette (or lack thereof) is when you call a business today and give them your name (I always say Mr. So and So) and the first thing they say is "what is your first name?" I always say MISTER. This is another tactic the customer service training fools are doing ... get familiar, on a first name basis, then you're less likely to complain.

 

Couldn't agree more. I was raised to call a stranger Mr/Mrs whatever their last name is unless/until they offer to be addressed by their first name. Or ask them if you can call them by their first name. Not always necessary depending on the circumstances, like two presidents of companies meeting. But customer service reps assuming its ok to call a customer by their first name? Heck no, that's rude. I've always found it charming when I'm traveling in many Southern states how they will call you Mr. whatever and many employees of my company will refer to me (once they've known me for a while) by Mr. my first name. Its charm and manners and doesn't matter how many times I've offered to just be called by my first name, that doesn't last long. I think its a bit like wearing a suit. Many people act better in a suit. Calling someone Mr. shows respect and can contribute to a better interaction. Ok, now those that don't agree can jump all over me

[+ Gar1eth]

Couldn't agree more. I was raised to call a stranger Mr/Mrs whatever their last name is unless/until they offer to be addressed by their first name. Or ask them if you can call them by their first name. Not always necessary depending on the circumstances, like two presidents of companies meeting. But customer service reps assuming its ok to call a customer by their first name? Heck no, that's rude. I've always found it charming when I'm traveling in many Southern states how they will call you Mr. whatever and many employees of my company will refer to me (once they've known me for a while) by Mr. my first name. Its charm and manners and doesn't matter how many times I've offered to just be called by my first name, that doesn't last long. I think its a bit like wearing a suit. Many people act better in a suit. Calling someone Mr. shows respect and can contribute to a better interaction. Ok, now those that don't agree can jump all over me

 

I won't jump. But in general I am so much gladder that we don't have to wear suits as much as they did in the 60's when I was born. I remember before blue jeans became popular having to change into ' after school' clothes to go out and play. It was so much easier and nicer once the blue jean revolution came.

 

Gman

[corndog]

Couldn't agree more. I was raised to call a stranger Mr/Mrs whatever their last name is unless/until they offer to be addressed by their first name.

 

I couldn't agree less. When someone refers to me as "Mr..." I look over my shoulder to see if they're talking to my dad. And then, I regard the speaker disdainfully as if they're trying to convey a false sense of respect.

 

I'm equally annoyed by the tellers at Wells Fargo Bank who seem to be required to ask "How was your weekend?" They're not my friends, and it is none of the g-d d--ned business.

 

There is no need for anyone to treat me with either false respect or false familiarity.

 

I point all this out to demonstrate that we all come from different times and different places. I find it perfectly acceptable to be called by my first name.

[Guest boiworship08]

On an aside -- Some escorts are better suited for short time-frames, some are better for long time-frames. I'm going to be leaving biz this summer for internship/work stuff, but when I return I'm thinking about doing overnights/weekends/travel only. What do you guys think?

 

You appear to be the type of companion who would thrive on those terms. I have done a few weekends, and they've been worth it. Now, however, I experience two thrills when an escort visits: a frisson when they ring the doorbell, and relief when they leave.

[seeker630]

After this summer I won't be needing money ... I don't see the purpose of passing myself around guys for money that I honestly just won't need to survive. I enjoy the time I spend with clients when its longer term (at least an overnight). In my mind, the distinction between a real high-class escort and a regular escort isn't on price, its on duration.

 

I thnk the 'class' of an escort is shown in the quality of the session experience regardless of duration.

 

But it sounds like you're not really into shorter appointments.

[jimboivyo]

Ok, you basically just said that you don't like hourly appointments and they are not the sign of a 'high class' escort.

 

Good to know!

 

jesus, give the kid a break

 

few escorts can maintain long term hires as their mainstay. really only the best can do this and thats what xander strives to become

 

hourly stuff is fine, but it's a timebomb in a lot of ways. the smart guys find a group who will hire them long term and stick with it

[seeker630]

jesus, give the kid a break

 

few escorts can maintain long term hires as their mainstay. really only the best can do this and thats what xander strives to become

 

hourly stuff is fine, but it's a timebomb in a lot of ways. the smart guys find a group who will hire them long term and stick with it

 

I have edited my post, because I realized that it was more confrontational than intended. But as one who doesn't have the opportunity for longer hires, I wouldn't feel comfortable hiring him for a shorter appointment after his remarks.

[sfguy]

I'm confused by the "discounted rate." Neither Tristan nor the client stated what the initial agreed upon total was. The client said after lunch he and Tristan agreed on a fee for the partial visit. Tristan referred to the payment as the total price paid, not as the agreed upon total. It seems that the client probably agreed to more, but received a discounted rate only after the meeting was cut short.

 

Given Tristan's usual rate, I don't buy that Tristan agreed to such a low rate for a day and a half. I find it hard to believe that anyone at all would travel 8 hours for an overnight for such a deeply discounted rate. Yet Tristan uses the price paid (as opposed to the agreed upon price) as justification for his behavior.

 

Additionally, when someone is paying you for your time, you should give them your time. Not doing so is unprofessional and a failure to uphold your end of the agreement. If you don't think that the payment is sufficient for your time, don't agree to the arrangement in the first place. It's as simple as that.

 

Of course, we don't know what happened or what they agreed to, but Tristan's explanation just makes him look worse. There are ways to respond to negative reviews in a professional manner. Trying to garner sympathy because you agreed to a price that you think is too low for your time (which is, after all, what escorts sell) isn't one of them.

[instudiocity]

I couldn't agree less. When someone refers to me as "Mr..." I look over my shoulder to see if they're talking to my dad. And then, I regard the speaker disdainfully as if they're trying to convey a false sense of respect.

 

I'm equally annoyed by the tellers at Wells Fargo Bank who seem to be required to ask "How was your weekend?" They're not my friends, and it is none of the g-d d--ned business.

 

There is no need for anyone to treat me with either false respect or false familiarity.

Ain't dat de truff!!!! Holy crap if another Cuss-some-more Lack O' Service person asks me about my day or uses any other delaying tactics/time fillers that delay the expeditious conclusion of my transaction, I'm gonna scream! A greeting is Hello! or How are you? NOT "HOW'S YOUR DAY GOING SO FAR?" ARGHH!, TIME ISN'T A DISTANCE! TIME IS NEITHER NEAR NOR FAR, YET IT IS FLEETING! SHUT UP AND FINISH MY TRANSACTION SO I CAN GET OUT OF HERE!

 

I DO apologize IF you were offended by my post.

[Rick Munroe]

We were hired by this same client and also traveled by car from Chicago to his hometown of Grand Rapids. (We actually arrived the night before and stayed over at our own expense, so we'd be well-rested for him and ready on time in the morning). It's kind of shocking to see him referred to as controlling and demanding when he's anything but. Sure, he has specific clothing requests, but many clients do (wear a jock, wear tight jeans, don't dress too slutty for my nice hotel lobby, etc). But he's also very accommodating (providing snacks for us that we'd requested, at his suggestion), very low-key and very easy to be with.

 

As far as the cell phone usage, it's sadly what many younger people think is perfectly acceptable to do when having a meal or hanging out with someone. Although, you'd think an escort in his 30s would be mature enough to understand that you just don't do it on the job.

[bomerrang]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

[wayout]

As a newcomer here, this thread is most interesting and informative. I think I will keep my initial (if not all) hiring to hourly appointments.

Thank you one and all.

 

Welcome bomerrang. Hope you have an enjoyable time here in this playground.

[+ poolboy48220]

This is sort of unrelated but my favorite phone etiquette (or lack thereof) is when you call a business today and give them your name (I always say Mr. So and So) and the first thing they say is "what is your first name?" I always say MISTER. This is another tactic the customer service training fools are doing ... get familiar, on a first name basis, then you're less likely to complain.

 

I must admit I get kinda of cranky about stuff like this (perhaps because all the big things in my life are going well?) ... I also find being "overly engaged" by clerks in stores on my list of pet peeves. I was in Whole Foods the other night buying some stuff for a Lobster Pot Pie I was making ... one of the items was leeks. The checkout girl says "what are these?" Leeks I replied. "What do leeks taste like?" After a long pause and stare I said .... Leeks. She went on like this for around 5 minutes. You know, sometimes you just want to buy your shit and be left the hell enough alone ...

Love you man. I haven't found a response indicating my "Just ring up my order, I don't plan on spending all night here" feeling that doesn't make me sound like a peevish old man.

 

I worked with a recruiter a few years ago who consistently called me "Mr." and I did the same with him. I don't know if it was from his military background or what, but I loved it.

[operalover21]

Couldn't agree more. I was raised to call a stranger Mr/Mrs whatever their last name is unless/until they offer to be addressed by their first name. Or ask them if you can call them by their first name. Not always necessary depending on the circumstances, like two presidents of companies meeting. But customer service reps assuming its ok to call a customer by their first name? Heck no, that's rude. I've always found it charming when I'm traveling in many Southern states how they will call you Mr. whatever and many employees of my company will refer to me (once they've known me for a while) by Mr. my first name. Its charm and manners and doesn't matter how many times I've offered to just be called by my first name, that doesn't last long. I think its a bit like wearing a suit. Many people act better in a suit. Calling someone Mr. shows respect and can contribute to a better interaction. Ok, now those that don't agree can jump all over me

 

I'm with you. Life would be so much better if most people acted like they were in a Jane Austen novel

Calling someone you've met by their first name is appropriate, after they've given you PERMISSION to do so. Doing so without gaining that permission is just downright rude and shows a complete lack of class and manners. Who raised these people? Did they all come from trailer parks or the ghetto? They're likely the same people who hold their knife and fork like they're about to attack the food, rather than eating it.

 

There are so many things about the contemporary world I love but, oh, so many nice things that we seem to have lost.

[operalover21]

Love you man. I haven't found a response indicating my "Just ring up my order, I don't plan on spending all night here" feeling that doesn't make me sound like a peevish old man.

 

I worked with a recruiter a few years ago who consistently called me "Mr." and I did the same with him. I don't know if it was from his military background or what, but I loved it.

 

Exactly. It's why I avoided using that particular sentence. I didn't want to go there. Her response was even better. She said "that doesn't really help me." Help her? Seriously? I just looked at her. As I walked away and she said in the most chipper voice possible "have a great day" I could hear her starting the same kind of dialogue with the next couple in line. I realize she's probably bored (and terminally chipper) and all that and normally I don't mind engaging. But I was tired, it was a long day, and I just wanted by damn leeks. Plus, frankly, I thought it a rather dim question.