+ sniper Posted May 18 Posted May 18 Well there's the spousal Social Security benefit(you can collect a benefit equal to half your spouses if they are collecting, even if you're only 18), plus the savings on income taxes being married to someone with zero income. caliguy 1
caliguy Posted May 18 Posted May 18 On 5/16/2025 at 7:38 PM, Ali Gator said: Camelot, as we know it, is now officially dead. Multi-billionaire David Geffen is back on the market, at the age of 82. Which means so is his husband of 23 months, former 'go-go dancer' Donovan Michaels (David Armstrong), 32. Geffen filed for divorce today, citing 'irreconcilable differences'. The couple married with no pre-nup, but California laws seem to be on Geffen's side. David Geffen Files for Divorce, No Prenup WWW.TMZ.COM Entertainment mogul David Geffen has filed for divorce, to end his less-than-2-year marriage. CA law is basically a 50/50 split. However, the assets that Geffen made before the marriage is apparently off the table and he's been retired for 15 years. I think the boy toy will still be set up really nice and probably won't have to work his money maker for the rest of his life at any rate.
Rod Hagen Posted May 19 Posted May 19 On 5/17/2025 at 4:37 AM, nycman said: I feel a song coming on….. That was an awful awful awful dreadful shit song. Please don't ever do that again. Goddam, my earholes. TonyDown 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 19 Posted May 19 On 5/18/2025 at 1:24 PM, caliguy said: I think the boy toy will still be set up really nice and probably won't have to work his money maker for the rest of his life at any rate. I hope that's the case. They both knew what they were getting into. Geffen knows what it takes to get out. Now, this guy can do what he wants on his own terms. caliguy 1
d.anders Posted May 20 Posted May 20 16 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Now, this guy can do what he wants on his own terms. There must be a certain joy and feeling of accomplishment that comes from that. No regrets. To acquire that feeling in only two years of work is close to a miracle, and all while living "the life." Most self-employed people require decades of hard work and sacrifice before they can experience life "on their own terms," if that even happens. + BenjaminNicholas and caliguy 2
caliguy Posted May 20 Posted May 20 (edited) 23 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: Now, this guy can do what he wants on his own terms. "Armstrong will get spousal support, but only for 1 year. Under Cali law, the receiving spouse gets spousal support for 1/2 the length of the marriage. " Billionaire David Geffen Files For Divorce From Randy Blue Gay Porn Star Brandon Foster (a.k.a. Donovan Michaels) | STR8UPGAYPORN STR8UPGAYPORN.COM Not really sure that will be a gold mine for him. Still those 6 months worth will probably be worth more then most of us make in 5 years. Edited May 20 by caliguy
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 20 Posted May 20 1 minute ago, caliguy said: "Armstrong will get spousal support, but only for 1 year. Under Cali law, the receiving spouse gets spousal support for 1/2 the length of the marriage. " Billionaire David Geffen Files For Divorce From Randy Blue Gay Porn Star Brandon Foster (a.k.a. Donovan Michaels) | STR8UPGAYPORN STR8UPGAYPORN.COM Not really sure that will be a gold mine for him. Still those 6 months worth will probably be worth more then most of us make in 5 years. First, a gay porn website isn't savvy enough to break down the minutiae of this divorce. Geffen will pay him a lump sum to ensure he keeps quiet. This guy will never need to work again, if he's smart. caliguy and MikeBiDude 2
caliguy Posted May 20 Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, BenjaminNicholas said: First, a gay porn website isn't savvy enough to break down the minutiae of this divorce. Geffen will pay him a lump sum to ensure he keeps quiet. This guy will never need to work again, if he's smart. I know of a Big time Hollywood Director and his Porn Star BF. After about 2 years or so he got tired of him as they do. Well, the Porn Star wasn't an idiot or at least his Lawyer wasn't and got himself set up too. They weren't even married so yeah I imagine there's more to it. + BenjaminNicholas 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 20 Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, caliguy said: I know of a Big time Hollywood Director and his Porn Star BF. After about 2 years or so he got tired of him as they do. Well, the Porn Star wasn't an idiot or at least his Lawyer wasn't and got himself set up too. They weren't even married so yeah I imagine there's more to it. 'Don't get angry... GET EVERYTHING' MikeBiDude, caliguy and BSR 1 2
+ nycman Posted May 20 Posted May 20 David is known to be kind and generous. The young man has nothing to worry about. Trust me. caliguy 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 20 Posted May 20 3 minutes ago, nycman said: David is known to be kind and generous. The young man has nothing to worry about. Trust me. Can confirm. His big 'white house' parties were back in my early 20s, but I always remember how generous and congenial he was with his many guests. MikeThomas 1
maninsoma Posted May 21 Posted May 21 On 5/18/2025 at 11:22 AM, sniper said: Well there's the spousal Social Security benefit(you can collect a benefit equal to half your spouses if they are collecting, even if you're only 18), plus the savings on income taxes being married to someone with zero income. This guy is too young and wasn't married to Geffen long enough to claim Social Security benefits.
+ sniper Posted May 21 Posted May 21 12 hours ago, maninsoma said: This guy is too young and wasn't married to Geffen long enough to claim Social Security benefits. While you are still married you can collect. He can't keep collecting post-divorce and wasn't married long enough to collect on his ex-husband's record when older. But I'm saying while married he was probably getting around $20k in SS benefits, plus Geffen was saving money on his income taxes because of the wider brackets. Now Geffen is the kind of rich that's a rounding error to him, but the SS plus tax savings can offset much of the cost of a boytoy for the merely affluent.
maninsoma Posted May 21 Posted May 21 2 hours ago, sniper said: While you are still married you can collect. He can't keep collecting post-divorce and wasn't married long enough to collect on his ex-husband's record when older. But I'm saying while married he was probably getting around $20k in SS benefits, plus Geffen was saving money on his income taxes because of the wider brackets. Now Geffen is the kind of rich that's a rounding error to him, but the SS plus tax savings can offset much of the cost of a boytoy for the merely affluent. I'm pretty sure that a spouse under 62 can only collect social security spousal benefits if they are caring for a child under 16 or a child with a disability. Lotus-eater 1
Ali Gator Posted May 22 Author Posted May 22 Bottom line: Armstrong is going to walk out much more wealthier than when he walked in. He's in his early 30s - let's hope he employs a savvy money manager to help him invest. + BenjaminNicholas, maninsoma and + nycman 2 1
Luv2play Posted May 23 Posted May 23 An article in the NYT today indicated that Armstrong wasn’t going to get as much as had been first thought but also that it was likely to be an amicable split. So no doubt he will be well set up for his next adventure and Geffen wouldn’t be losing any significant portion of his assets.
TonyDown Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Did anyone read the book Going Down in La La Land? That had a sugar daddy character that some claim was allegedly based on Geffen. Just thinking about Armstrong's prospects, he might look into a book deal, unless he signed an NDA. caliguy 1
+ FrankR Posted May 23 Posted May 23 5 hours ago, TonyDown said: Did anyone read the book Going Down in La La Land? That had a sugar daddy character that some claim was allegedly based on Geffen. Just thinking about Armstrong's prospects, he might look into a book deal, unless he signed an NDA. I think I will wait for the movie! 😋
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Ugh. If I had that kind of money, I'd just go the houseboy route. Full salary and health insurance during employment. And like every other job in America, employment at will. Incentive enough to act affectionate. Getting legally married absolutely doesn't guarantee an "emotional connection", nor does it enhance the illusion of one. Re: Anna Nicole Smith. + Vegas_Millennial 1
maninsoma Posted May 23 Posted May 23 1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said: Ugh. If I had that kind of money, I'd just go the houseboy route. Full salary and health insurance during employment. And like every other job in America, employment at will. Incentive enough to act affectionate. Getting legally married absolutely doesn't guarantee an "emotional connection", nor does it enhance the illusion of one. Re: Anna Nicole Smith. I wouldn't even go that route as it seems to present different legal problems since sexual harassment of an employee is illegal and it isn't legal in California to hire someone to provide sexual services on demand. MikeThomas, pubic_assistance and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 1
maninsoma Posted May 23 Posted May 23 10 hours ago, TonyDown said: Did anyone read the book Going Down in La La Land? That had a sugar daddy character that some claim was allegedly based on Geffen. Just thinking about Armstrong's prospects, he might look into a book deal, unless he signed an NDA. Even without an NDA, if Geffen treated him well while they were together and is appropriately generous now that they are separating, hopefully the guy just leaves the details of his relationship with Geffen between them. No reason to harbor ill will or treat someone callously who treated you nicely. I understand that some might have the view that Geffen couldn't possibly have treated the guy nicely because he was using his position of wealth to get sex with a much younger man, but unless there's coercion involved I don't judge either party who wants to get involved in that kind of relationship. If I did, I wouldn't be a frequent visitor to this forum. MikeThomas and + BenjaminNicholas 1 1
caliguy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) 12 hours ago, TonyDown said: Did anyone read the book Going Down in La La Land? That had a sugar daddy character that some claim was allegedly based on Geffen. Just thinking about Armstrong's prospects, he might look into a book deal, unless he signed an NDA. He also had a relationship with Joey Stefano. His first high profile pornstar relationship. Edited May 23 by caliguy
caliguy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 (edited) 6 hours ago, FrankR said: I think I will wait for the movie! 😋 Edited May 23 by caliguy
TonyDown Posted May 23 Posted May 23 2 hours ago, maninsoma said: Even without an NDA, if Geffen treated him well while they were together and is appropriately generous now that they are separating, hopefully the guy just leaves the details of his relationship with Geffen between them. No reason to harbor ill will or treat someone callously who treated you nicely. I understand that some might have the view that Geffen couldn't possibly have treated the guy nicely because he was using his position of wealth to get sex with a much younger man, but unless there's coercion involved I don't judge either party who wants to get involved in that kind of relationship. If I did, I wouldn't be a frequent visitor to this forum. Yeah, writing a book probably means having something sensational to say. But overall is this thread really claiming Geffen treated Armstrong poorly? I don't see that.
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 23 Posted May 23 6 hours ago, maninsoma said: I wouldn't even go that route as it seems to present different legal problems since sexual harassment of an employee is illegal and it isn't legal in California to hire someone to provide sexual services on demand. Sage advice here. Not every state is at-will employment and in many states, employing someone opens you up to a LOT more litigation.
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