Biggest controversy of my lifetime...new Cracker Barrel logo

[+ ApexNomad]

3 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Modern society does its best to foster an environment that benefits the majority.

The minority cannot always be provided for when they insist on upsetting the majority as part of their perceived "rights'.

Cracker Barrel doesnt NEED to have a gay inclusive section on their web page to be able to serve you a plate of meatloaf and mashed potatoes . The majority of their customers truly dont care if you sucked your boyfriend's cock last night as long as you dont feel the need to tell their kids about it. 

You’re actually making two different arguments and trying to collapse them into one.

Conditional tolerance: Nobody cares, as long as you don’t make it uncomfortable. That’s not acceptance; it’s a demand for silence. Civil rights aren’t contingent on the majority’s comfort.

Corporate marketing: Whether Cracker Barrel chooses inclusive messaging is a business choice, but pretending visibility = forcing kids to hear about sex is a false equivalence. Representation isn’t obscenity.

Conflating those points lets you minimize real harm while painting equality as provocation. That’s not logic, it’s sleight of hand. Which you do repeatedly.

[borgerback]

1 minute ago, ApexNomad said:

Conflating those points lets you minimize real harm while painting equality as provocation. That’s not logic, it’s sleight of hand. Which you do repeatedly.

I'm not sure I'm clear on the 'real harm' that's being done.  

It seems to me that for many on this thread, 'toleration' must equal 'celebration' or at a minimum, vocal (and frequent) expressions of approval.  

Further, why should I care at all about a particular corporate entity's 'position' on my sexual preferences or practices?  How does it affect the quality of the product?

Now if a corporation HAS a position, and I decide I want to support (or boycott) the company BECAUSE of such position, that's fine.  But I don't need a company to TAKE a position in order for me to decide if I'm going to give them my patronage; I need to know if I want or enjoy what they are selling.  

[pubic_assistance]

2 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

Representation isn’t obscenity.

OK..I am using an extreme example to make a point. I give you that.

BUT..as you said...its a business decision. And their recent explosion of negative customer response to their woke-ism has negatively impacted their business. So if they go back to a more simple Waltons Style marketing and forget about the rainbow flag attempts at bringing in gay customers. so be it. 

I eat there and I couldn't possibly care less if the CEO accepts my homosexual activity. Just get my food to the table and smile at me when you do it. 

[+ ApexNomad]

4 minutes ago, borgerback said:

I'm not sure I'm clear on the 'real harm' that's being done.  

It seems to me that for many on this thread, 'toleration' must equal 'celebration' or at a minimum, vocal (and frequent) expressions of approval.  

Further, why should I care at all about a particular corporate entity's 'position' on my sexual preferences or practices?  How does it affect the quality of the product?

Now if a corporation HAS a position, and I decide I want to support (or boycott) the company BECAUSE of such position, that's fine.  But I don't need a company to TAKE a position in order for me to decide if I'm going to give them my patronage; I need to know if I want or enjoy what they are selling.  

The harm I’m referring to comes when toleration is defined as silence and invisibility. That framing has been weaponized into legislation: banning books, restricting medical care, silencing teachers, and targeting speech. It’s not about needing celebration, it’s about ensuring equality isn’t quietly eroded under the guise of protecting someone else’s comfort.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

3 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

I do call attention to the dangerous direction a company like CB takes when they capitulate to customers calling for homogeneity, inequity, and exclusion. Their support of such policies bolsters institutions that DO take more extreme leaps.

The only "dangerous direction" was the direction that Cracker Barrel was barreling towards (pun intended) when it succumbed to the woke mobs and instituted undemocratic and unfair hiring/promotion practices. If you REALLY want to ensure equity and inclusion, what CB did was a good start. First, it kept it's longtime, popular logo. Second, It followed the lead of dozens and dozens of other large companies. It scrapped its racist and sexist DEI webpage, and hopefully scrapped it from its corporate policies. Thankfully, CB seemingly has stopped catering to the whims of every special interest group, and will now get back to basics - making quality southern food  while providing a down-home, country atmosphere.
By taking these steps now, CB probably dodged a bullet. It avoided another Bud Light catastrophe.

BTC
🤡
 

Edited September 1 by BOZO T CLOWN

[+ ApexNomad]

5 minutes ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

The only "dangerous direction" was the direction that Cracker Barrel was barreling towards (pun intended) when it succumbed to the woke mobs and instituted undemocratic and unfair hiring/promotion practices. If you REALLY want to ensure equity and inclusion, what CB did was a good start. First, it kept it's longtime, popular logo. Second, It followed the lead of dozens and dozens of other large companies. It scrapped its racist and sexist DEI webpage, and hopefully scrapped it from its corporate policies. Thankfully, CB seemingly has stopped catering to the whims of every special interest group, and will now get back to basics - making quality southern food  while providing a down-home, country atmosphere. By taking these steps now, they have avoided another Bud Light catastrophe.

BTC
🤡
 

If they really want to get back to basics, maybe start by serving food that doesn’t taste like it’s been sitting since the 1970s.

 

[borgerback]

I will say, when I'm in an area with both, I vastly prefer Waffle House . . . 

[+ ApexNomad]

4 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

Spot on @pubic_assistance!
And the fake victimhood and fear mongering displayed in the truly bizarre, unhinged rant in a previous post, which disparaged the mindset and motives of loyal, patriotic Cracker Barrel customers with lies, distortions, and fake projections is beyond tiresome.
It's time for a new playbook. The script they've been reading from for 40 years is old and boring.

BTC
🤡
 

Calling inclusion fake victimhood while raging about a restaurant webpage is the kind of irony you don’t even need face paint to see.

 

[pubic_assistance]

3 minutes ago, borgerback said:

I vastly prefer Waffle House

In all these years of travel in the South, I've only ever had breakfast at Waffle House. Didn't even occur to me to eat dinner there ! Cracker Barrel adding beer and wine to their menu in 2020 was something that I considered a BIG improvement. Although the quality of the food has definitely been wavering. More corporate cost cutting ( for more profit sharing ) no doubt.

 

[pubic_assistance]

5 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

Calling inclusion fake victimhood

What @BOZO T CLOWN and myself are saying is that you don't NEED to be told you're special to have inclusion at a restaurant.

There WAS a time when the leadership at Cracker Barrel WAS openly homophobic. But that was many years ago. 

They obviously and awkwardly attempted to do a mea-culpa but those efforts didn't pay off. Nobody is going to Waffle House for drag story hour.

They are going for nostalgia, boring American style food and generous sized drinks. That's it. 

The fact that anyone would think they are being homophobic because they finally took down their pride page IS "fake victimhood". 

[Cooper]

Administrator’s Message

Gentlemen, Please stay on topic and keep politics out of this discussion. Several replies have already been removed. Help us out by reporting a potential violation. Moderators can be reached in the Ask A Moderator Forum. Thanks. 🙏 

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

On 8/28/2025 at 11:41 PM, BuffaloKyle said:

Another logo that was considered:

And another edgy logo that the Cracker Barrel BOD may consider..... But ONLY if/when they open up new franchises in: WeHo, Boys Town. the Tenderloin Dsitrict, Chelsea, and Wilton Manors:

BTC
🤡

 

[+ ApexNomad]

9 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

What @BOZO T CLOWN and myself are saying is that you don't NEED to be told you're special to have inclusion at a restaurant.

There WAS a time when the leadership at Cracker Barrel WAS openly homophobic. But that was many years ago. 

They obviously and awkwardly attempted to do a mea-culpa but those efforts didn't pay off. Nobody is going to Waffle House for drag story hour.

They are going for nostalgia, boring American style food and generous sized drinks. That's it. 

The fact that anyone would think they are being homophobic because they finally took down their pride page IS "fake victimhood". 

I get what you’re saying, I do. But inclusion isn’t about being told you’re special; it’s about being told you’re welcome. Those are not the same thing.

Go to Cracker Barrel for nostalgia and meatloaf if you want; no one’s stopping you. But let’s not pretend erasing inclusion messaging is neutral. For those of us who’ve actually lived through exclusion, the message it sends is loud and clear. Just ask the trans folks you’ve already advised everyone here to steer clear of.

[pubic_assistance]

57 minutes ago, ApexNomad said:

equality feels like loss when you’ve grown too used to privilege.

Ugh. Again with the "privilege" b.s.

You people are insufferable with your whining about inequality. Its a fucking RESTAURANT that sells NOSTALGIA.

LGBTQXYZ is NOT part of anyone's fond memories in backwater Tennessee .  Give it a break. Theres NO reason a redneck family can't sit down to a meal of fried chicken and tater-tots without someone lecturing them on Lesbian transgender equality. THEY DON'T CARE. They also don't have any plans to steal your human rights unless you keep trying to indoctrinate their children.

[+ MikeThomas]

I've been avoiding weighing in, but I've had a glass of wine.  I get peoples' historical reaction to CB and I can appreciate that people might be concerned about CB getting rid of "affinity groups."  But here is their current "Culture & Belonging" page from their website.  It looks pretty inclusive to me...

Here's what we're all about.

★ In It Together

Our teams are built on real relationships and mutual respect. Together, we create a culture of belonging where everyone feels supported and appreciated.

★ Thrive Your Way

The skills you'll learn and the people you'll meet will help you get from where you are to where you want to be.

★ You Make The Moment

Bring your warmth and authenticity to create memorable moments – the goodness of country hospitality starts with you.

We're In It Together

It's not just work, it's working together. From day one you'll feel welcomed and supported.

★ We've got each other's backs. Pleasing people is a team sport – we pitch in and get it done together.

★ We are part of each other's stories. Working side by side builds connections that last well beyond the workday.

★ Development of our leaders and team members to ensure our culture is grounded in mutual respect and teamwork.

[+ ApexNomad]

37 minutes ago, MikeThomas said:

I've been avoiding weighing in, but I've had a glass of wine.  I get peoples' historical reaction to CB and I can appreciate that people might be concerned about CB getting rid of "affinity groups."  But here is their current "Culture & Belonging" page from their website.  It looks pretty inclusive to me...

 

 

 

Here's what we're all about.

★ In It Together

Our teams are built on real relationships and mutual respect. Together, we create a culture of belonging where everyone feels supported and appreciated.

★ Thrive Your Way

The skills you'll learn and the people you'll meet will help you get from where you are to where you want to be.

★ You Make The Moment

Bring your warmth and authenticity to create memorable moments – the goodness of country hospitality starts with you.

We're In It Together

It's not just work, it's working together. From day one you'll feel welcomed and supported.

★ We've got each other's backs. Pleasing people is a team sport – we pitch in and get it done together.

★ We are part of each other's stories. Working side by side builds connections that last well beyond the workday.

★ Development of our leaders and team members to ensure our culture is grounded in mutual respect and teamwork.

The Nazis marketed Volksgemeinschaft (“the people’s community”) with the same kind of soft slogans: “Together we are strong,” “The common good before the individual good,” “Equal rights for all citizens.” It read like a belonging page too until you saw the fine print that Jews, Roma, disabled people, and gay people were excluded. A pretty webpage doesn’t mean much if the reality tells a different story. But sure, it probably does pair nicely with a glass of wine.

[+ ApexNomad]

42 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Ugh. Again with the "privilege" b.s.

You people are insufferable with your whining about inequality. Its a fucking RESTAURANT that sells NOSTALGIA.

LGBTQXYZ is NOT part of anyone's fond memories in backwater Tennessee .  Give it a break. Theres NO reason a redneck family can't sit down to a meal of fried chicken and tater-tots without someone lecturing them on Lesbian transgender equality. THEY DON'T CARE. They also don't have any plans to steal your human rights unless you keep trying to indoctrinate their children.

The only fear-mongering here isn’t about fried chicken, it’s the invented panic over indoctrination. Wanting a restaurant to be welcoming is not indoctrination, it’s basic respect. Enjoy the biscuits and peg game.

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, ApexNomad said:

The Nazis

Jeezus. First you try with the "privelege" nonsense.

Now you're conjuring Nazis ?? 🙄🙄🙄

Anything else from the victim playbook, you'd like to add ?

It's a fucking RESTAURANT dude. 

[+ ApexNomad]

5 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Jeezus. First you try with the "privelege" nonsense.

Now you're conjuring Nazis ?? 🙄🙄🙄

Anything else from the victim playbook, you'd like to add ?

It's a fucking RESTAURANT dude. 

Cracker Barrel serves hashbrown casserole, not indoctrination. You’re the only one trying to add that to the menu.