Yet another warning about deposits

[josh282282]

Hi JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut (and all the other names you have had on this platform in the past- there have been many)

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

I just hope everyone encouraging no deposits, is also willing to be on call with money to give in the event a provider travels to a city with no deposits…and everyone flakes out on their booking. It can and does happen. 

No. I, and my fellow client colleagues,  are not willing to be "on call" with money for you when escorting is not working out financially for you. Although I do NOT wish you or any other escort financial harm, we are not responsible for your solvency.  But to you and all escorts in the world: I'm hopeful you prosper.  You provide a wonderful service to the community.  

 

8 hours ago, JB_Studio38 said:

And with the price of things now, anticipating going up even more: I don’t think a sweeping advice about not providing deposits is exactly conducive to encouraging providers to shoulder the risks and costs of travel and accommodations.

Ah, you are not satisfied with my advice? Allow me to elaborate.  You and I are both business men. Similar fields, albeit with a few differences. I'm a physician.  You are an escort.   We are both seek to ...heal our clients (or patients). As a physician I have high overhead costs in maintaining my office: support staff salaries, my office rent, my exorbitant malpractice premiums, to name a few, costs which rise yearly which is alarming & frustrating.  And just like you, before I take home one dollar, ALL my overhead MUST be paid first. Heck, I was hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical school debt before I even got paid to see my first patient! Yes, I genuinely understand your predicament.  I live it daily.  But when a business informs the client this is my fee, BUT then says, "oh, I also need a deposit", um, yah, no. Or the escort says, "Oh, I need you to pay my Uber". Also a big Nope. See, all of my overhead AND my own salary AND (this is the critical point I fear you dont understand) the cost of the lost revenue is wrapped up in the fee I charge for that office visit.  You think patients call, make an appointment to see me and don't show up? It happens DAILY. Every physician has no-shows. You think patients get a bill (after I provide them medical services) from me and always send a payment? Nope. I get patients who stiff me ALL.THE.TIME.  But that loss is factored IN to my fees.  That's Business.  I don't charge multiple fees.   I have protocols that attempt to minimize loss. For example:  two no-shows and my staff informs the patient they are discharged from the practice.  You think you are the only businessman who takes risks and experiences financial loss?  Think again.   I don't come to this platform and bitch & whine & come across as a lunatic because my patients stiff me.    Rather, I focus on my wonderful patients who stay, pay, and make it all worth while.

To all escorts: keep providing your excellent services. Stay professional.  Continue to hone your craft. Keep detailed reports of what's not working. For what's not working focus on strategies to minimize loss and maximize profit. You are an escort to make MONEY - there is nothing wrong with that! So am I.  But demanding fees (deposits or Ubers) will ultimately turn away good clients & make you seem unprofessional.   Good clients (like me) stay away from escorts like that. Including staying away from JB_Studio38/ Mocha/Jarrod_uncut. Asking for a fee makes you look sketchy.  Its a bad look. 

Love to all,

Josh

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by josh282282
Grammer

[Nue2thegame]

I won’t do deposits. Never have. But, on a few occasions I have “loaned” relatively small amounts to providers that I’ve already seen before who have had the sort of life crises described above. Before I do, I always ask myself how I’ll feel if I never see it again. So far, no one has made an attempt to repay but I have subsequently been the beneficiary of more time, special treatment, access at unusual times and other perks that leave me feeling that it was worthwhile. I try to look at the big picture and there are many ways to build a relationship. Deposits, for me curtail that opportunity. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Nue2thegame

[+ PhileasFogg]

24 minutes ago, Nue2thegame said:

I won’t do deposits. Never have. But, on a few occasions I have “loaned” relatively small amounts to providers that I’ve already seen before who have had the sort of life crises described above. Before I do, I always ask myself how I’ll feel if I never see it again. So far, no one has made an attempt to repay but I have subsequently been the beneficiary of more time, special treatment, access at unusual times and other perks that leave me feeling that it was worthwhile. I try to look at the big picture and there are many ways to build a relationship. Deposits, for me curtail that opportunity. 

I agree with that approach.   But sometimes, the circumstances become so arcane with broken trust that "more time, special treatment, and access" are meaningless.   I'm not sharing space with someone I can't trust.

 

[+ purplekow]

My feeling about deposits.  If the escort asks, I either say yes or no.  I say yes to a small deposit to cover the cost of travel to my location if the escort has good reviews or a personal recommendation from a client.  I say no otherwise.   I have guidelines not rules and I utilize those guidelines when it comes to a deposit.   To whom am I giving it?  Is the amount reasonable considering the service?  Am I willing to write off the money without anger,  if he does not show?  How cooperative has the escort been in other arrangements?  

They can ask.  I can say yes or no.  For me, there really is no other discussion needed on this topic.

[+ Jamie21]

I’ve asked for deposits twice. In 8 years of working and many many clients (4 figures). In my early years I had a few out calls that were wild goose chases. The kind where the client is all keen etc until you reach their place and then they ‘disappear’. Now I’m wiser and I can see the red flags and avoid these time wasters. 

Both occasions I asked for a deposit were 4 hands sessions where the other provider was travelling and I wasn’t confident the client was legitimate (but I was sufficiently confident to accept the booking). I can accept the time wasted if my judgement was wrong but I’d feel really bad to get the other provider into a flaky client situation, hence I asked for the deposit. Both times the client paid the deposit no trouble, and turned up, so all was good.

Like @josh282282says, I just factor the cost of the occasional flake into my pricing and I do as much as possible to mitigate against the time wasters. It’s just sensible good practice to do this. It’s easier to adjust yourself to the world than it is to rail against the world because it won’t behave as you want it to.