Guest Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 So.......my most reliable provider has a massage table and a bed in the room he does massages in at his house. I think it's a weird setup. He told me this is b/c most of his clients want the massage to start on the table, but are looking for "extras" 😉. He will eventually move the massage to the bed so they have more space. But he has to use the table initially otherwise clients won't book him. Does this make sense? Why would someone who booked a masseur for extras require a massage table? Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the bed the whole time? I prefer massages on a table, but am kinda vanilla and don't need anything extra. I feel like the bed is there just to entice clients into doing more. However, my provider swears clients plan on doing more from the beginning, but still demand a massage table. Can anyone relate? Is a massage table more comfortable for sexy times?
viewing ownly Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 A massage table enables the masseur to apply the appropriate amount of pressure with you on a solid surface. For space and / or privacy purposes, you'll find a great many people with massage tables in their homes in the same room as a bedroom, which has everything to do with simple space reasons, and not convenience to possibly move on to optional hanky-panky. Since you mentioned specifically you don't have an interest in massages getting to that place, be upfront about it, both ahead of time as well as in person. That way, there shouldn't be a misunderstanding. If he violates your wishes, firmly speak up and tell him to stop. If he persists, leave and never see him again. Shawn Monroe, 56harrisond, starman05 and 1 other 2 2
Simon Suraci Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 My setup in Dallas was like what you described: massage table in one area with my bed in another, all in one room. It was for space saving reasons. Some clients did make their way to my bed after (or instead of) massage time, but those were for escort appointments or combo massage/escort appointments they booked ahead for that purpose and for the appropriate rates. My clients don’t necessarily demand the table for massage, but I advertise myself that way and insist on using a table in my clients’ best interest, to give them the best massage experience and also for my own best interest, to perform my work efficiently and effectively. I can do neither on a bed. I do admit the bed being in the room was a subtle hint that more is available. I came to embrace that aspect, although that wasn’t the original purpose. I also hang bondage implements on the wall as decor alongside homoerotic artwork. Another not-so-subtle hint. Then again, I’ve worked out of one bedroom houses, where I kept all the sexy stuff separate, in the bedroom. The massage space was dedicated so there was no ambiguity. I liked having plenty of defined space for each activity. More being available (presumably at higher rates) does not mean your masseur is going to pressure you into hiring him for sex or that he will force you to partake in extras you don’t want. Frankly, a lot of clients would be pleased that the option is available, whether or not they take the option. Nobody is going to force you to do anything you don’t want to do. My setup now is a private room in an office suite in a professional building. I have to be more discreet than I have been in the past renting houses and apartments. My artwork is neutral, nothing sexy. Bondage equipment is stowed away, and there is no space for a bed at only 150 sf. I use the massage table for clients that want more than massage, and do outcalls for clients that really want or need a bed, or more space for activities, or a private shower, or the client is very loud (partly my fault) and needs more privacy. For some clients I rent space hourly at a local sex dungeon to host them. I save quite a bit of money each month operating this way. After doing massage and escort work in various setups, I can’t fault any masseurs for making their spaces work for their business and living situations. There is no one size fits all. We make the most with what we have at any given time and place in our lives. Luv2play, 56harrisond and Whippoorwill 2 1
+ Jamie21 Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 Yes I had a set up like this for a couple of years. Start on the table, move to the bed was a common situation. People like to think they’re coming for a proper massage (which they get on a table) that develops into something more. I think you can do everything you need in terms of how things could develop on the table but the option of the bed is nice to have. Whippoorwill, Luv2play and + KensingtonHomo 1 2
+ Balthazar Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 I think multiple things can be true at the same time. I, for example, enjoy extras, but I also like a competent massage. It has been my experience that the massage portion of bed massages is frequently mediocre (from a technical perspective) and functions as foreplay for whatever happens once you flip over. That's a valid experience but often disappointing if you value massages. Ultimately, if my primary goal were to roll around on a bed with a guy, I would hire an escort. Having multiple options available allows the provider to adapt to their clients, as we all have different wants and expectations. Furthermore, for me, there is a bit of a thrill in not knowing exactly where an erotic/sensual massage will go. Starting on a table facilitates that anticipation. + ApexNomad, CuddleBuddy, jeezifonly and 3 others 3 3
LookingAround Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 Your post assumes facts not in evidence as they say. I prefer a massage on a bed not a table.
+ JamesB Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 Here’s how I see it: if I’m hiring a masseur instead of an escort, it’s because I want at least a decent massage. While I enjoy extras, I also value a skilled, competent massage. In my experience, the actual massage component in a bed is often mediocre at best. Njguy2, HockeyMan, polythome and 6 others 2 7
Ali Gator Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 When I book an erotic massage (the only ones I'm interested in), it's usually with a visiting provider, so the massage is given in a hotel room (not a suite). If there is a table set up in the room by the bed, I have my massage on the table. If not, I am happy with the bed (I never ask the provider why he didn't bring a table, as I know there are a dozen reasons which I'm not interested in). When I'm on the table and it's time for me to flip over on my back for the 'ending', the masseur usually asks / suggest for me to move to the bed for better enjoyment / relaxation, which I do. I agree getting the full release is best on the bed than up on the table. It does make the experience more 'erotic' for me, with the masseur 'straddling me' between his legs or kneeling on the bed next to me (one regular visitor actually lays on his side next to me, and looking into my eyes while he's finishing me). Quite honestly, for me it's not a hard table or a mattress which makes / breaks the massage experience for me. It's the provider, his personality, looks (yes, watching a sexy guy work on me relaxes me), and his skills. Whippoorwill and viewing ownly 1 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 13 hours ago, PickyGuy said: So.......my most reliable provider has a massage table and a bed in the room he does massages in at his house. I think it's a weird setup. He told me this is b/c most of his clients want the massage to start on the table, but are looking for "extras" 😉. He will eventually move the massage to the bed so they have more space. But he has to use the table initially otherwise clients won't book him. Does this make sense? Why would someone who booked a masseur for extras require a massage table? Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the bed the whole time? I prefer massages on a table, but am kinda vanilla and don't need anything extra. I feel like the bed is there just to entice clients into doing more. However, my provider swears clients plan on doing more from the beginning, but still demand a massage table. Can anyone relate? Is a massage table more comfortable for sexy times? If I'm getting a real massage, I want it on a table. They serve their purpose for stability and body position. Beds aren't firm enough. If I'm getting jerked off or blown by the guy, I can handle staying on the table too. It doesn't need to be all that complicated. polythome, MikeBiDude, + KensingtonHomo and 9 others 3 7 1 1
Guest Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 13 hours ago, Balthazar said: I think multiple things can be true at the same time. I, for example, enjoy extras, but I also like a competent massage. It has been my experience that the massage portion of bed massages is frequently mediocre (from a technical perspective) and functions as foreplay for whatever happens once you flip over. That's a valid experience but often disappointing if you value massages. Ultimately, if my primary goal were to roll around on a bed with a guy, I would hire an escort. Having multiple options available allows the provider to adapt to their clients, as we all have different wants and expectations. Furthermore, for me, there is a bit of a thrill in not knowing exactly where an erotic/sensual massage will go. Starting on a table facilitates that anticipation. Ok. I didn't think about it like that. SOME guys like the thrill of not knowing how the session will end. Fair enough.
polythome Posted October 27, 2024 Posted October 27, 2024 (edited) That said, I'm sometimes amazed by the strength of these tables and what they could withstand. Masseurs/clients getting mounted in all sorts of positions. All the rocking motions. My last one definitely got a lot done without us moving to the bed which was just right there. After multiple positions and taking turns sucking, he went on a 69 position on top of me -- arguably, one of best positions for driving his XL dick into my mouth-throat. The sheer bliss of the angle - we could have stayed there for ages 69-ing. Edited October 27, 2024 by polythome Luv2play and Simon Suraci 1 1
Simon Suraci Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, polythome said: That said, I'm sometimes amazed by the strength of these tables and what they could withstand. Masseurs/clients getting mounted in all sorts of positions. All the rocking motions. All the more reason to invest in a high quality table. One of my masseur friends keeps buying cheap tables and they break after a couple years. This is our primary tool for our business. I feel it’s worth the investment for something that will hold up. $500-600 range versus $100-$200 range makes a huge difference. Some masseurs I know use a stationary electric hydraulic table costing thousands. I don’t think that’s necessary, but to each his own. Personally, I prefer the Master Massage brand, model: Husky Gibraltar. The name makes me laugh. That, and the fact that on some ads they market it as “Olympic size”, like massage is an Olympic sport. Reminds me of the mom on My Big Fat Greek Wedding going out to buy “Queen” size panty hose, as if the garment is for a mattress. I digress… The table has lasted me for years and travels fairly well for outcalls. I keep a second one in my Jeep for that purpose. The Husky is 32” wide and the manufacturer claims this table supports up to 3,200 lbs. I don’t believe that, and never had a desire or reason to test anything close to that ridiculously high limit, but it gives me confidence that two men collectively weighing 300-600 lbs or more will do just fine using it for massage and/or sex, and it can take some heavy point loads from time to time. At some point it becomes impractical for me to mount the table with my client purely for spatial and logistical reasons rather than weight limitation reasons. Master Massage 32 WWW.MASTERMASSAGE.COM Table Specifications Size: 32" x 72" (W x L), 84" long including headrest Height: 24" - 34" (adjustable)... Whippoorwill 1
jeezifonly Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 Here, massage has multiple meanings. Because many clients have never really experienced professional bodywork, the difference in service and outcome between massage and massage gets blurred. I always hire work/play combo from providers offering both. A bed is great for everything except half of what I want. No table, no deal. Whippoorwill, + KensingtonHomo and + DrownedBoy 3
polythome Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 26 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said: All the more reason to invest in a high quality table. One of my masseur friends keeps buying cheap tables and they break after a couple years. This is our primary tool for our business. I feel it’s worth the investment for something that will hold up. $500-600 range versus $100-$200 range makes a huge difference. Some masseurs I know use a stationary electric hydraulic table costing thousands. I don’t think that’s necessary, but to each his own. Personally, I prefer the Master Massage brand, model: Husky Gibraltar. The name makes me laugh. That, and the fact that on some ads they market it as “Olympic size”, like massage is an Olympic sport. Reminds me of the mom on My Big Fat Greek Wedding going out to buy “Queen” size panty hose, as if the garment is for a mattress. I digress… The table has lasted me for years and travels fairly well for outcalls. I keep a second one in my Jeep for that purpose. The Husky is 32” wide and the manufacturer claims this table supports up to 3,200 lbs. I don’t believe that, and never had a desire or reason to test anything close to that ridiculously high limit, but it gives me confidence that two men collectively weighing 300-600 lbs or more will do just fine using it for massage and/or sex, and it can take some heavy point loads from time to time. At some point it becomes impractical for me to mount the table with my client purely for spatial and logistical reasons rather than weight limitation reasons. Master Massage 32 WWW.MASTERMASSAGE.COM Table Specifications Size: 32" x 72" (W x L), 84" long including headrest Height: 24" - 34" (adjustable)... While on the topic, I've also recently been on a rickety one which was stable enough when you're lying down but enough rocky that there's the scary thrill of it potentially crashing and me falling (gives another meaning to "safe play"). The masseur assured me it's fine and I was already there, hard and horny, so I just went for it. And true to form, there was no mounting of any sort that happened there - the masseur himself didn't risk it. (We did still have fun but in his couch.) Whippoorwill 1
+ KensingtonHomo Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 7 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said: If I'm getting a real massage, I want it on a table. They serve their purpose for stability and body position. Beds aren't firm enough. If I'm getting jerked off or blown by the guy, I can handle staying on the table too. It doesn't need to be all that complicated. THIS. I’ve had a lot of amazing and interesting experiences on a massage table. In fact, depending on the height of the provider and the table, it may be preferable to a bed. But for the massage part, the table is better.
+ JamesB Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said: Master Massage 32 WWW.MASTERMASSAGE.COM Table Specifications Size: 32" x 72" (W x L), 84" long including headrest Height: 24" - 34" (adjustable)... I’ve never seen the “Optional Ambient Galaxy Lighting System” on a portable table before. It must be pretty cool! + KensingtonHomo 1
Simon Suraci Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 56 minutes ago, JamesB said: I’ve never seen the “Optional Ambient Galaxy Lighting System” on a portable table before. It must be pretty cool! I didn’t opt for the ambient lighting but seems like a nice feature. I provide my own mood lighting in studio and sometimes when I’m on the road I put a rechargeable battery powered light under the table, the kind you see on restaurant tables. It’s a nice 2700k color temperature. Sorry, that’s my inner architect nerd coming out. When that light goes bad at some point, I’ll swap it out more easily than an integrated fixture. + JamesB and Whippoorwill 1 1
soloyo215 Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 On 10/27/2024 at 12:47 AM, PickyGuy said: So.......my most reliable provider has a massage table and a bed in the room he does massages in at his house. I think it's a weird setup. He told me this is b/c most of his clients want the massage to start on the table, but are looking for "extras" 😉. He will eventually move the massage to the bed so they have more space. But he has to use the table initially otherwise clients won't book him. Does this make sense? Why would someone who booked a masseur for extras require a massage table? Wouldn't it make more sense to just use the bed the whole time? I prefer massages on a table, but am kinda vanilla and don't need anything extra. I feel like the bed is there just to entice clients into doing more. However, my provider swears clients plan on doing more from the beginning, but still demand a massage table. Can anyone relate? Is a massage table more comfortable for sexy times? Yes, it makes sense.
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