*Serial stalker harassment from client

[pubic_assistance]

Going back to the subject of serial stalkers. I feel very bad for  @Daniel84. It's a very traumatic experience to have run into a psycho like that. 
HOWEVER 

Let's do a reality check.

WHENEVER you run a business that deals with the general public, you ARE at risk of running into a psycho. Whether you are selling ice cream or selling your ass, the risk is the same(ish). There are a few really crazy, unhappy psychos out there who get their jollies out of pissing on people ( and I don't mean golden showers )...so you need to strategize a layer of protection between you and the psycho. Now, Danny is not selling fried chicken at KFC in a poor neighborhood, so bullet-proof glass isn't an option. He is selling INTIMACY. So he is meeting complete strangers in a private setting that puts him at RISK when he encounters the occasional angry nut-job. The delicate balance of what to do IS somewhere between all the complications of navigating the perception of PRIVACY that people desire, who hire and the consideration that a sex-worker may want to NOT allow that person to have complete anonymity. I completely agree with @BOZO T CLOWN. The strategy of asking for a deposit is going to cut into your client base. I am NOT paying a deposit and that's because TOO MANY providers ( I didn't say "ALL") are con-artists. There are more con-artists stealing your deposit than there are psycho clients who plan to kill you and eat you. 

@purplekow has the best advice. Meet in a PUBLIC place BEFORE you go let him fuck you in the ass, or vice/versa.  As @MakeMeCowboy points out, THIS gives you a minute to look for those crazy-eyes.  If you can't spot "crazy-eyes", @Daniel84, then you are in the wrong business. 

In spite of what some people may say...there are FAR TO MANY ( notice I didn't say "all") providers who use deposits as a scam. So THAT is NOT an answer to the problem. 

TRUST is the issue here and TRUST works both ways to TRUST is what you are marketing and TRUST is what you NEED from your customers. If you can't spot a person who is inconsiderate of your humanity enough to trust them, then deposits aren't going to help you. 
 

Find a way to analyze your customers that doesn't cut in to their realm of privacy and doesn't cut into your bottom line ( deposits ) 

@FrankR gave GOOD advice: "Eventually they will get bored and move on" ( to another victim ). FEAR is what they are trying to illicit, so don't give them what they want. Stay ABOVE the nonsense, don't be affected at all. These types of people who are suffering from a degree of mental illness are typically jealous and can't stand to see a young, handsome man succeed as a provider, because they are an ugly troll who is so repugnant of personality that even a PAID companion will reject them. They are sad, pathetic and ANGRY about their situation. Do not fear them, because they have no strength but to TRY and use fear as strength. They are afraid themselves as they can't find anyone to want them. Most aren't actually going to harm you, they are only going to try and make you afraid of being yourself, going about your business and providing joy for men who have a little extra money and are craving your kindness and your plump little butt. 

You go about your business, and be selective about the types of conversations that illicit TRUST for YOU...and as @purplekow mentioned, bring some protection for when you miscalculate. ( and I don't mean a condom ). 

Good luck. You've GOT this !!  

 

 

 

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[Daniel84]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Going back to the subject of serial stalkers. I feel very bad for  @Daniel84. It's a very traumatic experience to have run into a psycho like that. 
HOWEVER 

Let's do a reality check.

WHENEVER you run a business that deals with the general public, you ARE at risk of running into a psycho. Whether you are selling ice cream or selling your ass, the risk is the same(ish). There are a few really crazy, unhappy psychos out there who get their jollies out of pissing on people ( and I don't mean golden showers )...so you need to strategize a layer of protection between you and the psycho. Now, Danny is not selling fried chicken at KFC in a poor neighborhood, so bullet-proof glass isn't an option. He is selling INTIMACY. So he is meeting complete strangers in a private setting that puts him at RISK when he encounters the occasional angry nut-job. The delicate balance of what to do IS somewhere between all the complications of navigating the perception of PRIVACY that people desire, who hire and the consideration that a sex-worker may want to NOT allow that person to have complete anonymity. I completely agree with @BOZO T CLOWN. The strategy of asking for a deposit is going to cut into your client base. I am NOT paying a deposit and that's because TOO MANY providers ( I didn't say "ALL") are con-artists. There are more con-artists stealing your deposit than there are psycho clients who plan to kill you and eat you. 

@purplekow has the best advice. Meet in a PUBLIC place BEFORE you go let him fuck you in the ass, or vice/versa.  As @MakeMeCowboy points out, THIS gives you a minute to look for those crazy-eyes.  If you can't spot "crazy-eyes", @Daniel84, then you are in the wrong business. 

In spite of what some people may say...there are FAR TO MANY ( notice I didn't say "all") providers who use deposits as a scam. So THAT is NOT an answer to the problem. 

TRUST is the issue here and TRUST works both ways to TRUST is what you are marketing and TRUST is what you NEED from your customers. If you can't spot a person who is inconsiderate of your humanity enough to trust them, then deposits aren't going to help you. 
 

Find a way to analyze your customers that doesn't cut in to their realm of privacy and doesn't cut into your bottom line ( deposits ) 

@FrankR gave GOOD advice: "Eventually they will get bored and move on" ( to another victim ). FEAR is what they are trying to illicit, so don't give them what they want. Stay ABOVE the nonsense, don't be affected at all. These types of people who are suffering from a degree of mental illness are typically jealous and can't stand to see a young, handsome man succeed as a provider, because they are an ugly troll who is so repugnant of personality that even a PAID companion will reject them. They are sad, pathetic and ANGRY about their situation. Do not fear them, because they have no strength but to TRY and use fear as strength. They are afraid themselves as they can't find anyone to want them. Most aren't actually going to harm you, they are only going to try and make you afraid of being yourself, going about your business and providing joy for men who have a little extra money and are craving your kindness and your plump little butt. 

You go about your business, and be selective about the types of conversations that illicit TRUST for YOU...and as @purplekow mentioned, bring some protection for when you miscalculate. ( and I don't mean a condom ). 

Good luck. You've GOT this !!  

 

 

 

I know the warning signs. The crazy thing is I never met this client. He made a fake appointment where I went to a hotel and then ever since then he’s been calling me harassing me. I have blocked 10 numbers already.

He keeps talking about hiring a girl like I have no idea what the fuck this guy’s talking about

 

[Daniel84]

On 2/8/2026 at 4:33 AM, BoyGeorgeandMarilyn said:

It may happen when you do that for a living

What do you mean? I provider service for clients so I should deal with psychopaths and dangerous people? 

[Daniel84]

23 hours ago, LookingAround said:

Blame the victim?

Like i said I never met him or them. They made a fake appointment where I went to the hotel and then they called me laughing that I wasted my time since then they’re trying to make fake appointments and calling me from different numbers and have left voicemails. 

[wsc]

I'm sorry you're having to go through this, I really am. 

A few questions, if I may: Does he know your real name? Does he know where you live? Since you have your pic on the website, he obviously knows your face, but you don't know his, right? Can you recognize his voice? I ask these to make a kind of threat assessment. He's obviously an irritant but is he really a credible threat to your safety? He's also an obvious looney, but is he truly dangerous? Has he made actual threats against your life or safety? BTW - if that's a yes, see the police. Making threats is a crime and you have the right to be protected and to get the satisfaction a prosecution might provide.

If not, he's just a pest. An extremely annoying pest, to be sure, and one that can make you feel unsettled. But still, just a pest.

I get a dozen calls a week from people trying to loan me money or buy some land from me (I no longer own any land, so they don't know much about me). Some want to me to change insurance (life, medical, auto - you name it.) Like your tormentor, they call from different numbers so blocking can only go so far.

These are modern nuisances. If you have a phone, they'll find you. I used to get angry about it but then realized it's about as useful as yelling at raindrops, So I now accept it as part of life as it has become and don't answer a call unless I recognize the caller. If not, I'll delete the messages and go about my day. It's like taking out the trash; just another chore. 

If your threat assessment can see him as merely an irritant, ignore him. Go about your life and do not engage with the loon. Your nonresponse may drive him up a wall and you can smile at that thought. Eventually he'll tire and fade away.

A favorite quite is from Alfred North Whitehead, an English mathematician and philosopher. He said: "That which we call progress is frequently nothing more than the exchange of one nuisance for another."

Treat him as a nuisance and move on, knowing living well is the best revenge. Best wishes always.

 

[soloyo215]

On 2/8/2026 at 12:50 PM, Daniel84 said:

I agree, the guy is probably high or something and T can make people crazy and irrational. I just won’t feed energy or feed fire. I’ll just ignore him and soon another piece of meat will come in days eyesight.

I wish I was in Boston. I'd hire you just to give you a hug. I'm so sorry you're going through this. Some of the side discussions in this thread relate to your main topic, but unfortunately some don't. Hopefully you still feel the support that you need.

I agree about ignoring that person. I know it's easier said than done, but I'm glad it hasn't cause you any further harm.

[LookingAround]

1 hour ago, Daniel84 said:

Like i said I never met him or them. They made a fake appointment where I went to the hotel and then they called me laughing that I wasted my time since then they’re trying to make fake appointments and calling me from different numbers and have left voicemails. 

Terrible. This is obviously a disturbed and evil person. I hope they get arrested for this behavior. 
Ive hired you at least twice and know you to be a terrific person. You don't deserve this. Stay strong. 

[Daniel84]

I am now getting death threats from him. I might go to police 

[Nue2thegame]

2 minutes ago, Daniel84 said:

I am now getting death threats from him. I might go to police 

Yes, if you are receiving death threats it’s time to alert law enforcement. He’s clearly crossed a boundary. 

[BuckCanucked]

If there has been no physical interaction and the numbers are Google Voice or similar, the only time police in an area like DC will do any sleuthing (eg, track the number to a gmail address) is sadly after you've been harmed. 

His messages are odd. My money is on mental illness, closeted guilt,  teens, or all three. 

Turn off voicemail, restrict interactions to RM app and text, and watch them get frustrated faster and end it.

Modest deposits will reduce bookings but will restrict encounters to clients confident in their purpose for booking, not nervous noobs or idiots like these who have graduated from calling in fake pizza orders for their neighbors.

You can always indicate that depositis are unneccessary for regulars and referrals and then lift them completely once you have your mojo back.

I'm not making light of your situation, but understand that they graduated from pictures of poop to death threats in pretty short order. That screams attention seeker, not imminent threat. 

 

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[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, Daniel84 said:

I am now getting death threats from him. I might go to police 

do you think he might be reading this? 

[Daniel84]

I think i need to delete this thread. I was concerned maybe he could be reading these post

[Simon Suraci]

2 minutes ago, Daniel84 said:

I think i need to delete this thread. I was concerned maybe he could be reading these post

One of my stalkers absolutely reads these topics. Showing him I am fully aware of him and that I am not afraid to expose his shenanigans has helped keep him at bay. That may not work for everyone though. I would take multiple approaches.

[Daniel84]

On 2/8/2026 at 9:53 PM, 7829V said:

I just want to know more. Also, I was harassed by @Daniel84 and his partner at the time years ago after I shared my experience on this forum when I hired his partner. They kept texting and calling me nonstop, so I blocked their numbers. Daddy (RIP) noticed what was going on and gave me some private advice.

Honestly, I’m not sure how things would’ve gone if they had known my address. But ignoring them and blocking their numbers worked for me 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

I think you might be mistaken, and you might be mixing me up with somebody else because  I have no idea what you are talking about. The only occurrence that I can possibly think is your rent men ad was “Dick therapy” that you’re an escort that has booked myself, my husband and friends of mine and have not paid after the services were rendered. 
 

Please enlighten me to when this happened with proof. 
 

 

[Daniel84]

28 minutes ago, Daniel84 said:

I think you might be mistaken, and you might be mixing me up with somebody else because  I have no idea what you are talking about. The only occurrence that I can possibly think is your rent men ad was “Dick therapy” that you’re an escort that has booked myself, my husband and friends of mine and have not paid after the services were rendered. 
 

Please enlighten me to when this happened with proof. 
 

 

Okay, let’s do a simple search on this form. The only interaction I’ve had with this person was about a thread in San Diego where he was complaining that Carlos was charging too much for his services.

 

I don’t have your number, and I never had it. I’ve never called you. I have no way of knowing how to contact you if your problem is with Carlos. That’s between you and him, not me. Before you slander or make false accusations, you should know the facts. 

One last thing, if I was harassing you and you had to block me from contacting you, why didn’t you block me on this website when I was vocal and everyone knew who I was and my ad? My last point is that you’re based in San Diego. When was the last time I was in San Diego? I know when I was in San Diego because I have all the text messages from every single client who texted me while I was there. 

 

 

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