Sometimes I wonder how anyone can do this with a 9 to 5…

[jmichaeliii]

9 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Ah you probably went to the MassageForHim.com website. There’s a link on there to the justforfans - circled red on this screenshot.

And the justforfans site name is on the bottom of my posts. 

 

Mine doesn't look like this for some reason, but I did find a subscription page, so I am guessing that's the right one?

[+ Jamie21]

24 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

Mine doesn't look like this for some reason, but I did find a subscription page, so I am guessing that's the right one?

Probably! If it’s the justforfans subscription page 🙂.

As it’s easier I’ll just add it here 

JustFor.Fans

JUSTFOR.FANS

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[jmichaeliii]

12 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Probably! If it’s the justforfans subscription page 🙂.

As it’s easier I’ll just add it here 

JustFor.Fans

JUSTFOR.FANS

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Free, Uncensored Photos/Videos Plus Premium Content. Watch HD videos and photos at...

 

Thank you.  That was what I found, so I know I'm subscribing to the right thing!

[Trick]

On 5/25/2024 at 10:58 AM, DERRIK said:

Some providers are EASY TO BUY - some are not

 

Some providers’ business models are very convenient for them, not for clients.

[Guest]

On 5/25/2024 at 11:46 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I consider myself fairly easy to buy (or “rent” I should say)

I completely agree. 

[TallMuscl37]

1 hour ago, Trick said:

Some providers’ business models are very convenient for them, not for clients.

Keep reading…

On 5/25/2024 at 5:51 AM, soloyo215 said:

One of the issues of this not being a recognized profession. I'm sure a good market analysis or analytics can shed some light on the most likely and most common times clients want services. I agree that a great number of the "target demographic" might be people that after 5pm might want to be with family or with other responsibilities.

Personally I have some flexibility in my schedule, and I'm technically in a 9-5 job, but I can book at pretty much any time of the day. I can see that being challenging for others.

In this person’s case: dude is a single gay man with no wife or kids to go home to. He has an ex husband, which sounds like he’s gotten stiffed on the divorce (and probably taking it out on me in the process), but it’s not due to having to be home by a certain time.

The main point though is, I think clients need to recognize that escorts/masseurs don’t necessarily live to revolve their world around them. And I dislike when a client makes me feel like my effort to drive to them is insignificant. This particular client had a nack for being impatient with me, and idk if it’s anxiety, controlling or what: but I would imagine most escorts would have dropped him right off the bat.

But being I have a limited amount of guys to work with in the market I live: I can endure it, TO AN EXTENT. But at this point, I’m tired. I don’t have time for bossy, demeaning, petty dudes who think their narrow timelines, is more important than essential things I may have to handle. Some of them don’t realize: if these things aren’t taken care, I can’t operate or be in a capacity to meet them at all. 
 

 

Edited May 27, 2024 by Jarrod_Uncut

[DWnyc]

On 5/25/2024 at 4:33 AM, jmichaeliii said:

I do middle of the day all the time. 

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None of my providers have had an issue with that.

Each provider may have his own circumstances and preferences. I’ve typically found they welcome during the day bookings as it can be a quiet time for them otherwise, and they’re doing other things at night like filming for their OnlyFans or going on Grindr to find people they actually want to fool around with themselves 😉

[+ Jamie21]

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

Each provider may have his own circumstances and preferences. I’ve typically found they welcome during the day bookings as it can be a quiet time for them otherwise, and they’re doing other things at night like filming for their OnlyFans or going on Grindr to find people they actually want to fool around with themselves 😉

Filming for Onlyfans happens daytime too!  Most of my filming is daytime. As the title of the conversation says it’s very difficult to do this work whilst doing a 9 to 5. I know a lot of guys who do sex work and none of them have a conventional 9 to 5 job. Most either do it full time or have a part time job.

You have to be extremely flexible with your schedule doing this job. My week can change very quickly from being almost empty to being full; I can start the day with plans to do my laundry go to the gym and then update my website and end up having done none of those things but will have seen 2 clients. It’s quite random so you get used to changing plans.

What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule.

Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans. 

[TallMuscl37]

3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

As the title of the conversation says it’s very difficult to do this work whilst doing a 9 to 5. I know a lot of guys who do sex work and none of them have a conventional 9 to 5 job. Most either do it full time or have a part time job.

You have to be extremely flexible with your schedule doing this job. My week can change very quickly from being almost empty to being full; I can start the day with plans to do my laundry go to the gym and then update my website and end up having done none of those things but will have seen 2 clients. It’s quite random so you get used to changing plans.

What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule.

Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans. 

Bingo. And I’ll add further: guys have to either A) not plan stuff too close the session or at the very least B)inform the provider that they have something going on.
 

Now case in point, I know showing text conversations can be a bit drawn out to read but, when they say there’s “2 sides to every story”, there’s a reason why. Now this is me in green (non iPhone conversation)

#1 the above invite happens hours after his last text around noon. And I didn’t even think he was trying to meet the next day at all. That’s why I told @marylander1940, the day before isn’t necessarily plenty of notice in ALL cases. Normally it MIGHT be, but not if someone just happens to pick a day I have something planned. And if it’s a city that’s out of state, double that amount of notice. Next:

 

#2 why the f**k would he wait until several conversations later the next day, close to the time of the booking to tell me he has a company dinner planned? If he had limited time constraints, I told him he should have communicated that better…just like I told him when I needed to.
 

Then later on in the message he says, “we should push it to next Wednesday”. What makes him think I’m even available then, especially when I may have had a need for the money the day we planned . Now I’m supposed to be willing to wait a whole week? The audacity 🤦🏾‍♂️ 
 

And I know it sounds like I’m just harping on that 1 booking but, I’ve seen things like this happen before. The client comes across pushy and impatient, despite previously making it seem he had plenty of availability previously. It wasn’t necessarily the time of day that was the issue.

 

Edited May 27, 2024 by Jarrod_Uncut

[jmichaeliii]

18 minutes ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Bingo. And I’ll add further: guys have to either A) not plan stuff too close the session or at the very least B)inform the provider that they have something going on.
 

Now case in point, I know showing text conversations can be a bit drawn out to read but, when they say there’s “2 sides to every story”, there’s a reason why. Now this is me in green (non iPhone conversation)

#1 the above invite happens hours after his last text around noon. And I didn’t even think he was trying to meet the next day at all. That’s why I told @marylander1940, the day before isn’t necessarily plenty of notice in ALL cases. Normally it MIGHT be, but not if someone just happens to pick a day I have something planned. And if it’s a city that’s out of state, double that amount of notice. Next:

 

#2 why the f**k would he wait until several conversations later the next day, close to the time of the booking to tell me he has a company dinner planned? If he had limited time constraints, I told him he should have communicated that better…just like I told him when I needed to.
 

Then later on in the message he says, “we should push it to next Wednesday”. What makes him think I’m even available then, especially when I may have had a need for the money the day we planned . Now I’m supposed to be willing to wait a whole week? The audacity 🤦🏾‍♂️ 
 

And I know it sounds like I’m just harping on that 1 booking but, I’ve seen things like this happen before. The client comes across pushy and impatient, despite previously making it seem he had plenty of availability previously. It wasn’t necessarily the time of day that was the issue.

 

That's just crazy.  I'd never jerk around someone like that.  I make the appointment and stick with it and don't make plans like this when I have a potential conflict that could screw it up. The stress of whether you can make it on time kind of ruins the intent of why you are doing this.

I've had to cancel twice in all the times I hired, but I gave plenty of notice and offered either a partial payment or reschedule and never had an issue. 

That client is way too high maintenance in my opinion.

 

[marylander1940]

On 5/25/2024 at 4:33 AM, jmichaeliii said:

I do middle of the day all the time.  There is a hotel 5 minutes from my office that offers Dayuse with a 10am to 4pm time block.  

After 5pm is a no way for me because of what the guy above said about wife and kids.  I can break away for 2 hours in the middle of the day.  None of my providers have had an issue with that.

Not only they had no problem seeing you, but they were happy to have a client in the middle of the day while their friends, dates, bf, etc. were doing their likely 9 to 5 jobs. 

[TallMuscl37]

On 5/27/2024 at 7:40 AM, jmichaeliii said:

That's just crazy.  I'd never jerk around someone like that.  I make the appointment and stick with it and don't make plans like this when I have a potential conflict that could screw it up. The stress of whether you can make it on time kind of ruins the intent of why you are doing this.

I've had to cancel twice in all the times I hired, but I gave plenty of notice and offered either a partial payment or reschedule and never had an issue. 

That client is way too high maintenance in my opinion.

 

Yeah, I let him know I’m not the one for the games and nonsense. I basically asked for a cancel fee, he got bitchy and I told him, enough is enough. I’m tired. I go thru enough as it is, just trying to maintain. I can’t handle all my stuff, on top of someone’s bitchy impatient ways. I’ve just had to cut a lot a nonsense people out of my peripheral, in the city I base out of. Dealing with constant disrespect really takes a toll on the esteem.

Plus the person in question, I know he didn’t really want to pay. I won’t go into detail, but he alluded to wanting to have a “freebie” and I was trying to work with him on an affordable rate instead. However, I’ve said before: most meets under $150/200, aren’t sustainable unless it’s high volume or very frugal survival mode. Pretty soon, I’m considering only offering $500 meets in cities within a 4 hour radius. 

 

On 5/27/2024 at 10:27 AM, marylander1940 said:

Not only they had no problem seeing you, but they were happy to have a client in the middle of the day while their friends, dates, bf, etc. were doing their likely 9 to 5 jobs. 

Now as an alternative: I did meet someone the other day around 2:45 in the afternoon. But, we planned this the day prior and I was already in my “out and about” mode. We also COORDINATED this, he didn’t just throw a time at me. We had to come up which time was best based on what we both could do.

 

[Muscleking]

On 5/24/2024 at 10:24 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

…Considering the fact that it seems 99.9% of booking requests mostly seem to want to meet before 5. 
 

Just the other day I was telling a return client that I could not meet him at 4 p.m., but that I could do 5/5:30 instead. Nope, too late for him. Only thing is, he didn’t tell me that until the day of the booking. However, the night before he said he was off work…but never said he had a company dinner later that evening to be to at 8 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

I ended up telling him that I can no longer be available for weekday bookings before 5 p.m. I feel people think just because I don’t have a conventional 9-5, that I’m readily available in the middle of the day. Which I can be. But from time to time, those are hours that I’m trying to get stuff done before other businesses close. And it was around that time I was at another place of business trying to figure out something serious, which meant I needed a break between that and driving to see him.

I also stated this in another thread; when I’m on hotel time I don’t always have the luxury to meet during the late morning or early afternoon at all. Recently I met with someone and even though it was a great time and it all worked out even with timing, he needed to meet before 2 p.m. So I had to get into the hotel before technical hotel time, but I’ve had times that’s not been possible. 
 

And it seems a lot of the times I wait around for evening bookings: they’re mostly always same day bookings which means: if I have anything planned that evening, it’s going to be cancelled or postponed. 
 

Not trying to put down anyone who needs daytime bookings but, just wondering because it often seems there’s a culture of promoting “business man by day, male escort at night/weekdays” but I find many people don’t book at night or weekends. I feel like between noon and 4 p.m. is “rush hour” in the escort world. But not always on a predictable basis like traffic.

Most of us have families and need to be home as usual to be with wife and kids so me I mostly always book appts during the day or early afternoon, unless I’m in a work trip and can do an appt in the evening but most cases I still book earlier than later. 

[marylander1940]

5 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

 

Now as an alternative: I did meet someone the other day around 2:45 in the afternoon. But, we planned this the day prior and I was already in my “out and about” mode. We also COORDINATED this, he didn’t just throw a time at me. We had to come up which time was best based on what we both could do.

 

Throw a time at you? 

My dentist's secretary tells me what times next week she's available. 

Most escorts get calls for "now" or "ASAP", do them and go back to chilling mode. 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

On 5/27/2024 at 4:37 AM, Jamie21 said:

What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule.

Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans. 

This reality is why I don't mind making a nominal deposit. And I always try to have a day and time in mind before I initiate; negotiation only happens if the provider can't make that time work. 

[TallMuscl37]

20 hours ago, Muscleking said:

Most of us have families and need to be home as usual to be with wife and kids so me I mostly always book appts during the day or early afternoon, unless I’m in a work trip and can do an appt in the evening but most cases I still book earlier than later. 

Sometimes I wonder were the term “lady of the evening” comes from, considering most bookings might be daytime. Maybe years ago, most clients found a way to sneak out and meet at night lol. 

Also, I would say only a limited percent of clients I come across: are married with kids. They may have a husband, but rarely wife and kids. I’ve met a few where the kids are adults and have kids of their own 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

15 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Throw a time at you? 

My dentist's secretary tells me what times next week she's available. 

Most escorts get calls for "now" or "ASAP", do them and go back to chilling mode. 

Right, the business is throwing a time at you. You’re not throwing a time at the business. Which means you have to yield to what they have available. That’s different than calling the secretary and telling what time YOU want. They might try to match you but ultimately it’s up to what their availability is.