Clients who almost exclusively seek straight providers.

[studchaser]

If you fall into this category I am curious why? What are the oros and cons? Post your ho to guys in your city.

 

I find the clients in this category are in a different world than those that aren't. 

[KeepItReal]

54 minutes ago, studchaser said:

 Post your ho to guys in your city.

Hell no! Go find your own ho's!! 

Edited February 19 by KeepItReal

[+ ApexNomad]

55 minutes ago, studchaser said:

If you fall into this category I am curious why? What are the oros and cons? Post your ho to guys in your city.

 

I find the clients in this category are in a different world than those that aren't. 

Why? I believe there are psychological and fantasy-driven elements as to why some clients seek out “straight” providers. 

There’s a perception (whether accurate or not) that straight men embody a more traditional, unfiltered masculinity. Some clients may see that as more attractive or dominant.

There’s the taboo factor. The idea of “turning” a straight guy, or at least being desirable enough to make him cross a boundary, is a common fantasy. It plays into power dynamics and the thrill of the forbidden.

There’s the ego boost and validation. Some clients may feel more validated if they can attract or seduce a straight man, as if it confirms their own desirability.

I would surmise that for some clients, straight providers may bring a different vibe compared to openly gay providers, sometimes less performative or more detached, which can be appealing to certain clients. (Though I’ve had a few “gay” providers that were equally detached.)

Clients who seek out straight providers may also do so to prevent any potential for emotional connection. 

[+ sync]

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

Why? 

 

 

1 hour ago, ApexNomad said:

 

Clients who seek out straight providers may also do so to prevent any potential for emotional connection. 

That is an interesting and credible take I've never before considered.

[whatdoidowiththisagain]

I'm one of them! I enjoy tasting of the forbidden fruit lol. My first sexual encounter was in highschool with an upperclassmen who was kind of a bully. His girlfriend wouldn't have sex with him enough and refused to give head. He lived in my apartment complex and one summer i saw him a lot at the apartment swimming pool. I guess he saw me peeking at his bulge all the time and he knew i  was gay. Late one afternoon when the pool was empty he jumped in with me and casually grabbed my hand and placed it on his dick under the water. He invited me to a sleepover that night and man he used my mouth all night. 

And thus began my love affair with straight men who treated me like the slut that i am

[Danny-Darko]

6 hours ago, studchaser said:

 

 

I find the clients in this category are in a different world than those that aren't. 

For decades now since Jeff Styker and maybe even before, Gay4Pay men have been the top selling porn stars. A gay man that says he hasn't fantasied ever in his life about a hot pop idol or movie star is lying (and yes some celebs are closeted, but most are straight as far as we know). Who didn't have crushes on the straight guys in school when we started to become sexually aware? Who hasn't wondered about a hot guy at work in a sexual way? Transvestites pride themselves on being able to pick up "straight men" too! I've never seen or heard of one going out with a flaming queen. I could go on and on with examples. Yet for some reason to admit to this reality isn't politically correct in the "all-inclusive and embracing" LGBTQ+ "community". Yes, there are some men that enjoy soft, passive and even effeminate men, and nothing wrong with that. But to asume or suggest that we that prefer our men "straight" are in a different world or category is fooling themselves. And yes, maybe some of us actually do fetishize straight men more than others do. But if you think about it, it's almost normal and natural for a homosexual to be attracted to masculinity and manliness and most things about men. And most men out there in the world are straight/heterosexual and to different degrees. Us homosexuals/gays are a minority no matter how visible we now are. And finally, if most gay men who hire weren't attracted to straight men, why would so many escorts lie about it or even state that they are straight or bi on their profiles as a marketing ploy? Just some food for thought. We all like what we like even if different than what the next guy likes!

Edited February 20 by Danny-Darko

[SirBillybob]

My first and foremost seeking criterion is looks, via ads or real-life presence with multiple selection options, not stratified by orientation. It so happens that the vast majority of my hires, for most of which orientation is eventually discoverable, are heterosexual. Obviously that will shape expectancies going forward. It seems more akin to shooting fish in the barrel as opposed to scraping it. I don’t need to analyze it.

However, of my current top five hire “crushes” one is apparently homosexual yet not the most functionally performative among them and is the least inclined to cum, though that’s not a deal breaker. His orientation was ambiguous when for a few years prior I viewed his socials. I wouldn’t have a problem if all were gay and I imagine when viewing ads culminating in hookups that each one could be gay. My lifetime inclination to occasional crushes where sexual interaction occurs has spanned the orientation spectrum, though when unrequited in some cases I’m not hot enough and other cases not hot woman enough.  

Edited February 20 by SirBillybob

[studchaser]

On 2/19/2025 at 3:24 PM, KeepItReal said:

Hell no! Go find your own ho's!! 

Lol i meant go to ha ha. I dunno if i can change it .Who is yours?

[studchaser]

23 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

Why? I believe there are psychological and fantasy-driven elements as to why some clients seek out “straight” providers. 

There’s a perception (whether accurate or not) that straight men embody a more traditional, unfiltered masculinity. Some clients may see that as more attractive or dominant.

There’s the taboo factor. The idea of “turning” a straight guy, or at least being desirable enough to make him cross a boundary, is a common fantasy. It plays into power dynamics and the thrill of the forbidden.

There’s the ego boost and validation. Some clients may feel more validated if they can attract or seduce a straight man, as if it confirms their own desirability.

I would surmise that for some clients, straight providers may bring a different vibe compared to openly gay providers, sometimes less performative or more detached, which can be appealing to certain clients. (Though I’ve had a few “gay” providers that were equally detached.)

Clients who seek out straight providers may also do so to prevent any potential for emotional connection. 

I love this detailed well thought reply. This was phd level introspection. Who are your go to guys? Recent or past.

[studchaser]

21 hours ago, sync said:

 

 

That is an interesting and credible take I've never before considered.

I have heard this argument put forth for women who keep falling for gay men. Most gay clients are rarely seeking an emotional connection and the omes that are are tend to be delusional.

[studchaser]

21 hours ago, whatdoidowiththisagain said:

I'm one of them! I enjoy tasting of the forbidden fruit lol. My first sexual encounter was in highschool with an upperclassmen who was kind of a bully. His girlfriend wouldn't have sex with him enough and refused to give head. He lived in my apartment complex and one summer i saw him a lot at the apartment swimming pool. I guess he saw me peeking at his bulge all the time and he knew i  was gay. Late one afternoon when the pool was empty he jumped in with me and casually grabbed my hand and placed it on his dick under the water. He invited me to a sleepover that night and man he used my mouth all night. 

And thus began my love affair with straight men who treated me like the slut that i am

How authentic is this story? Its giving Mudge Boy vibes lol  Who are your go to guys?

[studchaser]

21 hours ago, Danny-Darko said:

For decades now since Jeff Styker and maybe even before, Gay4Pay men have been the top selling porn stars. A gay man that says he hasn't fantasied ever in his life about a hot pop idol or movie star is lying (and yes some celebs are closeted, but most are straight as far as we know). Who didn't have crushes on the straight guys in school when we started to become sexually aware? Who hasn't wondered about a hot guy at work in a sexual way? Transvestites pride themselves on being able to pick up "straight men" too! I've never seen or heard of one going out with a flaming queen. I could go on and on with examples. Yet for some reason to admit to this reality isn't politically correct in the "all-inclusive and embracing" LGBTQ+ "community". Yes, there are some men that enjoy soft, passive and even effeminate men, and nothing wrong with that. But to asume or suggest that we that prefer our men "straight" are in a different world or category is fooling themselves. And yes, maybe some of us actually do fetishize straight men more than others do. But if you think about it, it's almost normal and natural for a homosexual to be attracted to masculinity and manliness and most things about men. And most men out there in the world are straight/heterosexual and to different degrees. Us homosexuals/gays are a minority no matter how visible we now are. And finally, if most gay men who hire weren't attracted to straight men, why would so many escorts lie about it or even state that they are straight or bi on their profiles as a marketing ploy? Just some food for thought. We all like what we like even if different than what the next guy likes!

Love this Donny!!! I guess gay male clients who  exclusively  or mostly hire straight men may be a unique subset. I find once you cross into that dark side you cant go back. If you have met a strapping marine who needs money to pay for his wedding you cant go back to the pageantry of the wanna be guys playing dress up.  Who are your go tos Donnie?

Edited February 21 by studchaser

[+ sync]

10 minutes ago, studchaser said:

I have heard this argument put forth for women who keep falling for gay men. Most gay clients are rarely seeking an emotional connection and the omes that are are tend to be delusional.

Your view waxes sexist along with over-generalizing, but you are certainly entitled to it.

[GTMike]

45 minutes ago, studchaser said:

Love this Donnie!!! I guess gay male clients who  exclusively  or mostly hire straight men may be a unique subset. I find once you cross into that dark side you cant go back. If you have met a strapping marine who needs money to pay for his wedding you cant go back to the pageantry of the wanna be guys playing dress up.  Who are your go tos Donnie?

Would love to hear/see who are yours or some that you know of!  

[studchaser]

3 hours ago, sync said:

Your view waxes sexist along with over-generalizing, but you are certainly entitled to it.

Im gonna break down what I said into three parts

 

1. I have heard the argument put forth that women seek out gay men either knowingly or subconciously if they are scared of emotional connection or rejection. Is this the first time you have heard that theory?

 

2. Most gay men hiring an escort or paying for time are often not looking for an emotional connection with those prospects. Is that a novel thought?

 

3. Expecting an emotional connection in a pay for hire relationship should not be expected. Do you or have you ever expected to run off into the sunset with a guy you hired?

[Oakman]

On 2/19/2025 at 1:12 PM, ApexNomad said:

I believe there are psychological and fantasy-driven elements

There is nothing sexier than a man who understands the psychology behind sexual desire. 

[whatdoidowiththisagain]

6 hours ago, studchaser said:

How authentic is this story? Its giving Mudge Boy vibes lol  Who are your go to guys?

it's 100% real. not sure what mudge boy is. i guess i'll have to look that up

[Danny-Darko]

3 hours ago, studchaser said:

Im gonna break down what I said into three parts

 

1. I have heard the argument put forth that women seek out gay men either knowingly or subconciously if they are scared of emotional connection or rejection. Is this the first time you have heard that theory?

 

2. Most gay men hiring an escort or paying for time are often not looking for an emotional connection with those prospects. Is that a novel thought?

 

3. Expecting an emotional connection in a pay for hire relationship should not be expected. Do you or have you ever expected to run off into the sunset with a guy you hired?

Sorry, I don't follow your reasoning. Or I'm just "none of the above". I like what I like because I like men! I don't know how else to explain it. In no moment am I delusional to think that they are going to fall in love with me and ride off into the sunset with me! They are HIRES and simply that! And I'm a CLIENT and simply that to them. In another thread I explained how I came to realize that there is never (rarely?) a connection between escort/client other than financial and often a very temporary one because of their "needs" for the present moment. At least for the ones that are "straight". Yes, there are some career courtesans who are a cut above the rest and have taken their craft seriously and made it an art form that has been around since man has become civilized. There is a reason it's called the world's oldest profession. A few are even here on this forum! But not ALL are "professionals". And most aren't especially these younger generations that have very short-sighted goals. Sorry, I don't know how else to explain it, but I am none of the above you've mentioned! 

Edited February 21 by Danny-Darko

[Danny-Darko]

19 minutes ago, whatdoidowiththisagain said:

it's 100% real. not sure what mudge boy is. i guess i'll have to look that up

It''s a movie. Quite good I must add!

[+ ApexNomad]

On 2/19/2025 at 9:14 PM, Danny-Darko said:

For decades now since Jeff Styker and maybe even before, Gay4Pay men have been the top selling porn stars. A gay man that says he hasn't fantasied ever in his life about a hot pop idol or movie star is lying (and yes some celebs are closeted, but most are straight as far as we know). Who didn't have crushes on the straight guys in school when we started to become sexually aware? Who hasn't wondered about a hot guy at work in a sexual way? Transvestites pride themselves on being able to pick up "straight men" too! I've never seen or heard of one going out with a flaming queen. I could go on and on with examples. Yet for some reason to admit to this reality isn't politically correct in the "all-inclusive and embracing" LGBTQ+ "community". Yes, there are some men that enjoy soft, passive and even effeminate men, and nothing wrong with that. But to asume or suggest that we that prefer our men "straight" are in a different world or category is fooling themselves. And yes, maybe some of us actually do fetishize straight men more than others do. But if you think about it, it's almost normal and natural for a homosexual to be attracted to masculinity and manliness and most things about men. And most men out there in the world are straight/heterosexual and to different degrees. Us homosexuals/gays are a minority no matter how visible we now are. And finally, if most gay men who hire weren't attracted to straight men, why would so many escorts lie about it or even state that they are straight or bi on their profiles as a marketing ploy? Just some food for thought. We all like what we like even if different than what the next guy likes!

There’s a lot to unpack here, but the core issue seems to be the idea that being attracted to “straight” men is somehow more natural or universal among gay men than being attracted to other gay men. That’s simply not true. Yes, many gay men have had crushes on unattainable straight guys growing up, but that’s often because we lacked representation and safe spaces to explore our desires. That doesn’t mean all of us fetishize straightness into adulthood or see it as an ideal.

The real issue with “straight guy” fetishization isn’t about individual preference—people are attracted to different things, and that’s perfectly fine—but about the way it can reinforce internalized homophobia. Elevating straightness as the ultimate form of masculinity suggests that being openly gay makes someone less desirable, which is a toxic mindset rooted in shame. It also plays into a broader cultural problem where queer men are often expected to diminish or hide parts of themselves to be seen as attractive.

As for the escort argument, marketing is about selling a fantasy, and “straight” sells because of lingering stigmas about gayness, not because it’s some universal truth about attraction. The idea that most gay men prefer “straight” men is a broad generalization that erases the many men who love and desire other gay men without apology.

At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their preferences, but it’s worth asking—do those preferences come from an authentic place, or are they shaped by cultural bias and internalized messaging?

[SirBillybob]

I’m more generally homosexual than othergaymenincommonsexual. My self-serving exploitive objectifying use of straight meat represents far greater unresolved pathology than any residual internalized homonegativity that I might harbour. A cigar may be just a cigar. 😉

Edited February 21 by SirBillybob

[Danny-Darko]

3 hours ago, ApexNomad said:

There’s a lot to unpack here, but the core issue seems to be the idea that being attracted to “straight” men is somehow more natural or universal among gay men than being attracted to other gay men. That’s simply not true. Yes, many gay men have had crushes on unattainable straight guys growing up, but that’s often because we lacked representation and safe spaces to explore our desires. That doesn’t mean all of us fetishize straightness into adulthood or see it as an ideal.

The real issue with “straight guy” fetishization isn’t about individual preference—people are attracted to different things, and that’s perfectly fine—but about the way it can reinforce internalized homophobia. Elevating straightness as the ultimate form of masculinity suggests that being openly gay makes someone less desirable, which is a toxic mindset rooted in shame. It also plays into a broader cultural problem where queer men are often expected to diminish or hide parts of themselves to be seen as attractive.

As for the escort argument, marketing is about selling a fantasy, and “straight” sells because of lingering stigmas about gayness, not because it’s some universal truth about attraction. The idea that most gay men prefer “straight” men is a broad generalization that erases the many men who love and desire other gay men without apology.

At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their preferences, but it’s worth asking—do those preferences come from an authentic place, or are they shaped by cultural bias and internalized messaging?

Sorry, but I can't agree with you. To me it seems like you've over analyzed the issue. I get your point, but for me it's just something that has always come natural for me since my first sexual awakenings. I do like and have liked other gay men and have had sex and relationships and even been in love with other gay men. What I like about men is manliness because I am a homosexual. And for a straight man manliness and masculinity isn't a show, a costume nor a subculture he belongs to like in the LGBTQ+ "community". It's just who and what he is. 

[+ ApexNomad]

3 minutes ago, Danny-Darko said:

Sorry, but I can't agree with you. To me it seems like you've over analyzed the issue. I get your point, but for me it's just something that has always come natural for me since my first sexual awakenings. I do like and have liked other gay men and have had sex and relationships and even been in love with other gay men. What I like about men is manliness because I am a homosexual. And for a straight man manliness and masculinity isn't a show, a costume nor a subculture he belongs to like in the LGBTQ+ "community". It's just who and what he is. 

I hear you, and I’m not saying your attraction isn’t real or valid—people are drawn to what they’re drawn to. But I think it’s worth examining why masculinity is often seen as more “authentic” in straight men versus gay men. Masculinity isn’t something that only straight men inherently possess, nor is it something that gay men have to perform or belong to as part of a “subculture.” There are plenty of gay men who are naturally masculine without it being a “show.”

I think the bigger issue is how society conditions us to view certain traits as more desirable when they’re associated with straightness. But at the end of the day, attraction is personal, and as long as it’s not rooted in shame or invalidating others, people are free to have their preferences. I just think it’s important to question where those preferences come from sometimes.

[FaustOust]

I can certainly understand why being with a “straight” man would be psychologically appealing and have had sex with very straight-appearing or straight men in my life for all those reasons.  But ultimately, I have come to realize, that the sex is more enjoyable and better with someone who actually enjoys a male body, has had sexual experience with men, and isn’t afraid to do something with another man that is “too gay.”  Not that there haven’t been exceptions, but overall I have had much more fun with men who were — well, very, very gay.

[studchaser]

16 hours ago, whatdoidowiththisagain said:

it's 100% real. not sure what mudge boy is. i guess i'll have to look that up

A very hot movie where a young gay guy falls for a straight rural country boy who is like a bully.