Cooper Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 Administrator’s Message Gentlemen, Let’s stop the bickering. Attack the issue not the person. Stay on topic. Ignoring a moderator’s warning is a Guideline violation. PecLuvr 1
+ José Soplanucas Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 According to some clients, we need a new tech to honor the "available now" notice. soloyo215, Simon Suraci, + DynamicUno and 3 others 1 1 4
soloyo215 Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) I never knew that there's so much to talk about regarding this "available now" tihng. Life is so simple to me. I know that: 1. Providers do whatever they want as they see their actions fit their purpose (that's actually one of the reasons some have given for being in that line of work) 2. Just like inches, age, position, what they are into, available now can also be stretched, misrepresented, misued and abused. 3.Most importantly, the fact that there is a public announcement about the provider being available means that others, just like me, can see it and reach out to the provider at the same time or right before me, making him no longer available. That's kind of basic. I also agree that it might mean available to take calls and and scheduling. Without putting down those who feel an urge to see a provider now, now, NOW, I think it's reasonable to wait a few hours. They have to prepare, travel and make arrangements. Edited August 13, 2024 by soloyo215 LA50, Saabster, Whippoorwill and 1 other 2 2
Hot4latin Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said: According to some clients, we need a new tech to honor the "available now" notice. soloyo215, Whippoorwill and + José Soplanucas 1 2
+ DrownedBoy Posted August 13, 2024 Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) What someone said, it's on a 6 hour timer. If you want to discuss etiquette, you should start with providers who are marked "Available Now" and then get annoyed with you for waking them up, etc. That gets me to block them immediately. ETA notwithstanding, if a provider flags themselves as available, they should be nominally available.They should EXPECT to be contacted no matter what the time, if they've flagged themselves. Edited August 13, 2024 by DrownedBoy Swazca and soloyo215 1 1
+ José Soplanucas Posted August 14, 2024 Posted August 14, 2024 Oh wow. The definition of "available now" seems to depend on client's desperation and whim. + Vegas_Millennial, + DynamicUno, mike carey and 5 others 1 2 5
Sinclaire Posted August 14, 2024 Posted August 14, 2024 I've literally messaged 3 different "available now" providers almost an hour ago asking for more info and not a single one has responded 🤣 Lol, why is this so difficult?! Like, I get that everyone is busy but man I can't catch a break soloyo215 and ReynST 1 1
Occasional Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 When I meet a new provider, I prefer to arrange a same-day appointment. Otherwise, I tend to find myself caught up in tension between anticipating pleasure on the one hand, and possible disappointment on the other. I think it's helpful to follow potential new hires for some days or weeks, seeing when they tend to log on, whether and when they tend to be "Available Now" - and, importantly, whether "Available Now" lingers for hours after they were last online. 'Available Now' at 7am when they were last online at 2am doesn't inspire me with confidence! I haven't hired much at all since Covid, but I've been keeping an eye on a handful of potential hires reasonably local to me (I live a few miles outside Central London). Quite early yesterday morning, I saw that one such potential new hire was "Available Now" and had been online 20 minutes ago. I was tempted to make contact, but decided to leave it - busy day ahead. Half an hour later, checked again, still "Available Now"- and online! So I did my usual - texted to ask if OK to ring, Had reply within minutes. Quick chat to confirm rates and to outline my expectations. Then, when can we meet? Answer: when can you be here? Appointment made for an hour ahead. All went well ... it's such a pleasure to meet a new hire where there's rapport, and perceived potential for the good first-time "activity" to get even better as you relax that bit more together in future sessions. And he looked even better in the flesh that his lightly-photoshopped photos ;-) As Humpty Dumpty said,"'when I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean". I do commend the approach in my second paragraph above, to get a better feel for what any particular provider means by "Available Now". Whippoorwill, Saabster and ReynST 2 1
+ Jamie21 Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 56 minutes ago, Occasional said: When I meet a new provider, I prefer to arrange a same-day appointment. Otherwise, I tend to find myself caught up in tension between anticipating pleasure on the one hand, and possible disappointment on the other. That’s interesting. I don’t hire, I provide… but I’d have thought that the uncertainty was all part of the anticipation especially if you’re meeting someone new. Will it be good or will it be not so good? Having that period of time last a day or more would build the anticipation and excitement. Probably raise expectations too. Of course you want the balance to be on the side of ‘it will probably be awesome’ so if his offering sounds enticing then you’re 75% hoping for awesome but as with anything new there’s a possibility it’s meh or 💩. Those meh experiences serve to contrast the 😍 experiences. And the 💩 are stories to tell your friends in the pub. I have some clients who book months ahead…(usually visitors to London) and they say “I’ve been looking forward to this for ages”. All that build up of anticipation is sweet. I like to make it worth the wait for them..so they book again. Other clients book at short notice (usually an hour or so) and that’s cool too but I can’t help thinking they miss out on the build up and treat it like a quick take away meal rather than a special dinner. There’s a time and place for both but my preference is usually for the special dinner. Deferred gratification is something to be valued in my experience. I think Amazon Prime has a lot to answer for! Whippoorwill 1
+ DrownedBoy Posted August 15, 2024 Posted August 15, 2024 16 hours ago, Jamie21 said: Deferred gratification is something to be valued in my experience Most gay guys deferred their gratification for at least 18 years, during the horniest and most formative years of their life. It's not as fun as it sounds. Whippoorwill and Lohengrin1979 1 1
+ José Soplanucas Posted August 16, 2024 Posted August 16, 2024 9 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said: Most gay guys deferred their gratification for at least 18 years, Really? In what planet? + DrownedBoy 1
HockeyMan Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 "Available Now," means, "Available for same day bookings," in practice. Saabster and marylander1940 2
Callas Posted January 4 Posted January 4 I reached out to a masseur “available now” at 2 am asking if he takes appts at 1 or 2 am. He replied back in 3 mins saying it’s no problem. wow people really get a massage at 2 am? could any NYC masseurs comment on how busy after 12 am is? Another one replied at 3 am available — wow 🤯
Ali Gator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 "Available now" from a provider reminds me of many of my friends who say, "If you need me to help you with that (something I'm working on), I'm available!" That means, "I'm available until you need me, so don't call me to help you." marylander1940 1
marylander1940 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 8/4/2024 at 6:15 PM, NoahMathews89 said: Most of the time (in my exp) they are not "Available Now" as the sign on their profile indicates. It means even if they have a one-hour appointment already scheduled that day, they could see you before or after.
marylander1940 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) On 8/14/2024 at 2:01 PM, Sinclaire said: I've literally messaged 3 different "available now" providers almost an hour ago asking for more info and not a single one has responded 🤣 Lol, why is this so difficult?! Like, I get that everyone is busy but man I can't catch a break maybe they were busy with a 60 or 90 minutes appointment. Would you like them to be texting other potential clients while they're with you? Do you reply to messages by your friends within minutes all the time even if you're busy with other things? Edited January 5 by marylander1940 + ApexNomad and Callas 1 1
Ali Gator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 15 hours ago, marylander1940 said: maybe they were busy with a 60 or 90 minutes appointment. Would you like them to be texting other potential clients while they're with you? Do you reply to messages by your friends within minutes all the time even if you're busy with other things? 1. If they're busy with a 60 or 90 minute appt with a client, why don't they update their status to 'not available now' shortly before the client arrives ? How difficult can that be ? 2. See #1 response. 3. Yes, I usually do if the phone is near me (happens quite a bit when I'm working as I have a different schedule than most). I simply text, "Busy right now. I'll call you later". It takes less than 15 seconds for me to text / send that message. It's 2025 - very easy and quick to communicate these days as well as update status info when your time will be blocked out for an hour or so.
marylander1940 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ali Gator said: 1. If they're busy with a 60 or 90 minute appt with a client, why don't they update their status to 'not available now' shortly before the client arrives ? How difficult can that be ? 2. See #1 response. 3. Yes, I usually do if the phone is near me (happens quite a bit when I'm working as I have a different schedule than most). I simply text, "Busy right now. I'll call you later". It takes less than 15 seconds for me to text / send that message. It's 2025 - very easy and quick to communicate these days as well as update status info when your time will be blocked out for an hour or so. They're just fishing for clients that's why it says available now. I don't know how rentmasseur works but in rentmen they click available for 6 hours to be on the first pages. Picture them having to log in click available and later on click "unavailable" if they get a client. Easier to click "available" for 6 hours and later click again to be on the first pages. It's not easy to communicate if you have your hands on someone else's body and you can't pick up the phone. Some escorts have a handler, I wouldn't be surprised if AI comes with a way to set up appointments for them in the future. We must walk n someone else's shoes every now and then. We shouldn't get offended is someone doesn't reply right away. Edited January 5 by marylander1940 Callas and + ApexNomad 1 1
Ali Gator Posted January 5 Posted January 5 7 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: It's not easy to communicate if you have your hands on someone else's body and you can't pick up the phone. Some escorts have a handler, I wouldn't be surprised if AI comes with a way to set up appointments for them in the future. I've also used the 'auto-reply' on my phone for incoming messages when I'm at a meeting and have my phone in silence. It's really not that hard to do - technology has come a long way in the past 25 years. marylander1940 and Callas 1 1
marylander1940 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ali Gator said: I've also used the 'auto-reply' on my phone for incoming messages when I'm at a meeting and have my phone in silence. It's really not that hard to do - technology has come a long way in the past 25 years. Actually that's a great idea! Unfortunately, I doubt they can personalize the message constantly updating their availability. for instance someone texting asking for if he's free and what's included in the HE, and the "autoreply" saying he's busy for 90 minutes and if the client could wait that long. Edited January 5 by marylander1940
+ ApexNomad Posted January 5 Posted January 5 14 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: We must walk n someone else's shoes every now and then. We shouldn't get offended is someone doesn't reply right away. This is the takeaway for me, and it’s so important. Patience really is a virtue. I’d rather a provider respond when they’re clear-headed than rush a response. There’s nothing more off-putting than reading a message that feels rushed, with misspelled words or signs of distraction—it’s clear they’re juggling multiple things. I can wait. When I’m working, people know they might need to wait for me, but I always make sure to respond in a timely manner, and when I do, they have my full attention. Callas and marylander1940 1 1
marylander1940 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: This is the takeaway for me, and it’s so important. Patience really is a virtue. I’d rather a provider respond when they’re clear-headed than rush a response. There’s nothing more off-putting than reading a message that feels rushed, with misspelled words or signs of distraction—it’s clear they’re juggling multiple things. I can wait. When I’m working, people know they might need to wait for me, but I always make sure to respond in a timely manner, and when I do, they have my full attention. And it's a virtue most don't have. It's an era of automatic gratification when waiting for an Uber while seeing its location on GPS is tough to some... and when it comes to escorts/masseurs a message like that makes you wonder if it's PNP or the guy is trash or just desperate. Edited January 5 by marylander1940 dyslexia + ApexNomad 1
pubic_assistance Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 8/12/2024 at 6:33 PM, Swazca said: Let’s get one thing straight: 'available now' means right now—not in two hours, not after a nap, not whenever it’s convenient for you or the service provider. If you think that’s 'immediate,' you might want to revisit the concept of time because you’re clearly out of touch. I think this attitude feels pretty entitled to me. So perhaps a little self-refection is in order. "NOW" may mean right-now on Grindr...but when you're scheduling a professional of any sort...They will want to have an hour or two to prepare for your enjoyment. Simon Suraci and Callas 2
Simon Suraci Posted January 5 Posted January 5 20 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: When I’m working, people know they might need to wait for me, but I always make sure to respond in a timely manner, and when I do, they have my full attention. Agree! 👍 I learned a hard lesson last summer in slowing down and giving messages my full attention. I’m used to clients being pushy and impatient and then losing work when I’m not responding quickly enough. It’s a lot of pressure at times. I can’t respond as quickly as every client wants or expects, but that’s ok. Losing work due to a delayed response is better than what happened below. I royally f’d up in Houston. A client booked me a few days ahead on RentMen and it was on my books. At the end of the booking conversation he shared his cell phone number with me on RentMen Messenger for reference and that was that. If I were diligent and not rushed I would probably have added the number as a contact to help me remember him if/when he messages. The day of the appointment, I was between other back to back appointments frantically trying to respond to a bunch of messages in my tight ‘gap’ time. One of these text messages was the RentMen client I was expecting later that day. He mentioned briefly who he was but I was rushing like crazy and did not read it carefully. I didn’t understand who it was thinking it was a new client inquiry. I read the time he wanted and noted the conflict with the RentMen client, so I told him I was booked but could do a later time. He couldn’t do a later time. He was simply confirming the reservation he had already made and that went over my head. Since he couldn’t meet at another available time, we reached an impasse. Rushed as I was in that moment, I barely read the messages and misinterpreted everything. Later in the day the time the client originally booked comes and I’m expecting the RentMen client. He doesn’t show up and I’m irritated thinking he is a no-show. I contact him asking if he was still planning to meet. He was understandably confused and after a couple exchanges I realized my error, looked back at the text message he sent earlier and it was way more clear to me who he was and what had happened. I apologized profusely explaining it was my mistake. We didn’t end up meeting, unfortunately, and I felt terrible about it. It all would have worked out had I decided to delay my response until I was able to give it my full attention. I don’t think this client would have been bothered by an hour or two delay. Maybe some would, and that’s the pressure I feel in these moments. Lesson learned: slow the f* down. CastaDiva 1
+ ApexNomad Posted January 5 Posted January 5 8 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said: Agree! 👍 I learned a hard lesson last summer in slowing down and giving messages my full attention. I’m used to clients being pushy and impatient and then losing work when I’m not responding quickly enough. It’s a lot of pressure at times. I can’t respond as quickly as every client wants or expects, but that’s ok. Losing work due to a delayed response is better than what happened below. I royally f’d up in Houston. A client booked me a few days ahead on RentMen and it was on my books. At the end of the booking conversation he shared his cell phone number with me on RentMen Messenger for reference and that was that. If I were diligent and not rushed I would probably have added the number as a contact to help me remember him if/when he messages. The day of the appointment, I was between other back to back appointments frantically trying to respond to a bunch of messages in my tight ‘gap’ time. One of these text messages was the RentMen client I was expecting later that day. He mentioned briefly who he was but I was rushing like crazy and did not read it carefully. I didn’t understand who it was thinking it was a new client inquiry. I read the time he wanted and noted the conflict with the RentMen client, so I told him I was booked but could do a later time. He couldn’t do a later time. He was simply confirming the reservation he had already made and that went over my head. Since he couldn’t meet at another available time, we reached an impasse. Rushed as I was in that moment, I barely read the messages and misinterpreted everything. Later in the day the time the client originally booked comes and I’m expecting the RentMen client. He doesn’t show up and I’m irritated thinking he is a no-show. I contact him asking if he was still planning to meet. He was understandably confused and after a couple exchanges I realized my error, looked back at the text message he sent earlier and it was way more clear to me who he was and what had happened. I apologized profusely explaining it was my mistake. We didn’t end up meeting, unfortunately, and I felt terrible about it. It all would have worked out had I decided to delay my response until I was able to give it my full attention. I don’t think this client would have been bothered by an hour or two delay. Maybe some would, and that’s the pressure I feel in these moments. Lesson learned: slow the f* down. That really sucks, and I’m sorry that happened. You’re human, and you’re doing your best. In my opinion, it’s always so much better to give yourself the space to recharge and take a moment, especially in a field where intimacy—on any level—is being exchanged. Taking that time ensures you can show up fully present, and that’s what truly matters. Simon Suraci 1
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