Providers requiring Client photo to meet!?

[+ KensingtonHomo]

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

 biological imbalance? What about acknowledging lifestyle also matters and assuming responsibility.

Just one pill / injection can't solve most health issues

"Eat less, move more" that's the right thing to do, isn't it? 

 

Did you read what he posted? No, it’s not just eat less; move more. It’s actually very difficult for people who lose significant amounts of weight to keep it off because evolution has primed us to retain fat. 

[Archangel]

36 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Did you read what he posted? No, it’s not just eat less; move more. It’s actually very difficult for people who lose significant amounts of weight to keep it off because evolution has primed us to retain fat. 

Just don’t engage him. Say your piece and move on. 

[mike carey]

So, back to discussing providers asking clients for a photograph, and whether clients should respond to such requests, or indeed whether clients might send a photograph without being asked.

[marylander1940]

9 hours ago, Archangel said:

Just don’t engage him. Say your piece and move on. 

Peace not piece!

 

[mike carey]

He meant 'piece'. He certainly didn't mean 'peace'.

say one's piece

give one's opinion or make a prepared statement.

"I've said my piece, it's up to you"

[pubic_assistance]

It seems to me that if obese clients would hire equally obese providers  then the provider is far less likely to demand a photo, since their own standards are already low. 

How many old/overweight people seek the company of young/fit/attractive people vs. other overweight people ? 

How many providers can hold their nose and fuck anythjng that moves vs. those who have some line-in-the-sand about a clients appearance ? 🤔

As I get older and out-of-shape, the number of young/hot men who will fuck me for free will diminish. I accept that fact. Even though MY looks will diminish, my taste for handsome/athletic men will not change. So if I need to navigate some gatekeeping to get what I want, so be it. 

Even at my peak there was no guarantee that everyone I wanted, wanted me in return. I dont expect the offer of $300 to $400 will always tip the scale with an Instagram model if I were seriously ugly. 

The solution here to avoid providers rejecting you, is to stay in your lane even when you hire. 

[d.anders]

On 7/9/2025 at 5:56 PM, pubic_assistance said:

I live in Greenwich Village which has several gay bars and I don't see a lot of big oversized men going in and out of those bars.

Sorry, I somehow missed this.

Greenwich Village has gone through incredible change since the 1970's. I don't know the actual numbers, but the gay scene left it long ago. Most gays were priced out. So many male residents died. On weekends in the 70's and 80's, Christopher Street would be packed, especially down by West St. Wall-to-wall gay men, and hundreds of them overweight, wearing jeans or chaps. Residents today are not going to see anything remotely resembling that.

If Greenwich Village is your current life, I would argue you are not likely to see obese gay guys milling about. 1 or 2 may still be there, but I doubt even that.

I used to be a member of a popular gay social events club, long before Covid. There were plenty of fellow members who would qualify as obese. New York City has everything, and that's one of the things I like about living here.

I've had my share of overweight gay friends. I still have a few. Many of them were married before it was legal. One guy was perpetually horny. He was not much of a looker, but he had a great personality. He was never slender, but he had no problem finding a husband or finding sex with hot guys. Many of his lovers were Latin.

[+ ApexNomad]

58 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

It seems to me that if obese clients would hire equally obese providers  then the provider is far less likely to demand a photo, since their own standards are already low. 

How many old/overweight people seek the company of young/fit/attractive people vs. other overweight people ? 

How many providers can hold their nose and fuck anythjng that moves vs. those who have some line-in-the-sand about a clients appearance ? 🤔

As I get older and out-of-shape, the number of young/hot men who will fuck me for free will diminish. I accept that fact. Even though MY looks will diminish, my taste for handsome/athletic men will not change. So if I need to navigate some gatekeeping to get what I want, so be it. 

Even at my peak there was no guarantee that everyone I wanted, wanted me in return. I dont expect the offer of $300 to $400 will always tip the scale with an Instagram model if I were seriously ugly. 

The solution here to avoid providers rejecting you, is to stay in your lane even when you hire. 

You’ve described yourself as bi, a former wrestler, good-looking, with thousands of partners. If that’s true, then this isn’t coming from someone who’s been excluded—it’s coming from someone who’s had access and power in the sexual world. Which makes this all the more disappointing.

Because what you’re doing here isn’t realism. It’s fear disguised as wisdom. It’s the voice of someone terrified of losing the privilege they once had, trying to rationalize their decline by projecting shame onto everyone else.

And let’s be clear: telling people to “stay in their lane” based on their looks is cruel. Reducing attraction to a merit-based economy where age and weight disqualify you from even hoping for chemistry with someone hotter? That’s not honest. That’s just bitter.

What strikes me most—especially since this isn’t the first time you’ve posted something like this—is how obsessed you are with whether providers would consider sex with larger men. It’s oddly clinical, like you’re trying to quantify desire. But this isn’t economics or evolutionary theory—it’s projection. You’re not describing a system. You’re describing your own fear of becoming unwanted and trying to universalize it so you’re not alone in that fear.

You’re not just naming your own insecurity—you’re codifying it into a worldview. One where people who already feel undesirable are told they should be. That their standards are delusional. That they don’t deserve what they want. It’s elitism with a self-pity twist.

What’s saddest to watch is that instead of meeting rejection with empathy—for yourself or for others—you’re passing it forward. You could offer understanding. Instead, you close the door on others behind you.

[Archangel]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

The solution here to avoid providers rejecting you, is to stay in your lane even when you hire. 

Do you hear yourself? You cannot actually mean what you say, can you?

[marylander1940]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

You’ve described yourself as bi, a former wrestler, good-looking, with thousands of partners. If that’s true, then this isn’t coming from someone who’s been excluded—it’s coming from someone who’s had access and power in the sexual world. Which makes this all the more disappointing.

Because what you’re doing here isn’t realism. It’s fear disguised as wisdom. It’s the voice of someone terrified of losing the privilege they once had, trying to rationalize their decline by projecting shame onto everyone else.

And let’s be clear: telling people to “stay in their lane” based on their looks is cruel. Reducing attraction to a merit-based economy where age and weight disqualify you from even hoping for chemistry with someone hotter? That’s not honest. That’s just bitter.

What strikes me most—especially since this isn’t the first time you’ve posted something like this—is how obsessed you are with whether providers would consider sex with larger men. It’s oddly clinical, like you’re trying to quantify desire. But this isn’t economics or evolutionary theory—it’s projection. You’re not describing a system. You’re describing your own fear of becoming unwanted and trying to universalize it so you’re not alone in that fear.

You’re not just naming your own insecurity—you’re codifying it into a worldview. One where people who already feel undesirable are told they should be. That their standards are delusional. That they don’t deserve what they want. It’s elitism with a self-pity twist.

What’s saddest to watch is that instead of meeting rejection with empathy—for yourself or for others—you’re passing it forward. You could offer understanding. Instead, you close the door on others behind you.

@pubic_assistance has been consistent over the years in his opinions, experiences, lifestyle, profession, etc. I can't say the same about other frequent posters!

I fully trust what he shares about his personal life to be reliable! 

[+ ApexNomad]

45 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

@pubic_assistance has been consistent over the years in his opinions, experiences, lifestyle, profession, etc. I can't say the same about other frequent posters!

I fully trust what he shares about his personal life to be reliable! 

I agree—he’s been consistently and reliably cruel.

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

You’re describing your own fear of becoming unwanted and trying to universalize it so you’re not alone in that fear.

Well...no. 

I am ACCEPTING the fact that the privilege I've enjoyed for many years is slipping away as I age.

I don't fear that. I choose to work around it. I fail to see your logic in declaring an embrace of life's realities is a matter of ME being cruel. Life can be cruel. Life often IS cruel. You speak of people "deserving what they want"...well I want a 10 inch dick and my ripped six pak back. I want to look like I did when I was 30 and I want a Ferrari. That kind of mentality is a sure-fired way to be unhappy. You don't "deserve" anything but what's obtainable. I don't go to a seafood restaurant and order a steak. The same way you shouldn't hit up an Instagram model and expect him to not reject you for being 300 pounds, old and ugly. Embrace reality. stay in your lane and you wont be disappointed. 

[mike carey]

Thank you lines-people, thank you ball-kids, we're done with this topic, at least for now, thank you for playing.

I had said my piece earlier, but not as a warning. For the last couple of pages we've been talking at or past each other, and discussing pet issues people have that may or may not impact on whether or why escorts ask for photos. We don't need some of the acrimony.