Irishsensuality: $555/session

[Devah]

21 hours ago, Capitano said:

I agree, if it works for him, power to the provider charging whatever the market can support.

At the same time, I am entitled to my own opinion and this is an open forum for honest exchange of opinions and experiences. Beyond odd, $555 per hour with a 2 hour minimum strikes me as lame. I can't see a client leaving the exact $1110 on the table, if for no other reason, because I seldom have $10 bills in my wallet. Even leaving $1120 would be a little odd, but ok, we are talking $560. Is it really necessary to squeeze out those last ten dollars at this price level and using this method? Not to mention that the real implied rate here is $1,200 IMHO, so why not be honest about it and simply quote $600?

This post along with many others seems to be focusing on the price of my offering.

If you’re simply looking for a massage, which I believe many of you here are, I celebrate you, and encourage you to find one with another provider so we’re not wasting each others time and energy.

If any of you would like to share an experience like the one I offer… Let’s open the conversation.

[LookingAround]

6 minutes ago, Devah said:

This post along with many others seems to be focusing on the price of my offering.

 

With all due respect, it's a little disingenuous to be (or act) surprised that people would focus on your price when it's so high and the number is so unusual ($555.00).  Why wouldn't they comment and even focus on it?

Let's say I charged $688.00 an hour. Wouldn't people focus and comment on that? Then I act almost offended or surprised and instead urge them instead to focus on my wonderful massage? Wouldn't that, itself, be odd?

Lets be real. 

Edited May 7 by LookingAround

[+ purplekow]

DevaH I give you props for coming to this forum. but the posters here are not likely to look past the price.  There have been many providers with seemingly outrageous prices or requirements who have done quite well.  It may be that your services are a revelation and a bargain, but many here, including me are not taking the risk for that.  There are too many schemers and false prophets only in it for profits. 

Good looking guy and a genuine sexy feel from your pictures for me.   

Edited May 7 by purplekow

[Capitano]

58 minutes ago, Devah said:

This post along with many others seems to be focusing on the price of my offering.

If you’re simply looking for a massage, which I believe many of you here are, I celebrate you, and encourage you to find one with another provider so we’re not wasting each others time and energy.

If any of you would like to share an experience like the one I offer… Let’s open the conversation.

Well, I am not commenting on services advertised on rentanexperienceliketheoneIoffer.com but rentmasseur.com. I am also doing it on the forum that is literally called "Spas & Masseurs" so I don't see what the problem is. 🤣😂😅

BTW, many here are also familiar with escorting sites and rates for those services, and your rate seems high compared to those as well, and it is totally legitimate to state that fact. Of course, if you'd like to share something about your service here that would be great. "Let's open the conversation" is unlikely to work because most cannot even imagine spending over $1,100 on whatever it may be, so it's a non-starter. But, hey, as I said above, if this business model works for you, power to you!

[Devah]

1 hour ago, LookingAround said:

With all due respect, it's a little disingenuous to be (or act) surprised that people would focus on your price when it's so high and the number is so unusual ($555.00).  Why wouldn't they comment and even focus on it?

Let's say I charged $688.00 an hour. Wouldn't people focus and comment on that? Then I act almost offended or surprised and instead urge them instead to focus on my wonderful massage? Wouldn't that, itself, be odd?

Let’s be real. 

Can I ask what I’ve written that you’re receiving as offended or surprised?

[Devah]

42 minutes ago, purplekow said:

DevaH I give you props for coming to this forum. but the posters here are not likely to look past the price.  There have been many providers with seemingly outrageous proces or requirements who have done quite well.  It may be that your services are a revelation and a bargain, but many here, including me are not taking the risk for that.  There are too many schemers and false prophets only in it for profits. 

Good looking guy and a genuine sexy feel from your picutes fopr me.   

I hear you. Thank you for chiming in, and thank you for honoring yourself. 

[Devah]

28 minutes ago, Capitano said:

Well, I am not commenting on services advertised on rentanexperienceliketheoneIoffer.com but rentmasseur.com. I am also doing it on the forum that is literally called "Spas & Masseurs" so I don't see what the problem is. 🤣😂😅

BTW, many here are also familiar with escorting sites and rates for those services, and your rate seems high compared to those as well, and it is totally legitimate to state that fact. Of course, if you'd like to share something about your service here that would be great. "Let's open the conversation" is unlikely to work because most cannot even imagine spending over $1,100 on whatever it may be, so it's a non-starter. But, hey, as I said above, if this business model works for you, power to you!

I don’t believe I mentioned there was a problem with what you were focusing on, I drew attention to your point of focus.

And I haven’t come here to convince you or anyone else. I’ve come to be present for the conversation.

[Devah]

I have some questions for you all…

Are you all here taking about this because you can get massages or escort services (which I don’t offer) for less?

There are also cheap phones and iPhones… how many of you buy iPhones (or another expensive phone) and do you complain in the same way about the price of that, or do you simply buy it cause you accept that the situation at hand?

And what fulfillment are you all getting here sharing that what I offer is a scammer having never met me or experienced anything I offer?

I feel called to add that the one person who has actually shared an experience with me chimed in and shared their positive experience.

[SkyBliss]

My sense is that on this website, there is some entertainment value in users discussing atypical providers/masseurs.

It’s kind of fun to critique/ poke fun at sometimes, as people who engage in hiring. 
 

10 minutes ago, Devah said:

I have some questions for you all…

Are you all here taking about this because you can get massages or escort services (which I don’t offer) for less?

There are also cheap phones and iPhones… how many of you buy iPhones (or another expensive phone) and do you complain in the same way about the price of that, or do you simply buy it cause you accept that the situation at hand?

And what fulfillment are you all getting here sharing that what I offer is a scammer having never met me or experienced anything I offer?

I feel called to add that the one person who has actually shared an experience with me chimed in and shared their positive experience.

Happy to hear that you are willing to command such a high, and specific, price. 
 

 

[Devah]

Just now, SkyBliss said:

My sense is that on this website, there is some entertainment value in users discussing atypical providers/masseurs.

It’s kind of fun to critique/ poke fun at sometimes, as people who engage in hiring. 
 

Happy to hear that you are willing to command such a high, and specific, price. 
 

 

Thank you SkyBliss.

[+ DiscerningNYC]

Okay @Devah, what sort of training, education, skills, etc. might you have that underpin the services you offer? Let's exclude life experience for the moment. Thanks.

[BrooklynIrish]

2 hours ago, Devah said:

I have some questions for you all…

Are you all here taking about this because you can get massages or escort services (which I don’t offer) for less?

There are also cheap phones and iPhones… how many of you buy iPhones (or another expensive phone) and do you complain in the same way about the price of that, or do you simply buy it cause you accept that the situation at hand?

And what fulfillment are you all getting here sharing that what I offer is a scammer having never met me or experienced anything I offer?

I feel called to add that the one person who has actually shared an experience with me chimed in and shared their positive experience.

To answer your first question, it's a combination of a high price and an odd one ($555 per hour, 2-hour minimum). I've paid as much as $500 per hour for a specific experience that was quite explicitly laid out. Sometimes, that felt worth it to me, and other times, it didn't. I've read your profile, and I have some sense of what experiences you're offering, and also that some are more time-consuming (rope experiences). 

I have an iPhone, a recent one. I like it, but I also have a husband who's an Apple geek, so everything we have is Apple and interconnected (smart lights, air conditioning, security) through our phones. If I were single or married to someone else, I would not have kept up with the latest model. But what you're speaking to is how people relate to their money. I have a friend who goes to the theater several times a month, and he sits in a cheap seat. That's not for me. I'd rather go every other month to see something well-reviewed and have a great seat to have the whole experience. After a few irritating situations, we rarely go to the theater together because he wants to see many plays/musicals, and I want to see quality ones and be comfortable. I feel like most people here fall somewhere between me and my friend regarding hiring. They want a good (not necessarily spectacular) experience at a reasonable (to them) price. As someone who hires (often with my husband) primarily for convenience (we don't party anymore, rarely go to bars and the apps are a nightmare), there's a limit to the price I'm willing to pay for convenience. 

Lastly, I don't know that anyone called you a scammer. Some guys on here are rather rude when it comes to providers. I treat everyone how I want to be treated, which is with respect and assuming good intentions. However, the larger field you operate in has a fair number of scam artists who take a deposit and don't show up, claim to offer massage but have no training, or promise a particular experience and can't or won't deliver it. And because these activities are extra-legal, both parties have no recourse. For what it's worth, you seem genuine and earnest to me. I would likely take the plunge if your rate included an hour session. 

[Capitano]

6 hours ago, Devah said:

I have some questions for you all…

Are you all here taking about this because you can get massages or escort services (which I don’t offer) for less?

There are also cheap phones and iPhones… how many of you buy iPhones (or another expensive phone) and do you complain in the same way about the price of that, or do you simply buy it cause you accept that the situation at hand?

And what fulfillment are you all getting here sharing that what I offer is a scammer having never met me or experienced anything I offer?

I feel called to add that the one person who has actually shared an experience with me chimed in and shared their positive experience.

OK, just one more reply and then I am done here. Nobody buys an iPhone without knowing anything about it, seeing it, checking out the features etc.  You keep saying "let’s open the conversation." Why not just say "here is why the experience I offer is so unique and why many think it's worth it." I'd love to hear that. While it is highly unlikely I'll ever try, one never knows! I certainly won't unless I have SOME idea what I'd get. 

[Devah]

6 hours ago, DiscerningNYC said:

Okay @Devah, what sort of training, education, skills, etc. might you have that underpin the services you offer? Let's exclude life experience for the moment. Thanks.

A question at last. Thank you.

I have a II-1 Batchelors degree in Neuroscience from Trinity College Dublin, Ireland where we studied human physiology along side the medical students and worked with real human cadavers to understand musculature and nervous system of the body by working with a corpse with its skin removed.
 

We also studied psychology and neurobiochemistry diving into the effects of trauma on the body, how it’s stored somatically, how it affects developmental biology and physiological homeostasis. On the flip side we studied neuroplasticity and the environments and situations that are most conducive to rewiring the nervous system. 

We also studied how genetically inherited traits express and how various factors in the ‘nature vs nurture’ comparison encourage genetic expression. These were just a few points that were studied amongst other things in that 4 year course.

I then became attuned in Reiki to master level and how to perceive the subtleties of people’s energetic bodies. For sceptics who consider this woo woo it could also potentially be described as the electricity in my body perceiving variations in the electricity of another persons body, though this isn’t really the complete picture.

I then learned how to become Multiorgasmic through Mantak chia’s teachings. Though I’ve never sat with Matak Chia directly I have a close friend in my men’s circle who’s been certified to teach directly by him. He’s affirmed that I’ve been doing the techniques correctly. My awareness of energy from the Reiki attunements made it easy to perceive and move the energy as laid out in Mantak Chia’s manuals.

My connection to rope and the world of BDSM was born in the presence of masters while living in Japan for 4 years. I sat with many of the greatest rope masters from Asia, and even sat with Bruce of Esinem in London. Tom Hugh my level of mastery isn’t where theirs is as I never made it an intense focus in my life, I understand the energetic of creating the experience.

From there I had a lot of life experiences but since we’re focusing on qualifications, I eventually sat with Sarita, a Tantra Master in her 70’s who’s been involved in the world of Tantra and practicing daily since the age of 19, and who is a direct transmission. Just being in her presence one learns so much. I learned 4 ancient tantric massage techniques from different lineages in a 225hr full month long immersion.

After that I qualified as an EFT practitioner while also completing a Non Violent communication course.

There are many other ways throughout my life that I learned to hold space for people’s dynamic escalated emotional expression, but these didn’t come with a piece of paper that someone handed to me to affirm I had achieved any level of mastery with them.

Thank you again for your question.

[Devah]

17 hours ago, BrooklynIrish said:

To answer your first question, it's a combination of a high price and an odd one ($555 per hour, 2-hour minimum). I've paid as much as $500 per hour for a specific experience that was quite explicitly laid out. Sometimes, that felt worth it to me, and other times, it didn't. I've read your profile, and I have some sense of what experiences you're offering, and also that some are more time-consuming (rope experiences). 

I have an iPhone, a recent one. I like it, but I also have a husband who's an Apple geek, so everything we have is Apple and interconnected (smart lights, air conditioning, security) through our phones. If I were single or married to someone else, I would not have kept up with the latest model. But what you're speaking to is how people relate to their money. I have a friend who goes to the theater several times a month, and he sits in a cheap seat. That's not for me. I'd rather go every other month to see something well-reviewed and have a great seat to have the whole experience. After a few irritating situations, we rarely go to the theater together because he wants to see many plays/musicals, and I want to see quality ones and be comfortable. I feel like most people here fall somewhere between me and my friend regarding hiring. They want a good (not necessarily spectacular) experience at a reasonable (to them) price. As someone who hires (often with my husband) primarily for convenience (we don't party anymore, rarely go to bars and the apps are a nightmare), there's a limit to the price I'm willing to pay for convenience. 

Lastly, I don't know that anyone called you a scammer. Some guys on here are rather rude when it comes to providers. I treat everyone how I want to be treated, which is with respect and assuming good intentions. However, the larger field you operate in has a fair number of scam artists who take a deposit and don't show up, claim to offer massage but have no training, or promise a particular experience and can't or won't deliver it. And because these activities are extra-legal, both parties have no recourse. For what it's worth, you seem genuine and earnest to me. I would likely take the plunge if your rate included an hour session. 

Thanks for answering Brooklyn,

You seem like a genuine fella too.

The reason that I don’t offer an hour is because it’s too short a window to achieve the experience that I offer. For therapeutic massage, yes, that’s lots of time, but I like to connect to parts much deeper that the physical body and it’s the trance that inspires the relaxation and ultimately the healing. It takes time for people, once they’ve stepped away from the busy world, to settle into the resonance with me and slip in. 1hr simply isn’t enough time, even if the experience is one focusing on touch.

I hear you on the money piece too. The people who work with me are, for the most part, people seeking a shift in their relationship to their sexuality, or desiring to heal from the somatic element of a trauma in the past. For these people the investment they’re making in their future is worth every penny. If someone breaks down the cost of an experience with me by the number of days they could be alive for the rest of their life… it ends up not being so much.

And yes, it was a ‘schemer’ not a scammer as my memory recalled

[Devah]

14 hours ago, Capitano said:

OK, just one more reply and then I am done here. Nobody buys an iPhone without knowing anything about it, seeing it, checking out the features etc.  You keep saying "let’s open the conversation." Why not just say "here is why the experience I offer is so unique and why many think it's worth it." I'd love to hear that. While it is highly unlikely I'll ever try, one never knows! I certainly won't unless I have SOME idea what I'd get. 

I spent months creating my website and typing all this out. There’s an FAQ on the Etiquette page and each of the offerings is outlined. I don’t rewrite something I meticulously composed every time someone asks me to or I would have no free time in my life.

https://divinityempowered.love

[DunwoodyGuy]

22 hours ago, Devah said:

This post along with many others seems to be focusing on the price of my offering.

Yes, because the conversation begins and ends there. Your $1100 price probably excludes 99% of the men on this board. Yet you keep coming back and bumping this thread up to the top.

You shouldn't be surprised that many of us have gone from thinking you're just annoying to considering you the worst kind of troll.  

You needn't respond to this comment. But if you do, rest assured I will not respond.

Goodbye. 

[MikeBiDude]

2 hours ago, DunwoodyGuy said:

Yes, because the conversation begins and ends there. Your $1100 price probably excludes 99% of the men on this board. Yet you keep coming back and bumping this thread up to the top.

You shouldn't be surprised that many of us have gone from thinking you're just annoying to considering you the worst kind of troll.  

You needn't respond to this comment. But if you do, rest assured I will not respond.

Goodbye. 

I don’t think you should presume you speak for 99% of the forum? Price hardly “ends” the conversation for many of us here. 

@Devah offers something that yes, is out-of-the-box for most of our providers/posters. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve to be heard, and he does not deserve to get dissed and be called a “troll”.

[+ purplekow]

3 hours ago, Devah said:

 

 

 

And yes, it was a ‘schemer’ not a scammer as my memory recalled

I was the one who used schemer and I did not accuse you of being one.,  I merely stated that there have been many schemers here who are in it for the money and that as a result, many here are cautious about hiring.  Your qualifications are well delineated in your post concerning those.  I was not attempting to insult you only to further the conversation as to why cost and unusual services might be looked at with a jaundiced eye.  

Again, I commend you for continuing the conversation and while I was impressed with your description of services, I am unlikely to utilize your skills despite your intelligent and measured responses and your looks which appeal to me very much.  I hope the time that it took you to respond to these postings turns out to be a worthwhile investment of your time. I also hoe that future clients find that their financial investment was a bargain.  

[LookingAround]

4 hours ago, Devah said:

A question at last. Thank you.

I have a II-1 Batchelors degree in Neuroscience from Trinity College Dublin, Ireland where we studied human physiology along side the medical students and worked with real human cadavers to understand musculature and nervous system of the body by working with a corpse with its skin removed.
 

We also studied psychology and neurobiochemistry diving into the effects of trauma on the body, how it’s stored somatically, how it affects developmental biology and physiological homeostasis. On the flip side we studied neuroplasticity and the environments and situations that are most conducive to rewiring the nervous system. 

We also studied how genetically inherited traits express and how various factors in the ‘nature vs nurture’ comparison encourage genetic expression. These were just a few points that were studied amongst other things in that 4 year course.

 

I don't know about the rest of it but I'm a board certified psychologist who's been a full professor at several Ivy League universities and this is psychobabble of the highest caliber I've seen. 😂😂😂

[Devah]

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

I don’t think you should presume you speak for 99% of the forum? Price hardly “ends” the conversation for many of us here. 

@Devah offers something that yes, is out-of-the-box for most of our providers/posters. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve to be heard, and he does not deserve to get dissed and be called a “troll”.

Thank you for speaking Mike. Respect to you brother.

[Devah]

1 hour ago, purplekow said:

I was the one who used schemer and I did not accuse you of being one.,  I merely stated that there have been many schemers here who are in it for the money and that as a result, many here are cautious about hiring.  Your qualifications are well delineated in your post concerning those.  I was not attempting to insult you only to further the conversation as to why cost and unusual services might be looked at with a jaundiced eye.  

Again, I commend you for continuing the conversation and while I was impressed with your description of services, I am unlikely to utilize your skills despite your intelligent and measured responses and your looks which appeal to me very much.  I hope the time that it took you to respond to these postings turns out to be a worthwhile investment of your time. I also hoe that future clients find that their financial investment was a bargain.  

I appreciate you purplekow, and thank you for taking the time to reply once again to help me keep the ship of my perception on course.

I’m enjoying this conversation very much without any attachment to it going any which way. Simply joined cause I wondered what would happen if the people being spoken about showed up to join in

[Devah]

58 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

I don't know about the rest of it but I'm a board certified psychologist who's been a full professor at several Ivy League universities and this is psychobabble of the highest caliber I've seen. 😂😂😂

Happy to dive deeper. I bet we could have some interesting discussions.

[JayinHKNYC]

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

I don’t think you should presume you speak for 99% of the forum? Price hardly “ends” the conversation for many of us here. 

@Devah offers something that yes, is out-of-the-box for most of our providers/posters. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve to be heard, and he does not deserve to get dissed and be called a “troll”.

1. 99% -- yes, an exaggeration to some extent but it is an accurate comment about the VAST number on here.

2. many of us -- many could be a range of numbers but again not many as in anywhere the majority 

3. so let's hear from someone wealthy who has tried it out

4.deserves to be heard -- true but to the majority of people on here it's a site to hear the names of people and read REVIEWS. This has been EXCLUSIVELY advertising/PR. I wonder what this site would be like if 2,000 RM and MF and RM providers started strings on here and treated it like an advertising vehicle. The vast majority of people do not want that. So my challenge is no more talking around the topic -- this is not the site for "a conversation". I dare the next 10 posts to be reviews of their actual experiences with him.

[+ Jamie21]

Each to his own. I’m sure there’s people who will be up for @Devah services and who will get something out of it. I find that if you’re looking for something Orphic there’s always people who are willing to provide it for you. If it helps you then it works. 

I get asked by clients for Tantric sessions. I say I don’t do them. I’ve attended Tantra workshops out of curiosity and I find it impenetrable: too couched in obscure language and insider speak. I ask clients who want a Tantra session to describe what they’d like without using ‘tantric’ language. Turns out they want to feel approved of. I can do that. 

I think these services that offer to unlock secrets and awaken consciousness etc is like religion: if you want to believe then you will find it. If you aren’t bothered then it’s just another snake oil salesman’s pitch or fairy story. Nothing wrong with believing, it meets a need for those who are searching. I just don’t buy the pitch. Call me cynical! 

As for the price. He can charge whatever he likes. No one is forcing anyone to pay it. If it’s more money than you want to pay, don’t buy!