+ haring222 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 On 4/8/2025 at 2:21 PM, ApexNomad said: Hilarious? I didn’t find it hilarious at all. In fact, in my opinion, it comes across as having a lot of disgust and contempt for the client. The tone feels emotionally detached, as if the situation is more about judgment than understanding. It paints a bleak picture of something repetitive and dehumanizing. It’s the kind of response from a provider that would make a skeptical client pause and rethink their choice to hire. If it ever gets that awful, then stop seeing the client. I appreciate the feedback....it made me hop back and reread my post and see it from your perspective. You nailed it, I am totally detached from the time I spent with that fellow; almost 30 years have passed since I last saw him and I can't come up with anything good to say about him. I was escorting when I was in my early 20s. There are some things I wish that I could go back and change about myself, and I wish that I could go back and give myself a healthy dose of advice about how your perspective as a person changes as you age. For Chicago standards, I did really well as an escort...and I think it was because I actually cared about 95% of the guys I saw. And I was one of the few who was sort of smart, had a nice dick, and always flawlessly on time. 🙂 I can count on one hand the number of guys that really made me feel crummy about what I was doing and this chap was literally the only one that I kept seeing over and over. Sex with any person, even if there is money involved, is a really personal activity. He was one of the few clients that totally made me feel like a human dildo. Looking back, I think I was just too immature to just tell him I did not want to see him anymore. Financially, he was also one of the few guys that I knew who literally had a standing appointment and always turned up for it, even if he was generally early and annoying. It also made me take a minute and pull out the box of day planners I still have from back then. One of the pieces of advice I carried forward from my dad was to keep a meticulous diary; flipping past them I can remember the majority of the guys that fill the pages, even if most of the college coursework notes mean nothing to me. I hope that nearly all of the guys I saw enjoyed their time with me. There is still one page that I come back to over and over from December of 1999. The appointment was for 8PM at the Four Seasons and was a referral from this odd pimp fellow that I knew; I walked in, the fellow had me drop trou and just stand there. Bright lighting, agonizingly long time, did not want me to touch myself, weird....and then he just told me to go home. The pimp told me later that my package was not big enough for him and he was upset that I did not get hard for him....still angry about that mischaracterization. + Jamie21, Bokomaru and moonlight 1 1 1
jackcali Posted April 15 Posted April 15 19 hours ago, haring222 said: There is still one page that I come back to over and over from December of 1999. The appointment was for 8PM at the Four Seasons and was a referral from this odd pimp fellow that I knew; I walked in, the fellow had me drop trou and just stand there. Bright lighting, agonizingly long time, did not want me to touch myself, weird....and then he just told me to go home. The pimp told me later that my package was not big enough for him and he was upset that I did not get hard for him....still angry about that mischaracterization. Thank you for this story and the earlier one. It's enlightening to hear about your bad client interactions, which the passing of decades (and being out of the business) allows you to share. When I feel that I'm a boring or disappointing or ugly client, I take heart that I am very respectful and mannerly and don't insult or degrade escorts in any way. In fact, it astounds me that clients (other than fetishists) would. I'll hold my head a little higher the next time I see an escort. + DrownedBoy 1
JTtorretto Posted April 18 Posted April 18 On 4/9/2025 at 6:00 AM, BaronArtz said: That is how I feel about my regular masseurs. I book ahead of time, I show up on time, always freshly showered with a pleasant and upbeat attitude. I do tip well although not extravagantly I am not in the greatest shape anymore but no one has commented on that. I do send a text afterwards thanking them. I do regularly have lunch with my favorite guy, off the clock, Some of the guys told me they are glad to have me in their life. If I am a widget to them, I don't feel it. But then, who really knows? I have had my share of rote performers but if that happens there is no second appointment with them. It is a rare occurrence though. As others have mentioned, I do stay away from 'popular' guys and from travelers. They tend to pack in as many appointments as they can in any given day, possibly causing the quality of the service to suffer. Im mostly a “travaler” type escort but I only see one client a day. Its always comical for me to repeatedly read on this message board that the widely held belief is that most escorts are seeing MULTIPLE clients a day! I dont understand how any escort (unless working for an escort agency) can manage the logistics of multiple bookings in a single day. + Vegas_Millennial 1
BaronArtz Posted April 18 Posted April 18 5 hours ago, JTtorretto said: Im mostly a “travaler” type escort but I only see one client a day. Its always comical for me to repeatedly read on this message board that the widely held belief is that most escorts are seeing MULTIPLE clients a day! I dont understand how any escort (unless working for an escort agency) can manage the logistics of multiple bookings in a single day. Glad to read that you care about the quality of the encounter and see only one client a day. I live in NYC. Providers who travel here have very high costs - lodging and food alone can be several hundred dollars a day. With an average fee of $300, let's say, you would be losing money or barely break even, Unless if you charge a very high fee or only see one client for multiple hours per day, I don't see how you can make it. One masseur/escort who posts very frequently on this forum stated several times that he sees 6-8 clients per day when he travels. When I asked him about it, he said that most of his appointments are for massage and maybe 1-2 for escort service. From a client perspective, I don't find that very appealing I must say. If one client per day works for you, congratulations!
Whippoorwill Posted April 19 Posted April 19 I hire mostly for erotic massage and have a small group of regulars I patronize. I arrive on time, neither early nor late, and leave within 15 minutes of the end of my appointment. I not only assume there may be a client before and after me, I hope there is...I want my boys to be busy and financially successful because I value them and want them to stay in the business. It doesn't make me feel like a widget at all. When I'm paying by time, it's the same whether it is my GP, my CPA, or my masseur/escort, I'm paying for their time and it's of no concern of mine what they are doing outside of that time. + DrownedBoy 1
+ ApexNomad Posted April 20 Posted April 20 On 4/18/2025 at 1:59 AM, JTtorretto said: Im mostly a “travaler” type escort but I only see one client a day. Its always comical for me to repeatedly read on this message board that the widely held belief is that most escorts are seeing MULTIPLE clients a day! I dont understand how any escort (unless working for an escort agency) can manage the logistics of multiple bookings in a single day. It’s not uncommon for providers to have multiple clients per day. I’ve been one of those multiple clients in a day. And it showed. (I mostly hire in the evening.) For me, it’s about the quality of each encounter that would be a concern.
+ Jamie21 Posted April 20 Posted April 20 There’s comfort and assurance in the familiar that some clients like. I have a regular who has I feel has trained me to deliver what he wants, or needs. In that sense, I feel like the widget. He’s clearly had some issues when he was younger, and that has influenced how he thinks about sex and how he can satisfy himself. The session is like a role play of what happened. I’ve tried to vary things, introduce different elements, explore and be less formulaic (which most clients like) but this guy wants the same scenario played over again, including specific words I use, positions and wearing the same clothing etc. He brings me back to it if I move away because nothing else works for him. I recognise what @haring222 says about taking the client because he’s reliable and regular but also resenting him because of the dynamics of the session. I really want to say to that client that he needs a therapists help rather than a session with me. I help him get off but I don’t think I’m helping him move on or to just have fun. Seeing clients usually leaves me feeling great but occasionally there’s those that drain you, literally and figuratively. Those kind of sessions you end up treating the client like a widget, yet they still come back. moonlight, MikeBiDude and + DrownedBoy 2 1
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