Assuming escorts are always hosting…

[DWnyc]

3 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The issue is: people need to be prepared to do both if they want to meet someone for sex. Stop relying on 1 person (namely, the escort) to do it all. Be ready to travel AND be ready to host. There’s $60 hotels in most any city. Not many, and hardly non in some areas but: Some accept cash. I highly doubt it’s going to send a client to the poorhouse, to get a hotel. I know that sounds ironic, considering the topic: but it’s true.

For most of my escort time: Including when I first started, I have ALWAYS offered to host AND travel. I always kept a vehicle for Outcalls and always booked a hotel or had an apartment. I have accommodated above and beyond. 
 

However, I am not Superman who has endless money to spend…especially these days. Hotels are higher, rents are just ridiculous. I am also finding some cities/ states are harder to get approved with escort money than others. In St. Louis for example, (likely due to predjudice towards renters based on the demographics) I have hardly been able to find anywhere that’ll rent without a laundry list of requirements. So, I rent a room from a “partner in biz”. However, it’s not always available to me and I have to coordinate schedules with him. Problem is, even when I’ve had the place to myself and ready to host, people would still lie and ghost, play games and BS. So it’s hampered the thought of wanting to book into a full time place. 
 

So for clients: be flexible. If you can’t host, offer to get the hotel if the escort can’t host either. I’ve had plenty of clients do this, and even clients who were hosting: I had them come to me if for whatever reason, I needed the hotel anyway and it was easier.

Example: In Nashville earlier this month, the client was hosting. However, he was hosting at a big hotel, and I was staying at a friend’s. Both my friend and client had early mornings (client was nice enough to offer me his place, but): which would have involved me having to be up and out by 8 a.m. That’s inconvenient, and I learned my lesson letting someone else I was dating do that to me: and I broke up with him that same morning. So I suggested to the client that I would rather get a room and have him come over. 
 

So yeah, it sounds like it’s not an issue and it should be simple but no: it’s a real issue. Who hosts and who travels. The solution is: every man who wants to have 1 on 1 time needs to be willing to do BOTH. If I can go book a hotel for a client, a client can book a hotel for an escort…if the escort doesn’t have the means to do so. Unless you’re willing to send a deposit. 
 

 

Or just move on the next guy or no guy if it doesn’t work for you -  both providers and clients 

(3 line solution vs … )

 

 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 7/22/2023 at 5:39 AM, DWnyc said:

Or just move on the next guy or no guy if it doesn’t work for you -  both providers and clients 

(3 line solution vs … )

 

 

I suppose, that would be the easy, low effort way to handle it. But I’m believer in, if someone wants to make it happen, they’ll put the effort. I know because, I’ve met guys (mostly non-clients) who couldn’t host. And guess what I did? I picked them up, like a gentleman and brought them back to my place or hotel. And took them back. And the sex…out of this 🌎 . I’m not looking for easy and convenient, I’m looking for those who seem attentive and have the look I want. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[NyGold]

On 7/21/2023 at 3:03 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

The whole point was: based on the message I referenced, he had stated: “I thought you were in a hotel all this time”.  Thought.

Not, “I said”. But rather.: “Thought”. Let that sink in for a minute…and you’ll understand. 
 

Who told this person that? That goes beyond the issue of who can and can’t host…that’s simply making an assumption based on, what? Just because an escort is visiting a city isn’t a guarantee that the person is in a hotel hosting.

For example, earlier this year: I drove from San Diego to Arizona via the I-10. I had LA, Palm Springs, and Phoenix as cities to pass by. Non of those places did I host or have a hotel set up. Why would I? There was nobody booked in advance, and Arizona was my destination. If somebody texted and assumed I was in a hotel: I would be like, who told you that? 

Now if a client was hosting, I would have likely been willing to go to their location instead. 

My website/profile never says that I am here waiting at a hotel for you right now. It says a deposit is needed to book an in-call session. Period. That is likely to allude either it’s by appointment only, or it’s not necessarily readily available unless confirmed. 
 

Like I said, the person mentioned didn’t want to pay deposit to begin with. He was hoping to get on my standby list, which is basically: I see someone if I’m already hosting that day. But that’s if I even have client scheduled that day to begin with. Meanwhile, there was no point in me spending money on a room without anyone on schedule for that day. So I made alternative arrangements.

Bottom line: don’t get upset if clients also make “alternative arrangements” 🥳

[NyGold]

On 7/21/2023 at 2:07 PM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Thanks for having my back, but I’ve already expected anytime I have a discussion: somebody is going to say something that has nothing to contribute to the topic. They simply file as complaints. But, it’s always nice when someone busts their bubble…and reality sets in: 

I love a good reality show. Haven’t found on in here yet 🥳

[Guest]

On 7/26/2023 at 2:15 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

I suppose, that would be the easy, low effort way to handle it. But I’m believer in, if someone wants to make it happen, they’ll put the effort. I know because, I’ve met guys (mostly non-clients) who couldn’t host. And guess what I did? I picked them up, like a gentleman and brought them back to my place or hotel. And took them back. And the sex…out of this 🌎 . I’m not looking for easy and convenient, I’m looking for those who seem attentive and have the look I want. 

I mean sure but this isn't a hook up, its essentially a sale. You're comparing guys who are paying you to have sex to guys you find attractive and want to have sex with. Of course non p4p guys who are hooking up with you are putting in more effort than the guys who are paying you. You're the one trying to convince someone else to give you money. You should expect to do more of the work to make it happen because that is kind of what you are getting paid to do.  If you compare the people you get paid to have sex with to the people you want to have sex with you're going to be disappointed every time. 

Lots of guys on this forum talk about Grindr Fatigue. We're tired of dealing with the whole "do you host or travel" and trying to make plans with guys who flake and can't communicate. You're asking guys to take on a lot of work that they're trying to pay to avoid. 

You're competing with Grindr and Sniffies. A lot of the things you want from your clients are things they are paying to avoid. If I have to deal with all the same crap I normally deal with on Sniffies and Grindr, get my own hotel room and pay some money on top of that, I'm just going to keep the money in my pocket and go back to Grindr and Sniffies. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

7 hours ago, BiDude420 said:

I mean sure but this isn't a hook up, its essentially a sale. You're comparing guys who are paying you to have sex to guys you find attractive and want to have sex with. Of course non p4p guys who are hooking up with you are putting in more effort than the guys who are paying you. You're the one trying to convince someone else to give you money. You should expect to do more of the work to make it happen because that is kind of what you are getting paid to do.  If you compare the people you get paid to have sex with to the people you want to have sex with you're going to be disappointed every time. 

Lots of guys on this forum talk about Grindr Fatigue. We're tired of dealing with the whole "do you host or travel" and trying to make plans with guys who flake and can't communicate. You're asking guys to take on a lot of work that they're trying to pay to avoid. 

You're competing with Grindr and Sniffies. A lot of the things you want from your clients are things they are paying to avoid. If I have to deal with all the same crap I normally deal with on Sniffies and Grindr, get my own hotel room and pay some money on top of that, I'm just going to keep the money in my pocket and go back to Grindr and Sniffies. 

Of course non p4p guys who are hooking up with you are putting in more effort than the guys who are paying you.

Ah, no. Trust me on that. Most non paying guys out here, are putting minimum effort. It’s actually the clients who seem to be showing more effort. Part of why I’ve cut back on dating and hookup apps, is because I got tired of the low effort mentality most of those guys come to the table with. I rather meet someone at a nightclub or thru friends…

 

You're the one trying to convince someone else to give you money. You should expect to do more of the work to make it happen because that is kind of what you are getting paid to do.

Convince someone? You know how this works right? I’m not trying convince anyone, they are actively seeking and I just so happen to be offering. It’s not that kind of sales business. There’s already a need to be fulfilled. 
 

You're competing with Grindr and Sniffies. A lot of the things you want from your clients are things they are paying to avoid. If I have to deal with all the same crap I normally deal with on Sniffies and Grindr, get my own hotel room and pay some money on top of that, I'm just going to keep the money in my pocket and go back to Grindr and Sniffies. 
 

Well, maybe that’s what you need to do then 🤷🏾‍♂️ I mean…at the end of the day, hiring an escort isn’t promised to be the exact accommodations you want. We’re not Hotels.com that you can just call up on a moment’s notice and get a room. Granted: some days I can accommodate like that, but most times…I don’t get people to show up when I am. 
 

I started during a time where one could do well just doing outcalls. I did that in one city for like 2 years. I rarely ever hosted, but I was always getting calls to the best hotels, condos, and homes. Every once in awhile I would host, but it was when I wanted to stay in the city for the night. 
 

That said, the idea that we’re competing with guys from apps: It’s not as it seems. If a person wants to browse and hookup for free, they’re going to do that. If they want to find someone to pay, they’ll do that too. When I look at my clients, and then look at guys on apps (even though I’m aware some clients also use apps), there is no competition. Partly because the concept is different. 
 

Even in small towns where there’s low/no competition on apps or RM: it’s still not any easier. Either they aren’t gay, or the ones that are, generallyy don’t want to pay. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[marylander1940]

Even on Grindr, most people prefer to travel, they can't host for a whole lot of reasons!

"you don't shit where you eat!"

[+ Coolwave35]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Even on Grindr, most people prefer to travel, they can't host for a whole lot of reasons!

"you don't shit where you eat!"

I have a sex room in my house. It’s mainly the only room I’ll host in. My ability to host and be sexually satisfied with mediocrity has led to many lack luster late night Grindr hook ups with aloof hot guys sporting nice dicks.

[marylander1940]

4 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

I have a sex room in my house. It’s mainly the only room I’ll host in. My ability to host and be sexually satisfied with mediocrity has led to many lack luster late night Grindr hook ups with aloof hot guys sporting nice dicks.

and why do you keep telling us about all the bad ones like the kid who wouldn't leave...?

😃

[+ DrownedBoy]

22 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

and why do you keep telling us about all the bad ones like the kid who wouldn't leave...?

😃

So he can keep the good ones to himself 😄

[+ Coolwave35]

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

and why do you keep telling us about all the bad ones like the kid who wouldn't leave...?

😃

I hung out with a forum member who commented that my sex life seemed amazing and I felt it important on balance to share some of the frogs haha 

[NJF]

44 minutes ago, Coolwave35 said:

I hung out with a forum member who commented that my sex life seemed amazing and I felt it important on balance to share some of the frogs haha 

Will the frog turn into a Prince after you kiss it?

[Guest]

18 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I hung out with a forum member who commented that my sex life seemed amazing and I felt it important on balance to share some of the frogs haha 

Unfortunate reality is if you want a good sex life you have to sort through lots of dicks.

[ICTJOCK]

I get asked if I host or if I travel quite frequently.   I'd prefer to host.  Safer and easier,  but any travel is paid by the client.

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, dbar123 said:

For a first meeting it’s nice to do it in a neutral space like a hotel. Nothing kills the fantasy more than going to an escorts’s place and it’s a filthy shithole with dirty dishes stacked up in the sink and an unmade bed.

Edited August 12, 2023 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

3 hours ago, dbar123 said:

For a first meeting it’s nice to do it in a neutral space like a hotel. Nothing kills the fantasy more than going to an escorts’s place and it’s a filthy shithole with dirty dishes stacked up in the sink and an unmade bed.

I would walk away right away

[marylander1940]

8 hours ago, ICTJOCK said:

So how many escorts out there have been asked by a potential client if they (the escort)  would provide location for the booking?      Now it can make sense if the escort is in a hotel and centrally located in a city.    What I have found a bit odd are local clients who make that request.    I usually just tell them that it is their responsibility to provide the location.    I'd prefer not to have clients  (regulars could be an exception)  in my home and they should take the initiative.   Thoughts?   Maybe it is just my own way of thinking and needs adjustment here.

Do you mean hosting or doing an in call?

They get asked that all the time. In most cases incalls are cheaper than outcalls and guys who want discretion prefer to travel to the escort's home, hotel or place where he escorts.

You can always tell them you prefer to do outcalls at least the first encounter to their home or a hotel paid by them. Unless you have roommates I don't know why others would understand your dislike for hosting. If you feel uncomfortable having strangers at your home don't do it but many clients would rather come to you and if you don't have a place they might pick someone else.

 

Edited August 12, 2023 by marylander1940